Revelation 13 - the sea and the earth beast

[Douggg]

You need to get off this 5 stages thing Douggg. You are taking the beast of the sea and beast of the earth and rolling them into a 5 stage beast. You need to figure out who the beast of the sea is in scripture..........such as the little horn and who the two horned beast of the earth is. Don't roll them together into one.

The beast-king in Revelation 13:3 is the mortally wounded, but healed head (of the 7 heads). The ten horns on the beast out of the sea in Revelation 13:1 are the ten kings that will rule with the beast-king for 42 months (metaphorically one hour).

The beast out of the earth in Revelation 13:11 is the false prophet. A separate person.

I am not rolling the beast-king together with the false prophet on my chart or verbally. They are two separate persons. That will be cast alive into the lake of fire at Jesus's return in Revelation 19:20.

The little horn will eventually become the beast-king. That's what is on my chart.

 

[Douggg]

The beast of the earth has two horns which are the man of sin and the false prophet.

No, the beast out of the earth in Revelation 13:11 is one person, the false prophet.

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The two arch villains (humans) of the end times will be...

1. the Revelation 13:11, beast out of the earth - the false prophet.

2. the Revelation 13:3 mortally wounded, but healed head - the beast-king

a. first, as the little horn
b. then, as the little horn who becomes the prince that shall come
c. then, as the little horn who becomes the Antichrist
d. then, as the little horn who becomes the revealed man of sin
e. then, as the little horn who becomes the beast-king

 

[The Light]

No, the beast out of the earth in Revelation 13:11 is one person, the false prophet.

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The two arch villains (humans) of the end times will be...

1. the Revelation 13:11, beast out of the earth - the false prophet.

2. the Revelation 13:3 mortally wounded, but healed head - the beast-king

Maybe you could explain how the beast of the earth is killed before the great tribulation as we see in Daniel 11 and 12 and yet be cast alive into the lake of fire in Revelation 19.

Daniel 11
44 But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him: therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy, and utterly to make away many.

45 And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.

Daniel 12
1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

a. first, as the little horn

This is the beast of the sea who was and is not and will come again. He was the 1st king and will be the eighth king as he is the eighth and is of the seven.

Revelation 17
8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

b. then, as the little horn who becomes the prince that shall come

This is one of the horns of the beast of the earth........the rider on the white horse.........the prince who becomes the seventh king. This is not the little horn.

c. then, as the little horn who becomes the Antichrist

Both the rider on the white horse and the little horn are Antichrists.

d. then, as the little horn who becomes the revealed man of sin

I believe the man of sin is the rider on the white horse that comes to his end before the great tribulation.

e. then, as the little horn who becomes the beast-king

The little horn is Nimrod........the king of Babylon, the Assyrian, the eighth king who is of the seven, who comes out of the pit.

 

[Douggg]

Maybe you could explain how the beast of the earth is killed before the great tribulation as we see in Daniel 11 and 12 and yet be cast alive into the lake of fire in Revelation 19.

Daniel 11
44 But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him: therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy, and utterly to make away many.

45 And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.

Daniel 12
1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

Daniel 11:44-45 is not referring to the beast out of the earth - false prophet. Instead, the verses are referring to the mortally wounded but healed head beast-king of Revelation 13:3.

As the beast-king, he will meet his end while on the temple mount. That when Jesus returns, and stands on the Mt. of Olives in Zechariah 14, the beast-king and the false prophet will both be cast in to the lake of fire, at that time (my graphic below).

Then in Daniel 12, the angel (of Daniel 10:44) begins talking about those final days when the beast-king will meet his end and the impact on Daniel's people and the nation of Israel.

 

[Douggg]

Both the rider on the white horse and the little horn are Antichrists.

The rider on the white horse given a crown is the little horn as the Antichrist.

The little horn is Nimrod........the king of Babylon, the Assyrian, the eighth king who is of the seven, who comes out of the pit.

Not Nimrod. The beast that comes out of the bottomless pit will be the spirit of the garden of Eden serpent beast - which that spirit will possess the beast-king at the time the beast-king recovers from the mortal wound.

I think you may be getting your Nimrod, as the Assyrian, scenario from Michah 5:5-6, yes ?

There will be some individual who fulfills the Assyrian role from that part of the world known as the land of Nimrod, biblically speaking.
I think Nimrod is supposed to have established Nineveh and Babel, right? So the Iran, Iraq, area.

That person will be one of the leaders in the Gog/Magog alliance. The Gog/Magog event that precedes the 7 years.

The Assyrian will be destroyed by a group of Jews in the Gog/Magog event.

