Revelation 7: 4-8 The 144000

[Timtofly]

If the 144,000 were to be Jews at the end times in the future, then that would make them the "LAST-fruits", wouldn't it? But that isn't what they were called.

"First-fruits" is a Jewish harvest term that was used for the barley harvest at Passover. Back under Mosaic law, there was a sheaf handful of the first-fruits of the barley harvest at Passover that was waved by the priest before the Lord, along with the offering of a single he-lamb without blemish (Leviticus 23:10-12). Together, both of these "First-fruits" offerings at Passover provided a symbol of Christ the Lamb of God and the Matthew 27:52-53 saints who shared that first bodily resurrection event on the same day.

Those 144,000 Matthew 27:52-53 first-fruits saints who were "redeemed from the earth" (by being resurrected out of the ground) went out to serve in the early church as prophets, evangelists, apostles (not the original 12), pastors, and teachers, as Ephesians 4:11-12 described their mission.


We are shown from Daniel 2 that Christ's "stone" kingdom would strike the feet of that image and reduce the entire statue to dust with a single blow. After that, His kingdom would continue to increase in size until the whole world will be filled with its effects. This blow was struck by Christ long ago in the first century. (This does not teach universal salvation, but it does prove that the kingdom of heaven will continue to steadily increase just like leaven and the mustard seed before Christ's final return.) In this case, a more fitting question would be "Who will be the limited number of those who do NOT have their eyes opened by then?" All nations will increasingly experience the effects of Christ's ongoing reign in this world up until the final judgment, as the prophets predicted long ago.

Firstfruits of the Second Coming earthly kingdom.

The 12 disciples in the first century were not the last-fruits of the OT Covenant. They were the firstfruits of the Messianic NT Covenant.

You all deny the millennial reign of Christ on earth, so will never understand the future firstfruits of that Kingdom.

 

[3 Resurrections]

The 12 disciples in the first century were not the last-fruits of the OT Covenant. They were the firstfruits of the Messianic NT Covenant.

The term "First-fruits" as related to the 144,000 is connected with a bodily resurrection event - namely the FIRST group resurrection event in AD 33 (aka "the FIRST resurrection" of Rev. 20:5).

"But NOW is Christ risen from the dead and become the FIRSTFRUITS of them that slept" (1 Cor. 15:20).

Both "Christ the First-fruits" and the 144,000 Jewish First-fruits of Rev. 14:4 shared the same title because they shared that first group bodily resurrection on the very same day in Matthew 27:52-53.

All these "First-fruits" rising from the dead in that "First resurrection" in AD 33 (Rev. 20:5) were raised from the dead just as the thousand year millennium was FINISHED. The Matthew 27:52-53 resurrected saints were the same as the "remnant of the dead" which came to life again when that millennium was finished in AD 33.

You look for a future millennium in vain. Those literal thousand years of the Revelation 20 millennium have been long since ended ever since that "First resurrection" event in AD 33.

 

[Timtofly]

Thanks for your reply! I look at it a little differently. The 144000 are to come before Jesus can return.

This connects with the 4th and final Great Jubilee cycle. Each of the cycles are 490 years in length. The 4th began the same time as the beginning of the 70 weeks of years prophecy in 456 BC. Thus, it was supposed to end 490 years later but the counting of it stopped exactly at the time of the cross or 3.5 years before its end date. Meaning, Jesus cannot return until the Great Jubilee is completed. So, after He opens their eyes and they recognize Jesus as the one they pierced, they will go out into the world just as Paul did for those remaining 3.5 years. Only the Jews can complete the Jubilee and bring in the Messiah.

The phrase “they will go wherever Jesus goes” is symbolic and it means they will essentially have a single purpose, entirely dedicated to the Word of God and do exactly what He has asked of them for the remaining 3.5 years. That is my take on this end time.

So the 12 disciples all came years prior to the birth of Jesus, and were not actually alive during that earthly ministry? That is your logic of who these 144k are. If the 12 had been prophecied, you would have declared they all had to be busy at work prior to the birth of Jesus.

These 144k can only be chosen at the Second Coming, just like the original 12 were chosen by Jesus after His baptism. The baptism of fire prophecied by John the Baptist is the Second Coming, not the first coming. Matthew 3:11-12

"He shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire."

The Holy Ghost was the ministry of the NT. The "fire" is the 6th Seal event, just prior to the 144k being sealed. They are sealed after Jesus returns, just like the 12 disciples were chosen after Jesus was baptized.

