Exploring Trinitarian Logic

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GodsGrace

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She, goes by the word of God...please address my posts instead of doing what you have picked me up on many times...” she has a name”?

Address the poster..remember?..not to slyly go behind their backs.please practice what you have preached many times to me and other members on this forum.
Did I mention your name?
But...if the shoe fits,,,wear it.
 

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Did I mention your name?
But...if the shoe fits,,,wear it.
Discuss my posts.

Just pointing out your rudeness..say the posters name, “ me” instead of talking behind their back..that’s what you used to say to me, when I used to at one time refer to you as “ she”./ her...

No hypocrisy coming from me..
 

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Discuss my posts.

Just pointing out your rudeness..say the posters name, “ me” instead of talking behind their back..that’s what you used to say to me, when I used to at one time refer to you as “ she”...

No hypocrisy coming from me..
Saying that you do not understand the Trinity WHICH I DID NOT EVEN DO....

Is NOT
attacking your character.
You should find out what it means to attack a person's character.

This is why I don't post to you.
You're still maturing and are just too sensitive for me to deal with.
I leave you to others who can handle you.
 
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Ritajanice

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Right.
Except for the indoctrinated.
They can't think for themselves anymore.
Guess I'll be scolded again by @Ritajanice ...
Even though I mean quite a few on this thread.
Indoctrinated...in your opinion...I can live with that..once again I wish you would address my posts and not keep giving your opinions..then trying to provoke a reaction from myself and other members...like @David in NJ also.

I’m not scolding you..I’m pointing out your hypocrisy....” practice what you preach”.
 
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Ritajanice

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Saying that you do not understand the Trinity WHICH I DID NOT EVEN DO....

Is NOT
attacking your character.
You should find out what it means to attack a person's character.

This is why I don't post to you.
You're still maturing and are just too sensitive for me to deal with.
I leave you to others who can handle you.
Once again..an opinion that is just trying to provoke an reaction...you are so predictable...did you say, “ maturing “ LOL.
 

Ritajanice

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@Wrangler ..I know you won’t agree with this...so far...I do believe that Jesus was partly divine.....I just can’t get my head around that he was “ fully God”...makes no sense..

Remember, I’m just exploring all the possibilities....still as far as I can see nothing concrete...I’m only concrete in believing that Jesus was partly divine, only because he was Born by The Spirit intervention...

There is no concrete evidence that he was fully God....I guess I will never know...I’ll just keep on searching with my heart..lol.
 

David in NJ

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Again please pick me up on my errors....?

Instead of trying to provoke a reaction @David in NJ .

I am exploring the trinity...you have not proven imo that Jesus is fully God..



No more than the non trinitarian has proven that Jesus was fully human.

Thankfully salvation has got nothing to do with , wether we believe in the trinity or not..my spirit is Born Again, that’s all I need to know..

My heart/ spirit knows God, by His Living testimony the Living Holy Spirit...who testifies that truth to my spirit all day every day..Praise God for supernatural divine heart revelation!..in Jesus Name...Amen!
I am exploring the trinity...you have not proven imo that Jesus is fully God..

The Holy Spirit has proven it in the Holy Scriptures beginning in Genesis = both Spoken and Visual = Same in the Gospel

All that is required to know is to do the following:

a.) Believe in God by believing every word that HE has spoken
b.) Pray to the Lord Jesus Christ for the Holy Spirit
c.) Wait on the Lord for the understanding AND while you do, do not doubt
 

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Indoctrinated...in your opinion...I can live with that..once again I wish you would address my posts and not keep giving your opinions..then trying to provoke a reaction from myself and other members...like @David in NJ also.

I’m not scolding you..I’m pointing out your hypocrisy....” practice what you preach”.
Where did this "reaction" of yours come from???
 

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The Holy Spirit has proven it in the Holy Scriptures beginning in Genesis = both Spoken and Visual = Same in the Gospel
Nowhere has it been proven in scripture that Jesus was fully God...that’s how you and a few others have interpreted the word to mean..doesn’t make it Gods truth.
All that is required is know is to do the following:

a.) Believe in God by believing every word that HE has spoken
Open to interpretation, as we can see on this thread....
b.) Pray to the Lord Jesus Christ for the Holy Spirit
c.) Wait on the Lord for the understanding AND while you do, do not doubt
There is nowhere in scripture where God says that Jesus is fully God...all scripture was written under the influence of the Spirit.

I believe that Jesus was partly divine, I don’t believe he was fully God as a sinner carried his baby, even though Mary was a virgin, she was still a sinner, God could not grow in a sinners womb.

God can’t go anywhere near sin, he only indwells a believer...because he has forgiven their sin and they have been clothed in the righteousness of Christ.
Like you I have posted my opinion, thoughts on the matter...nothing concrete as in evidence..
 