Michah 5:5 And this man shall be the peace, when the Assyrian shall come into our land: and when he shall tread in our palaces, then shall we raise against him seven shepherds, and eight principal men.

6 And they shall waste the land of Assyria with the sword, and the land of Nimrod in the entrances thereof: thus shall he deliver us from the Assyrian, when he cometh into our land, and when he treadeth within our borders.

Christ will supernaturally destroy the armies making up the Gog/Magog alliance of nations.

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[The Light]

The rider on the white horse given a crown is the little horn as the Antichrist.

No. The rider on the white is the 7th king. Nimrod is the 1st and eighth king.

Not Nimrod. The beast that comes out of the bottomless pit will be the spirit of the garden of Eden serpent beast -

The spirit of the Garden was not one of the 5 kings that are fallen.

which that spirit will possess the beast-king at the time the beast-king recovers from the mortal wound.

The deadly wound of the sword has to occur BEFORE the 6th king.........that is fact.

Revelation 17
10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

I think you may be getting your Nimrod, as the Assyrian, scenario from Michah 5:5-6, yes ?

That just a confirmation of this. I would be very surprised if you understood these verses.

Isaiah 14
4 That thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon, and say, How hath the oppressor ceased! the golden city ceased!

5 The Lord hath broken the staff of the wicked, and the sceptre of the rulers.

6 He who smote the people in wrath with a continual stroke, he that ruled the nations in anger, is persecuted, and none hindereth.

7 The whole earth is at rest, and is quiet: they break forth into singing.

8 Yea, the fir trees rejoice at thee, and the cedars of Lebanon, saying, Since thou art laid down, no feller is come up against us.

There will be some individual who fulfills the Assyrian role from that part of the world known as the land of Nimrod, biblically speaking.
I think Nimrod is supposed to have established Nineveh and Babel, right? So the Iran, Iraq, area.

Yes.

That person will be one of the leaders in the Gog/Magog alliance. The Gog/Magog event that precedes the 7 years.
The Assyrian will be destroyed by a group of Jews in the Gog/Magog event.

Gog Magog DOES NOT HAPPEN UNTIL AFTER THE 1000 YEARS.

Revelation 20
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

Christ will supernaturally destroy the armies making up the Gog/Magog alliance of nations.

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After the 1000 years..........when the city of Jerusalem is unwalled. There is no time for GOG MAGOG to happen before the 7 years.

 

[The Light]

Daniel 11:44-45 is not referring to the beast out of the earth - false prophet. Instead, the verses are referring to the mortally wounded but healed head beast-king of Revelation 13:3.

As the beast-king, he will meet his end while on the temple mount. That when Jesus returns, and stands on the Mt. of Olives in Zechariah 14, the beast-king and the false prophet will both be cast in to the lake of fire, at that time (my graphic below).

Then in Daniel 12, the angel (of Daniel 10:44) begins talking about those final days when the beast-king will meet his end and the impact on Daniel's people and the nation of Israel.

How does this beast die before the great tribulation as the quoted verses show?

 

[TribulationSigns]

What chart ? I never claimed that the dragon - Satan - got into the dead body of the antichrist and resurrected it.

Really? Does this picture looks fimiliar to you? No wait, it was you who created it. "Spirit of the serpent enters his soul" is not possessed?Is not incarnated? LOL!!!!

Your false doctrine believes this.

You get so mixed up on so many things - I don't have time to correct it all.

So far, you haven't corrected anything!

 

[Douggg]

Really? Does this picture looks fimiliar to you? No wait, it was you who created it. "Spirit of the serpent enters his soul" is not possessed?Is not incarnated? LOL!!!!

Your false doctrine believes this.

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So far, you haven't corrected anything!

My graphic does not show that the dragon - Satan - got into the dead body of the antichrist and resurrected it.

God is the one who cast the person's soul out of hell in Isaiah 14:18-20. And as his soul is returning to his body in the casket, the spirit of the garden of Eden serpent beast ascends out of the bottomless pit and enters his soul, possessing the beast person.

 

[TribulationSigns]

My graphic does not show that the dragon - Satan - got into the dead body of the antichrist and resurrected it.

God is the one who cast the person's soul out of hell in Isaiah 14:18-20. And as his soul is returning to his body in the casket, the spirit of the garden of Eden serpent beast ascends out of the bottomless pit and enters his soul, possessing the beast person.

LOL!!!!!! This is a really poor explanation! None of this is biblically true at all!

So you are saying that God cast a person's soul into hell. And then the beast's spirit has the power to bring that soul out and possess it before putting it back into the dead person and woke up? LOL

Purely speculation!