Exploring Trinitarian Logic

[GodsGrace]

It’s funny that you ask questions we discussed MANY times already.

THEM are trinitarians.

No, I am a Christian who rejects the Trinity. Your god Jesus is an IDOL.

I don't use imoji's much...but your statement is really too funny.
You're a CHRISTian that does not believe JESUS IS GOD.

You still haven't answered Wrangler.
Who IS Jesus?

 

[GodsGrace]

As a godhead, God is reduced to a "thing" instead of a loving person, our Father. Doesn't seem that good to me.

As long as we don't care about the meaning of simple words and logic, we can make the Bible say whatever we want.

1 Cor 8:6,

yet to us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things, and we [are] for him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and we [are] through him.​

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Even the trinity doctrine would not say Jesus is the Father, and yet this verse clearly says the one God is the Father. But again, if we want to abandon the normal meaning of "father" as well as Logic 101, then yes, we could make it say that Jesus is God.

Another Christian that doesn't believe Jesus is God?

We're inundated over here.
How about changing your designation to JEWISH?

That would be decent of you.

 

[David in NJ]

Thankfully I do listen to the Spirit and am led by him...not saying that I always do...we learn to listen and to be led by the Spirit.

I suggest that you do the same David.....instead of getting personal, same applies to me, I still can get personal, when my pride and ego get bruised...it shouldn’t be about us though David...we should be honouring and glorifying God especially on how we are his servants/ representatives.

Praying that we can address each other the way Jesus would have addressed us...we need your guidance and more knowledge of your heart Lord Jesus...please help us glorify your name, when discussing...in Jesus Name..Amen!



Just my thoughts.

Your hypocrisy comes thru again and again

 

[Wrangler]

You still haven't answered Wrangler.
Who IS Jesus?

Huh? Laps. You keep asking questions we’ve discussed MANY times. Jesus is what Scripture teaches he is, no more and no less: Mark 1:1 God’s Anointed, a man chosen by God among the people of Israel, the expected prophet Moses told us about (Duet 18:15-18, John 1:21, 45), t be sacrificed to take away the sins of the world.

 

[Wrangler]

You're a CHRISTian that does not believe JESUS IS GOD.

That’s right. I am a Christian, meaning I follow Christ, which is Christ’s command, “follow me,” who taught us to pray to God the Father, not the Trinity or to him.

 

[GodsGrace]

Huh? Laps. You keep asking questions we’ve discussed MANY times. Jesus is what Scripture teaches he is, no more and no less: Mark 1:1 God’s Anointed, a man chosen by God among the people of Israel (Duet 18:15-18, John 1:23, 45)

That's because, Wrangler, you don't GET what I'm asking.

What I've been stating is that Jesus CANNOT be a man.

A man who thinks He's God is one of the following:

1. A liar
2. A lunatic

I do believe I posted
Mark 14:60-64
60The high priest stood up and came forward and questioned Jesus, saying, “Do You not answer? What is it that these men are testifying against You?”
61But He kept silent and did not answer. Again the high priest was questioning Him, and saying to Him, “Are You the Christ, the Son of the Blessed One?”
62And Jesus said, “I am; and you shall see THE SON OF MAN SITTING AT THE RIGHT HAND OF POWER, and COMING WITH THE CLOUDS OF HEAVEN.”
63Tearing his clothes, the high priest said, “What further need do we have of witnesses?
64“You have heard the blasphemy; how does it seem to you?” And they all condemned Him to be deserving of death.


There you have it Wrangler.
Jesus thought He was God.
He must have been a crazy man.

WHY are you worshipping a crazy man?

 

[GodsGrace]

That’s right. I am a Christian, meaning I follow Christ, which is Christ’s command, “follow me,” who taught us to pray to God the Father, not the Trinity or to him.

But, my dear man, that is NOT what being a Christian means.

I'll repeat once again:

Christianity was around way before you were W.
About 2 thousand years worth.

