The Rapture is About to Happen, Here's Why--Rapture?

[Scott Downey]

regarding this mourning here
7 Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen.

I know a guy who preach(ed) that the entire world had to be evangelized, and all become Christians before the Lord Jesus would return.
And His return would be a time of wonderful rejoicing for all people. And there was no coming sudden destruction. And the reason Christ had not yet returned is the church people were lazy about converting the whole world to Christianity.

I should have shown him verse 7!

 

[Scott Downey]

Luke 18

6 Then the Lord said, “Hear what the unjust judge said.
7 And shall God not avenge His own elect who cry out day and night to Him, though He bears long with them?

8 I tell you that He will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless, when the Son of Man comes, will He really find faith on the earth?”

But of course you know, he said he was right and I was wrong and that is all folks that can be said.

 

[Galgal]

There is nothing in scripture that says Christ returns to the Jewish rebuilt temple on the earth when He returns, except perhaps to destroy it.
And He can destroy the entire world without showing up any particular place, like walking on it.

The Bible clearly states that Jesus Christ will return to the Temple described by Ezekiel:

Then said the Lord unto me; This gate shall be shut, it shall not be opened, and no man shall enter in by it; because the Lord, the God of Israel, hath entered in by it, therefore it shall be shut. (Ezekiel 44:2)

In this Temple will be the throne of God:

And he said unto me, Son of man, the place of my throne, and the place of the soles of my feet, where I will dwell in the midst of the children of Israel for ever, and my holy name, shall the house of Israel no more defile, neither they, nor their kings, by their whoredom, nor by the carcases of their kings in their high places. (Ezekiel 43:7)

the place of my throne - It is to this throne of God that the man child, Israel, will be caught up:

And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. (Revelation 12:5)

 

[David in NJ]

The False Jesus sits in the temple of the living God, posing as God. The False Spirit in Christianity.

The Real Jesus cannot be an opponent of the Third Temple, because the prophecy about the Temple is the word of God.

The False Messiah = there will be no false Jesus = only a False messiah = SEE the difference???

YHWH YAHshua says: "false teachers, false prophets and false christs/messiahs

YHWH YAHshua is the 3rd Temple = the Temple of Elohim that is being Built without earthbound materials and human hands

Why do you reject the Holy Scriptures and sell-out the Temple of His Body for a empty man-made building???

 

[David in NJ]

Humility is needed to take an honest look at the other side of the issues. It is not giving the whole council of The Lord if we are one doctrine Christians, staunch, dogmatic, stiff-necked. We must do as much research on pro as well as con to properly make your opinion mean much. And that, with lot's of prayer for understanding.

If one ignores the full reason for the belief for one side and not the other? Just look at the fallout if your side is wrong. Have you not thought of these things @GISMYS_7 S ?

What if, all you do is give false comfort to the weak in spirit and unlearned? ALL whom you taught this doctrine will see that The Lord has actually NOT come back before "all these things" and imho, in droves go to get "the Mark". Follow the evil rule into damnation because 'you're" prediction did not come to pass. Would it not be better to strengthen our faith as we are told so very many times, especially concerning this doctrine? 'Be strong! Be of good courage'...

Romans 8:35
"Who will separate us from the love of Christ? Will tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword"

Love this one:

Proverbs 24:10
"If you are slack in the day of distress,
Your strength is limited."

Acts 14:22
"strengthening the souls of the disciples, encouraging them to continue in the faith, and saying, “Through many tribulations we must enter the kingdom of God.”

Philippians 3:14
"I press on toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus."

If at least you could say that you are not "certain" as a true prophet would be for sure certain and be able to give scripture for both sides, unless you honestly did research the other side...s. Can't you accept that both sides have their scriptural reason?. Many used to be pro, including myself for a very long time...but no longer believe i yet, I'll not try to teach unless I've studied deeply both pro and con.
God bless you brother

I was 'trained' under pre-trib for years - UNTIL - i knelt before our Lord Jesus Christ and prayed for Truth according to His words.

Anyone can examine the scriptures that many of us have posted that - point blank - refute pre-trib.

All we are asking is this: If God said 'pre-trib' , then PLEASE show us where HE said that!!!

i even offered(still do) $1,000.00 for anyone to post a CLEAR scripture that proclaims a separate 'pre-trib' rapture for the Body of Christ which MUST occur before the Antichrist.
It has been 3 years and counting and no one has been able to provide a single verse - on 3 forums!!!

the LORD Jesus Christ, the OT Prophets, Apostle Paul; and Apostle John all SAY/Prophecy a post-trib Second Coming Ressurection/Rapture

Anyone able to override these faithful Witnesses???