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@Wrangler ..I know you won’t agree with this...so far...I do believe that Jesus was partly divine
On the contrary. Scripture tells us repeatedly that Jesus is divine, meaning OF God or FROM God - son, servant, word, lamb, priest, apostle, witness, etc.

Angels are divine. Prophets are divine. The claim of the trinity is not that he is divine but that he is THE deity of the Bible.
 

David in NJ

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Please discuss the topic in hand?

I’m not into arguing in the flesh.
lol - yes you are and this is what you are doing..........therefore a breakdown of communication and an impasse

the mind can think either earthly or in Truth

the only Truth that exists is the ONE Who is = "IAM the WAY the TRUTH and the LIFE"
 

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On the contrary. Scripture tells us repeatedly that Jesus is divine, meaning OF God or FROM God - son, servant, word, lamb, priest, apostle, witness, etc.

Angels are divine. Prophets are divine. The claim of the trinity is not that he is divine but that he is THE deity of the Bible.
Ah, great, you do agree..excellent....not that you have to agree, at least we agree on that.
 

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lol - yes you are and this is what you are doing..........therefore a breakdown of communication and an impasse
David, please show me where I am arguing in the old man/ flesh?

There is no break down of communication...just different opinions/ interpretation of scripture.
the mind can think either earthly or in Truth
Yes David...whose to say who is thinking earthly or in truth?

I was talking about your childish name calling posts..David..where imo you try and provoke a reaction...I’ve been there David it’s childish and immature...because others don’t agree with you regarding the trinity...you start getting personal.....I’ve done the same....
the only Truth that exists is the ONE Who is = "IAM the WAY the TRUTH and the LIFE"
Correct..but that isn’t saying that Jesus was fully God...God spoke through Jesus...he was his Son just as scripture says...partly divine..not fully God...as far as I can see..
 

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David, please show me where I am arguing in the old man/ flesh?

There is no break down of communication...just different opinions/ interpretation of scripture.

Yes David...whose to say who is thinking earthly or in truth?

I was talking about your childish name calling posts..David..where imo you try and provoke a reaction...I’ve been there David it’s childish and immature...because others don’t agree with you regarding the trinity...you start getting personal.....I’ve done the same....

Correct..but that isn’t saying that Jesus was fully God...God spoke through Jesus...he was his Son just as scripture says...partly divine..not fully God...as far as I can see..
"IAM the WAY the TRUTH and the LIFE"

Meditate on HIM
 

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Scripture tells us repeatedly that Jesus is divine, meaning OF God or FROM God - son, servant
Yes, this too is my understanding of scripture.

We too are servants of God who “ represent “ the Father, as I’ve already explained, God can also use us to get his message across to others, if that makes sense..

We are not God, we house the Holy Spirit, who indwells our spirit, we are under his supervision and authority so to speak...yet, he is far from a forceful God, if we decide to go off on our own tangent he won’t stop us...

If he has a message for us, I do believe that message will penetrate our heart in his timing...that’s my belief and thoughts..once again nothing concrete.
 
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"IAM the WAY the TRUTH and the LIFE"

Meditate on HIM
Thankfully I do listen to the Spirit and am led by him...not saying that I always do...we learn to listen and to be led by the Spirit.

I suggest that you do the same David.....instead of getting personal, same applies to me, I still can get personal, when my pride and ego get bruised...it shouldn’t be about us though David...we should be honouring and glorifying God especially on how we are his servants/ representatives.

Praying that we can address each other the way Jesus would have addressed us...we need your guidance and more knowledge of your heart Lord Jesus...please help us glorify your name, when discussing...in Jesus Name..Amen!



Just my thoughts.
 

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"IAM the WAY the TRUTH and the LIFE"

Meditate on HIM
Just came back to this.

Yes, Jesus was preaching that he was the way and the truth...all that was coming out from his mouth came from the Father....therefore follow him as he is the only way and the truth...as he was God’s anointed Son to spread his Father’s truth.....I and the Father are one....as in united as one in Spirit....complete and utter harmony with his Father God Spirit....

He was the spotless Lamb that the Father used to get his will done on earth, Jesus did everything that the Father told him to do...he was led by the Spirit Of God....Jesus was impeccable in everything that he did because he was in complete harmony with his Father’s Spirit.....an amazing act of obedience and love for his Father, not only his Father for us also, that was/ is our only way back to our Spirit Father God, by the death and resurrection of Jesus..

Lord you are so worthy of our Praise!!!

Thank you that you died such an horrific death so that we can be saved from eternal damnation....I know I am unworthy...yet you now see me as worthy and have clothed us in the righteousness of your beloved Son, who now sits with you upon your throne...there he will reign forever and ever..
My thoughts once again..
 
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