IF you wish to be defined as Christian then you MUST adhere to CHRISTIAN TEACHINGS...
NOT the teachings of some man...whatever his name may be.

Even @APAK agrees that we should NOT listen to just mere men that were taught by the Apostles from 2 thousand years ago.
IF Jesus is just a man, we shouldn't listen to HIM either.

ALL THE BETTER not to adhere to the teachings of some guy in this present day and age that doesn't even know who Jesus is.

Seems logical to me.

 

[APAK]

As a godhead, God is reduced to a "thing" instead of a loving person, our Father. Doesn't seem that good to me.

As long as we don't care about the meaning of simple words and logic, we can make the Bible say whatever we want.

1 Cor 8:6,

yet to us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things, and we [are] for him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and we [are] through him.​

​

Even the trinity doctrine would not say Jesus is the Father, and yet this verse clearly says the one God is the Father. But again, if we want to abandon the normal meaning of "father" as well as Logic 101, then yes, we could make it say that Jesus is God.

Sight for sore eyes...greetings again

 

[APAK]

But, my dear man, that is NOT what being a Christian means.

I'll repeat once again:

Christianity was around way before you were W.
About 2 thousand years worth.

IF you wish to be defined as Christian then you MUST adhere to CHRISTIAN TEACHINGS...
NOT the teachings of some man...whatever his name may be.

Even @APAK agrees that we should listen to just mere men that were taught by the Apostles from 2 thousand years ago.

ALL THE BETTER not to adhere to the teachings of some guy in this present day and age that doesn't even know who Jesus is.

Seems logical to me.

Please GG I never agreed or said that statement of your own making, nothing of the kind:
Even @APAK agrees that we should listen to just mere men that were taught by the Apostles from 2 thousand years ago.

In fact I do not believe these 'mere' men you have in your own mind were ever seriously taught by the apostles. This is the second time you have misspoken for me. The last time was when one member accused me of being a liar and that I did says those things you actually make up...until I showed him his err...

And I do not agree in what you define as a Christian either, as I have read many of your posts over the years on this subject...that's life

 

[GodsGrace]

Please GG I never agreed or said that statement of your own making, nothing of the kind:
Even @APAK agrees that we should listen to just mere men that were taught by the Apostles from 2 thousand years ago.

Sorry Apak....left out a tiny little word: NOT
I went back and fixed it. I know you didn't say this.

In fact I do not believe these 'mere' men you have in your own mind were ever seriously taught by the apostles.

My mind is not the subject here Apak.
Scholars know about church history and how that history came about.
Even Wikipedia could be helpful to those on these forums that REFUSE to study any church history and so are taken away by incorrect doctrine that is taught by MEN of today...Are THEY inspired?
And yes, we DO know the Apostolic Fathers were taught by the Apostles.

Clement of Rome
St. Ignatius of Antioch
Saint Polycarp

are a few.
It would behoove all of us to study these men and abandon heresies.

This is the second time you have misspoken for me. The last time was when one member accused me of being a liar and that I did says those things you actually make up...until I showed him his err...

And I do not agree in what you define as a Christian either, as I have read many of your posts over the years on this subject...that's life

Well Apak...it's not ME that defines Christianity...
It's Christianity that defines it.

And the men, women and children that went to their death because they believed Jesus was God are insulted by those today who do not even believe the Christian faith and yet write Christian under their avatar.

1 Timothy 4:1
1Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons,

2 Corinthians 11:13-15
12But what I am doing I will continue to do, so that I may cut off opportunity from those who desire an opportunity to be regarded just as we are in the matter about which they are boasting.
13For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ.
14No wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.
15Therefore it is not surprising if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness, whose end will be according to their deeds.


These are the last times A...NOT 2 thousand years ago when the Apostles were teaching others what Jesus had taught them.
TODAY the church is being deceived. And some accept the deception.

How do you think the gospel got around anyway?
Did everything end with Acts??