 

[Galgal]

The False Messiah = there will be no false Jesus = only a False messiah = SEE the difference???

YHWH YAHshua says: "false teachers, false prophets and false christs/messiahs

YHWH YAHshua is the 3rd Temple = the Temple of Elohim that is being Built without earthbound materials and human hands

Why do you reject the Holy Scriptures and sell-out the Temple of His Body for a empty man-made building???

The false Messiah must introduce himself to people as "Jesus Christ". He has long since filled the entire Christian religion. According to the Scriptures, the real Jesus Christ was born in the fall, on the 7th day of the 8th month of Tishrei. What "Jesus Christ" was born on December 25, the birthday of the Roman sun god? Here is a false Christ for you: look at those who worship this idol by putting up a Christmas tree on December 25.

The Third Temple is described in your Bible, in the book of the prophet Ezekiel, chapters 40-48. The Temple was shown by God, so that we would build this Temple. Why do you pass off the emptiness of idolatry in your religion as the 3rd Temple of God? God showed you the real Temple in the prophecy of Ezekiel.

When you resist the embodiment of God's word written in your Bible, you are in the spirit of antichrist.

 

[Scott Downey]

When Will the Rapture Occur?

When will the rapture take place? Does it occur secretly or is it a public event? Who will and will not be in it?

www.biblestudy.org

 

[wooddog]

The Bible clearly states that Jesus Christ will return to the Temple described by Ezekiel:

Then said the Lord unto me; This gate shall be shut, it shall not be opened, and no man shall enter in by it; because the Lord, the God of Israel, hath entered in by it, therefore it shall be shut. (Ezekiel 44:2)

In this Temple will be the throne of God:

And he said unto me, Son of man, the place of my throne, and the place of the soles of my feet, where I will dwell in the midst of the children of Israel for ever, and my holy name, shall the house of Israel no more defile, neither they, nor their kings, by their whoredom, nor by the carcases of their kings in their high places. (Ezekiel 43:7)

the place of my throne - It is to this throne of God that the man child, Israel, will be caught up:

And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. (Revelation 12:5)

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Why is the seal of Solomon on top of the millennial temple?

 

[Galgal]

Why is the seal of Solomon on top of the millennial temple?

I don't know anything about the Seal of Solomon. If you are asking about Magen David, it is a symbol of the Messiah. The triangle with the top down is the Father, the Word and the Holy Spirit. The triangle with the top up is the spirit, soul and body. The union of Man and God is the Messiah. This union will be Israel in the Millennial Kingdom.



The flag of Israel should be changed: the Magen David on the flag should be yellow. The blue stripe at the bottom and the blue stripe at the top are "the waters which were under the firmament" and "the waters which were above the firmament". Israel will be the Kingdom of Heaven on earth. "Waters" in Genesis and Revelation means peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

 

[wooddog]

I don't know anything about the Seal of Solomon. If you are asking about Magen David, it is a symbol of the Messiah. The triangle with the top down is the Father, the Word and the Holy Spirit. The triangle with the top up is the spirit, soul and body. The union of Man and God is the Messiah. This union will be Israel in the Millennial Kingdom.

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The flag of Israel should be changed: the Magen David on the flag should be yellow. The blue stripe at the bottom and the blue stripe at the top are "the waters which were under the firmament" and "the waters which were above the firmament". Israel will be the Kingdom of Heaven on earth. "Waters" in Genesis and Revelation means peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

6 triangles, 6 points, and 6 sides of a hexagram a pagan symbol also

 

[Galgal]

6 triangles, 6 points, and 6 sides of a hexagram a pagan symbol also

So what? The cross can also be interpreted in different ways. For each sign, mutually exclusive interpretations can be found. What is, is: the Magen David became a symbol of Christ in the 20th century, when the Nazis put this sign on Jews. Previously, there were crosses for crucifixion, now - the Magen David brand. We will raise this as a banner.

 

[wooddog]

So what? The cross can also be interpreted in different ways. For each sign, mutually exclusive interpretations can be found. What is, is: the Magen David became a symbol of Christ in the 20th century, when the Nazis put this sign on Jews. Previously, there were crosses for crucifixion, now - the Magen David brand. We will raise this as a banner.

Will the false messiah co-opt this symbol?

 

[Galgal]

Will the false messiah co-opt this symbol?

Well, he appropriated the cross for himself. Who can stop anyone from doing that?