This unquenchable fire produces the LOF, which will be physically present from the 6th Seal on, forever. The LOF is not in existence today. It can only start at the Second Coming per 2 Peter 3. The 144k are sealed after the 6th Seal, not some movement heralding the Second Coming. If that happened, the Second Coming would not be a thief in the night moment. The birth of Jesus took all by surprise. Only 2 people were waiting and expecting that moment. So as with the Second Coming. All seem to think we will have years to prepare for the Second Coming by multiple events like the 144k or an AC.

The only indication of the Second Coming was Israel becoming a nation.

 

[Timtofly]

The term "First-fruits" as related to the 144,000 is connected with a bodily resurrection event - namely the FIRST group resurrection event in AD 33 (aka "the FIRST resurrection" of Rev. 20:5).

"But NOW is Christ risen from the dead and become the FIRSTFRUITS of them that slept" (1 Cor. 15:20).

Both "Christ the First-fruits" and the 144,000 Jewish First-fruits of Rev. 14:4 shared the same title because they shared that first group bodily resurrection on the very same day in Matthew 27:52-53.

All these "First-fruits" rising from the dead in that "First resurrection" in AD 33 (Rev. 20:5) were raised from the dead just as the thousand year millennium was FINISHED. The Matthew 27:52-53 resurrected saints were the same as the "remnant of the dead" which came to life again when that millennium was finished in AD 33.

You look for a future millennium in vain. Those literal thousand years of the Revelation 20 millennium have been long since ended ever since that "First resurrection" event in AD 33.

The firstfruits are not just about the first century just because they use the word "first". You would say that is ridiculous.

There is literally no resurrection event associated with the 144k. Why are you inventing a thought and forcing it into either Revelation 7 or 14.

 

[PGS11]

The 144,000 represent the complete number of the martyred saints including the rest of those who were to come out of the great tribulation (6:9-11).

[3] And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth. [4] These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins.

They are the Army of martyrs that Jesus comes with but they are just spectators Jesus is depicted with a sword for a mouth and does the fighting in other word he will slay with his words that's all he has to do is speak and his enemies will fall before him.

 

[CTK]

So the 12 disciples all came years prior to the birth of Jesus, and were not actually alive during that earthly ministry? That is your logic of who these 144k are. If the 12 had been prophecied, you would have declared they all had to be busy at work prior to the birth of Jesus.

These 144k can only be chosen at the Second Coming, just like the original 12 were chosen by Jesus after His baptism. The baptism of fire prophecied by John the Baptist is the Second Coming, not the first coming. Matthew 3:11-12

"He shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire."

The Holy Ghost was the ministry of the NT. The "fire" is the 6th Seal event, just prior to the 144k being sealed. They are sealed after Jesus returns, just like the 12 disciples were chosen after Jesus was baptized.

This unquenchable fire produces the LOF, which will be physically present from the 6th Seal on, forever. The LOF is not in existence today. It can only start at the Second Coming per 2 Peter 3. The 144k are sealed after the 6th Seal, not some movement heralding the Second Coming. If that happened, the Second Coming would not be a thief in the night moment. The birth of Jesus took all by surprise. Only 2 people were waiting and expecting that moment. So as with the Second Coming. All seem to think we will have years to prepare for the Second Coming by multiple events like the 144k or an AC.

The only indication of the Second Coming was Israel becoming a nation.

I have no idea what you are saying….

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Okay, I am currently reading / considering / studying chapter 7 of Revelation and came across the 144,000. Are there any thoughts on who these folks are and their mission? Thanks.

Well I vote for exactly what theye bible says.

They are 12,000 form the twelve tribes, are males and are sexual virgins. There is absolutely no reason to try to reinterpret it to say it means something else.

 

[3 Resurrections]

There is literally no resurrection event associated with the 144k. Why are you inventing a thought and forcing it into either Revelation 7 or 14.

There certainly IS a resurrection that the 144,000 experienced. The 144,000 being "redeemed from the earth" is speaking of the "redemption of the body" out of the ground in the bodily-resurrection process. They were "without fault", and there was "no guile" in their mouths, which is only possible in the glorified state of the resurrected righteous. Also, they were termed "virgins", since there is no marriage or giving in marriage in the resurrected state.

The "First-fruits" harvest term for the 144,000 tells us that these were the first mass group of resurrected saints to be "harvested" out of the grave along with "Christ the First-fruits" who was "risen from the dead" in order to receive that title.

You cannot sweep the Matthew 27:52-53 account under the rug. THEY were the 144,000 Jewish "First-fruits", along with "Christ the First-fruits" who rose from the dead in that "FIRST resurrection" event.

 

[CTK]

I have no idea what you are saying….