 

[Scott Downey]

I wish I understood the above SD.
I've tried but it just won't enter into the mind.
I like how you even put in parenthesis who the speaker is.
There's plenty of other stuff, but this is brought up often.

The OT reference from Hebrews chapter 1 is Psalm 45
Of Christ and His church. The scripture in Hebrews 1verse 8, the writer inspired of the Holy Spirit declares psalm 45 is of Christ the Son

Hebrews 1:8 But to the Son He says:, in referring to this Psalm 45, so we know Psalm 45 is about Christ.

Bible Gateway passage: Psalm 45 - New King James Version

The Glories of the Messiah and His Bride - To the Chief Musician. Set to “The Lilies.” A Contemplation of the sons of Korah. A Song of Love. My heart is overflowing with a good theme; I recite my composition concerning the King; My tongue is the pen of a ready writer. You are fairer than the...

www.biblegateway.com

The Glories of the Messiah and His Bride​

To the Chief Musician. Set to [a]“The Lilies.” A [b]Contemplation of the sons of Korah. A Song of Love.​

1 My heart is overflowing with a good theme;
I recite my composition concerning the King;
My tongue is the pen of a [c]ready writer.

2 You are fairer than the sons of men;
Grace is poured upon Your lips;
Therefore God has blessed You forever.

3 [d]Gird Your sword upon Your thigh, O Mighty One,
With Your glory and Your majesty.

4 And in Your majesty ride prosperously because of truth, humility, and righteousness;
And Your right hand shall teach You awesome things.

5 Your arrows are sharp in the heart of the King’s enemies;
The peoples fall under You.

6 Your throne, O God, is forever and ever;
A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom.

7 You love righteousness and hate wickedness;
Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You
With the oil of gladness more than Your companions.

8 All Your garments are scented with myrrh and aloes and cassia,
Out of the ivory palaces, by which they have made You glad.

9 Kings’ daughters are among Your honorable women;
At Your right hand stands the queen in gold from Ophir.

10 Listen, O daughter,
Consider and incline your ear;
Forget your own people also, and your father’s house;

11 So the King will greatly desire your beauty;
Because He is your Lord, worship Him.

12 And the daughter of Tyre will come with a gift;
The rich among the people will seek your favor.

13 The royal daughter is all glorious within the palace;
Her clothing is woven with gold.

14 She shall be brought to the King in robes of many colors;
The virgins, her companions who follow her, shall be brought to You.

15 With gladness and rejoicing they shall be brought;
They shall enter the King’s palace.

16 Instead of Your fathers shall be Your sons,
Whom You shall make princes in all the earth.

17 I will make Your name to be remembered in all generations;
Therefore the people shall praise You forever and ever.

 

[Pierac]

Wonderfully composed posts....
nice combination of text sizing and coloring...very interesting I'm sure.

Just want to ask:
HOW do YOU know HOW Christians were baptized in the early church?

I don't know? Perhaps it's because of the Acts of the Apostles and the early Church... Taught such things!!!

Let's review how the apostles baptized!

Act 2:38 Peter said to them, "Repent, and each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Act 8:16 For He had not yet fallen upon any of them; they had simply been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

Act 10:48 And he ordered them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then they asked him to stay on for a few days.

How do you not know this?

 

[Wrangler]

I don't know? Perhaps it's because of the Acts of the Apostles and the early Church... Taught such things!!!

Let's review how the apostles baptized!

Act 2:38 Peter said to them, "Repent, and each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Act 8:16 For He had not yet fallen upon any of them; they had simply been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

Act 10:48 And he ordered them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then they asked him to stay on for a few days.

How do you not know this?

Showing once again, trinitarians ignore the actual explicit word of God repeated that contradicts their doctrine.

 

[Pierac]

Why was Jesus the first Born to be resurrected?..in your opinion.

How could he have been the first Born to be resurrected @Wrangler ?

Lots of thoughts going through my mind at the moment, so I thought I’d explore them with you.

We are to seek God with our heart...my friend...for there is where we will find him...