 

[David in NJ]

I don't know anything about the Seal of Solomon. If you are asking about Magen David, it is a symbol of the Messiah. The triangle with the top down is the Father, the Word and the Holy Spirit. The triangle with the top up is the spirit, soul and body. The union of Man and God is the Messiah. This union will be Israel in the Millennial Kingdom.

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The flag of Israel should be changed: the Magen David on the flag should be yellow. The blue stripe at the bottom and the blue stripe at the top are "the waters which were under the firmament" and "the waters which were above the firmament". Israel will be the Kingdom of Heaven on earth. "Waters" in Genesis and Revelation means peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

"Waters" in Genesis and Revelation means peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

EXCELLENT = you are beginning to SEE

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

So what? The cross can also be interpreted in different ways. For each sign, mutually exclusive interpretations can be found. What is, is: the Magen David became a symbol of Christ in the 20th century, when the Nazis put this sign on Jews. Previously, there were crosses for crucifixion, now - the Magen David brand. We will raise this as a banner.

The Manora is the true symbol of God !
The star of David etc is a Mans works in fact ! Stephen pointed that out in Acts.

 

[amigo de christo]

Caught up to meet Jesus IS the rapture!!!!Think!!

all i know is the event of being caught up with HIM , OH ITS GONNA BE GLORIOUS .
what a wonderful home awaits the lambs . as for the day and hour , We know not
but JESUS did warn his own , YA bess be watching and be ready for ye know NOT .........
All i know is the idea of being forever with THE LORD sounds like paradise to me . OH wait IT IS PARADISE .
now lift them hands and let the LORD be praised .
OH and beware for so long as we are in this world , PERSECUTOINS are GONNA only increase against the saints .
But always remember , far better is it to suffer and to die for CHRIST
than to live for a lie if even one lived as a king . IN other words , CONFORM NOT the harlots interfaith
and let us compromise not a word ONE of the glorious LORD .
NOW hit them trenches and let all that has breath praise the glorious LORD .

 

[amigo de christo]

I don’t believe it’s gonna happen. Except maybe when ya die. Everyone is gonna be judged by God at the cessation of life. So many predictions and nothing has happened. I do believe it happened to those who were watching and waiting in John’s time when the things which must happen must come soon. I believe faithful Jesus saved the bride in that day and age.

talk about DELAY NOT the LORDS coming . man you just said YOU dont even think its gonna happen .
Mathew , if i were you I WOULD quickly flee that preterism stuff
and delve deep into the scriptures for thine own self .

 

[amigo de christo]

The False Messiah = there will be no false Jesus = only a False messiah = SEE the difference???

YHWH YAHshua says: "false teachers, false prophets and false christs/messiahs

YHWH YAHshua is the 3rd Temple = the Temple of Elohim that is being Built without earthbound materials and human hands

Why do you reject the Holy Scriptures and sell-out the Temple of His Body for a empty man-made building???

SOUND it out my friend . And let the LORD be praised .

 

[Galgal]

The Manora is the true symbol of God !
The star of David etc is a Mans works in fact ! Stephen pointed that out in Acts.

There is no mention of the Star of David in the Bible.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

The Rapture is About to Happen

Nope, the rapture is not about to happen... the man of sin has not been revealed yet (anit-christ)

2 Thessalonians 2:1-3
Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto Him,
That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition

*The phrase ”Gathering together”
Strongs 1997 = from 1996; a complete collection; especially a Christian meeting (for worship): -- assembling (gathering) together.
Strongs 1996 = from 1909 and 4863; to collect upon the same place: KJV -- gather (together).

*The phrase ”Falling Away”
Strongs 646 = feminine of the same as 647; defection from truth (properly, the state) ("apostasy"): KJV -- falling away, forsake.
Strongs 647 = neuter of a (presumed) adjective from a derivative of 868; properly, something separative, i.e. (specially) divorce: KJV -- (writing of) divorcement.
Strongs 868 = from 575 and 2476; to remove, i.e. (actively) instigate to revolt; usually (reflexively) to desist, desert, etc.: KJV -- depart, draw (fall) away, refrain, withdraw self.

*Same word is translated “forsake” in Acts 21:21 - so this is what the word means: many will forsake the Lord (speaking of those that were Christians but fall away)

Definitions point to the rapture not happening until many who claim to be Christians fall away from the faith, and the anti-christ is revealed

This would mean the traditional pre-trib rapture view could not be correct
where Christians are taken out before the anti-christ is revealed, but instead Christians will be here leading up to the start of the anti-christ coming to power

Some claim the word translated “falling away” really means rapture… if that were true, then 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3 would say the rapture won't happen until the rapture happens and the anti-christ be revealed which it does NOT say.