Because Jesus is the last ADAM

1Co 15:45 So also it is written, "The first MAN, Adam, BECAME A LIVING SOUL." The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.

The first Adam was not rasied from the dead...

Act 2:32 "This Jesus God raised up again, to which we are all witnesses.

Act 3:26 "For you first, God raised up His Servant and sent Him to bless you by turning every one of you from your wicked ways."

The last Adam... God's servant!!!


How do you not know these things?

 

[APAK]

Sorry Apak....left out a tiny little word: NOT
I went back and fixed it. I know you didn't say this.

My mind is not the subject here Apak.
Scholars know about church history and how that history came about.
Even Wikipedia could be helpful to those on these forums that REFUSE to study any church history and so are taken away by incorrect doctrine that is taught by MEN of today...Are THEY inspired?
And yes, we DO know the Apostolic Fathers were taught by the Apostles.

Clement of Rome
St. Ignatius of Antioch
Saint Polycarp

are a few.
It would behoove all of us to study these men and abandon heresies.

Well Apak...it's not ME that defines Christianity...
It's Christianity that defines it.

And the men, women and children that went to their death because they believed Jesus was God are insulted by those today who do not even believe the Christian faith and yet write Christian under their avatar.

1 Timothy 4:1
1Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons,

2 Corinthians 11:13-15
12But what I am doing I will continue to do, so that I may cut off opportunity from those who desire an opportunity to be regarded just as we are in the matter about which they are boasting.
13For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ.
14No wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.
15Therefore it is not surprising if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness, whose end will be according to their deeds.


These are the last times A...NOT 2 thousand years ago when the Apostles were teaching others what Jesus had taught them.
TODAY the church is being deceived. And some accept the deception.

How do you think the gospel got around anyway?
Did everything end with Acts??

"Well Apak...it's not ME that defines Christianity...
It's Christianity that defines it."

this statement is profound GG and in not a great way

 

[Rich R]

Another Christian that doesn't believe Jesus is God?

We're inundated over here.
How about changing your designation to JEWISH?

That would be decent of you.

Do you have any comments on the actual content of my post?

For example, given that 1 Cor 8:6 says only the Father is God, would you say that Jesus is the Father? Or does it not actually say that the only God is the Father? It'd be nice to have a dialogue with you that isn't just tacit accusations.

 

[Ritajanice]

Because Jesus is the last ADAM

1Co 15:45 So also it is written, "The first MAN, Adam, BECAME A LIVING SOUL." The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.

The first Adam was not rasied from the dead...

Act 2:32 "This Jesus God raised up again, to which we are all witnesses.

You witnessed God raising Jesus up did you?

The only way I could possibly know that Jesus was raised in his glorified body to heaven.

Would be by whose testimony?

You seem to post a lot of scripture..we must also understand spiritual matters?

We communicate with God via our spirit ...as we are “ Born Of The Spirit “ ...Spirit gives birth to spirit

Act 3:26 "For you first, God raised up His Servant and sent Him to bless you by turning every one of you from your wicked ways."

The last Adam... God's servant!!!

Context
The Resurrection Body
…44It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. 45 So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living being;” the last Adam a life-givingspirit. 46The spiritual, however, was not first, but the natural, and then the spiritual

How do you not know these things?

How do I know “ not”what things?

Why would I need to know such things?

Salvation is not based on believing or not believing the trinity?

I speak from the heart not from the emotions....for it’s from the heart/ spirit that one knows God?

After all the Holy Spirit indwells our spirit as it’s Born Again...therefore only the Spirit can lead me through scripture and bring it to my understanding.....plus it’s all in his timing..to bring us to Gods truth.

There is NO truth in us....that’s why I don’t believe the trinity can be proven either way...everyone here are just posting opinions , interpretations..including me......and yourself...you are posting your beliefs .....which you seen to be trying to force onto me /others...why do you think that you have to do this?

Let’s face it we’ve all done it..only some continue to “ force” others to believe what they believe?

Did Jesus force his belief onto others?..I see nowhere in scripture that he did?

I will probably spend most of my day seeking God out from within my heart, always asking the Holy Spirit questions...I get plenty of answers from him as well...which I mostly check out with his word.
How would you know that Jesus was raised from the dead...it takes much more than reading that Jesus was raised from the dead..
We must know Jesus in our heart/ spirit....that’s when our spirit is Born Again/ reborn in spirit?



The last Adam was God’s Son...that makes him partly divine....he was already chosen / in God before the foundation of the world....he came out of God....?

Jesus plus the Holy Spirit are from the same essence of God?

Who testifies Of Jesus...just the Bible?

Here is another commentary for you to read.

Together, they form the Holy Trinity, sharing the same essence. This means they share the same divine nature but have different roles and relationships within the Godhead. Though they have different functions, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit work in perfect harmony, accomplishing God's divine purposes

RJ...says...I’m starting to see that they most definitely share the same nature as God...as in , that the Holy Spirit and Jesus nature are both divine....Jesus had no ordinary human nature...if he had, then it would have been a sin nature.....therefore he couldn’t possibly have atoned for our sins..his nature had to be divine...that’s my belief and thoughts..not forcing it onto anyone....but, it’s just as valid as anyone else’s opinion / interpretation of scripture.

Also apparently the Holy Spirit is also that of Jesus Spirit.....what do you make of that?

By the way, I’m learning ...have you reached a point where like Jesus you are all knowing in spirit?

God is a Living Spirit, we must be Born Of The Spirit to communicate with him...that can take years and years to understand, as we were taught by the world....now as a Born Again we are taught Spirit language...hope that makes sense, if it doesn’t ask and I will try and explain such things.

1 Corinthians 2:10-16​

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King James Version​

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10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? but we have the mind of Christ.

 

[Ritajanice]

Your hypocrisy comes thru again

We are all hypocrites at times David..crikey ,it wasn’t so long ago that you were sending me pms telling me how much you loved me as a Sister in Christ, now I get the above..

We shouldn’t turn on each other because we don’t agree, that’s what you seem to have done to me, we all show our true colours “eventually “ David....none of us can hide our true maturity in Christ...

I used to love arguing , I also used to get nasty if others didn’t agree with me.......as it it’s all about “ self”.....what does self consist of David? .as we grow closer to God, continue to mature in his Son,he shows us “ if we’re listening” how much he hates arguing...... ..we are to respect the belief of another....not turn on them because they disagree with what we believe, that’s a “ conditional love”...God Loves me unconditionally.......that’s true Love, there is none on the planet like Gods Love, when we’re secure in that Love....we can love not only ourselves, we can love others too.......let’s move on from “ self” ..bring Glory to Jesus on how we discuss....my heart truly wants to please God.....

Check out the scripture below....let it penetrate deep within your / our hearts.....I’m not here to argue David, I’m here to grow “ spiritually “ in Christ....less of me...more of Jesus shining through from within my heart....may you know more and more of Jesus Love deep within your heart/ spirit....let’s pray that over each other my friend...

and again

2 Timothy 2:23-26 New Century Version (NCV) And a servant of the Lord must not quarrel but must be kind to everyone, a good teacher, and patient. The Lord's servant must gently teach those who disagree. Then maybe God will let them change their minds so they can accept the truth.

Edit to add, the thing about us humans is..we aren’t consistent in Christ in our behaviour...

Wouldn’t it be be wonderful if we were..we probably never will be this side of heaven.....that old man in us, doesn’t want to die without a fight.....this is when the full armour of God is coming into my thoughts..

The Spirit is also whispering in my ear...” Remember there is NOTHING that you can do in your own strength....how true is that?....we are being conformed into the image of Jesus...i think it’s the sanctification process ...

David your Son has been on my heart a lot lately, I do hope everything medically is being sorted out for him..it’s awful when we don’t know what’s going on, I can relate as this AF that I have suffered with, needs to be got to the bottom of.i have a blood test today....regarding my serum calcium level in my blood......walk in faith is not easy at times is it?

 

[Ritajanice]

And all his disciples worshipped Christ too.
Along with others.

This is the part that I have difficulty understanding in my heart/ spirit...my heart doesn’t want to worship Jesus, it only wants to to thank him for giving his life for me/ us, so that is our way back to God, by his death and resurrection.

The only one that I can worship from within my heart..is my / our Father God..only he is worthy of worship.

Jesus is worthy of praising...I can’t worship him...only God is to be worshipped..and no other.

Not saying I’m right, does scripture say to worship Jesus with all our heart , mind and soul?

I don’t think that Jesus is talking about himself below ,does it?



Short commentary.

For we “shall worship the Lord your God and him only shall you serve” (Matthew 4:10). In addition, according to John 14:6, true worship is directed through Jesus. Keeping our worship narrow is important because we must worship “in truth,” and the truth is narrow.

RJ...asks..we can’t serve two masters can we?

Who do we serve?...I would say God...we represent Jesus..just my thoughts.

Jesus also served his Father God...he served no other...I’m getting a lot at the moment coming into my mind...so I’m posting it..haven’t time to check it out with scripture...off to get my blood test...to see if my serum calcium in blood has lowered with the new medication I’m on...catch you all later.

 

[GodsGrace]

The OT reference from Hebrews chapter 1 is Psalm 45
Of Christ and His church. The scripture in Hebrews 1verse 8, the writer inspired of the Holy Spirit declares psalm 45 is of Christ the Son

Hebrews 1:8 But to the Son He says:, in referring to this Psalm 45, so we know Psalm 45 is about Christ.

Bible Gateway passage: Psalm 45 - New King James Version

The Glories of the Messiah and His Bride - To the Chief Musician. Set to “The Lilies.” A Contemplation of the sons of Korah. A Song of Love. My heart is overflowing with a good theme; I recite my composition concerning the King; My tongue is the pen of a ready writer. You are fairer than the...

www.biblegateway.com

The Glories of the Messiah and His Bride​

To the Chief Musician. Set to [a]“The Lilies.” A [b]Contemplation of the sons of Korah. A Song of Love.​

1 My heart is overflowing with a good theme;
I recite my composition concerning the King;
My tongue is the pen of a [c]ready writer.

2 You are fairer than the sons of men;
Grace is poured upon Your lips;
Therefore God has blessed You forever.

3 [d]Gird Your sword upon Your thigh, O Mighty One,
With Your glory and Your majesty.

4 And in Your majesty ride prosperously because of truth, humility, and righteousness;
And Your right hand shall teach You awesome things.

5 Your arrows are sharp in the heart of the King’s enemies;
The peoples fall under You.

6 Your throne, O God, is forever and ever;
A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom.

7 You love righteousness and hate wickedness;
Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You
With the oil of gladness more than Your companions.

8 All Your garments are scented with myrrh and aloes and cassia,
Out of the ivory palaces, by which they have made You glad.

9 Kings’ daughters are among Your honorable women;
At Your right hand stands the queen in gold from Ophir.

10 Listen, O daughter,
Consider and incline your ear;
Forget your own people also, and your father’s house;

11 So the King will greatly desire your beauty;
Because He is your Lord, worship Him.

12 And the daughter of Tyre will come with a gift;
The rich among the people will seek your favor.

13 The royal daughter is all glorious within the palace;
Her clothing is woven with gold.

14 She shall be brought to the King in robes of many colors;
The virgins, her companions who follow her, shall be brought to You.

15 With gladness and rejoicing they shall be brought;
They shall enter the King’s palace.

16 Instead of Your fathers shall be Your sons,
Whom You shall make princes in all the earth.

17 I will make Your name to be remembered in all generations;
Therefore the people shall praise You forever and ever.

I got this Scott and will go through it when I have some time to spend here.
Maybe we'll do a little bible study together?
I really appreciate it!
Later