I am not sure if you are responding to another post in another topic ..... but please respond in this topic what you were commenting about. It is found in your number 46..

 

[Earburner]

Okay, I am currently reading / considering / studying chapter 7 of Revelation and came across the 144,000. Are there any thoughts on who these folks are and their mission? Thanks.

As you may know, there are many that believe the 144,000 are of literal Israel, who are chosen by God to preach the Gospel in the latter days. From that point, it gets very splintered into different theories, having to do with the concepts of a period called: "of great tribulation" and a period called: "a thousand years", all of which is dramatically depicted by most of the churches as being the three main views of: A-millennialism, Pre-millennialism and Post-millennialism.

The book of Rev. Is not to be understood in a chronological fashion!
The words of Revelation come directly from the mind of God, who in His Eternity, speaks symbolically to us in the past, present and future, all at the same time. Rev. 1:1.
Therefore, for correct interpretation, we must have the mind of Christ within us, and we must utilize it.
Many do have His mind within them, but they trade it off for "the wisdom of men" (denominational teachings).
> Please read all of 1 Cor. ch. 2.

From what I understand (as an Amillennialist), the symbolism of the 144,000 of Israel, and the meaning of it, comes from a different time zone, being that of the OC., upto the time of Jesus' crucifixion.
Most definitely, the 144,000 have to do with literal Israel, Rev. 7:1-8....but when?

My understanding is that the symbolic 144,000 WERE all of those who were under the OC., the Israel of faith, who died in faith believing, looking for "the Promise to come" of their Messiah.

However, before I briefly touch upon the 144,000, one must have a firm grasp on the reality that no one who lived their mortal existence, under the OC., ever had the permanent indwelling of the Gift of God's Holy Spirit, UNTIL AFTER the shedding of Christ's blood. Therefore, those of the OC., ( the symbolic 144,000) who had died in faith, were still waiting for the Promise of Messiah to come, who did come, having the Gift of eternal Life, through faith in Him.
please see 1 John 5:11-13

But, how do we know that all of such were not lost and forgotten of?
Since none of them yet had the permanent Gift of the Holy Spirit, the best that God could do for them, was to write their names in a Book of Remembrance. Malachi 3:16.

The rest is historical, biblical fact.
Please see:
Mat. 27:52-54- the resurrection upon Jesus' mortal death on the cross.

Rev. 6:9-11- those who were of the Israel of faith, who had died in faith, and were seen under the altar of the OC., were still waiting for the Promise. They each were "given white robes", which is symbolic of the permanent Gift of the Holy Spirit, upon Jesus' mortal death, and His own resurrection.

So then, what shall we say of those of Israel, who have converted to Jesus since Pentecost?
Because there is now no difference between a Jew or a Gentile in God's eyes (Rom. 10:12), all born again Jews, through faith in Jesus, will be of "the Great Multitude".

 

[CTK]

As you may know, there are many that believe the 144,000 are of literal Israel, who are chosen by God to preach the Gospel in the latter days. From that point, it gets very splintered into different theories, having to do with the concepts of a period called: "of great tribulation" and a period called: "a thousand years", all of which is dramatically depicted by most of the churches as being the three main views of: A-millennialism, Pre-millennialism and Post-millennialism.

The book of Rev. Is not to be understood in a chronological fashion!
The words of Revelation come directly from the mind of God, who in His Eternity, speaks symbolically to us in the past, present and future, all at the same time. Rev. 1:1.
Therefore, for correct interpretation, we must have the mind of Christ within us, and we must utilize it.
Many do have His mind within them, but they trade it off for "the wisdom of men" (denominational teachings).
> Please read all of 1 Cor. ch. 2.

From what I understand (as an Amillennialist), the symbolism of the 144,000 of Israel, and the meaning of it, comes from a different time zone, being that of the OC., upto the time of Jesus' crucifixion.
Most definitely, the 144,000 have to do with literal Israel, Rev. 7:1-8....but when?

My understanding is that the symbolic 144,000 WERE all of those who were under the OC., the Israel of faith, who died in faith believing, looking for "the Promise to come" of their Messiah.

However, before I briefly touch upon the 144,000, one must have a firm grasp on the reality that no one who lived their mortal existence, under the OC., ever had the permanent indwelling of the Gift of God's Holy Spirit, UNTIL AFTER the shedding of Christ's blood. Therefore, those of the OC., ( the symbolic 144,000) who had died in faith, were still waiting for the Promise of Messiah to come, who did come, having the Gift of eternal Life, through faith in Him.
please see 1 John 5:11-13

But, how do we know that all of such were not lost and forgotten of?
Since none of them yet had the permanent Gift of the Holy Spirit, the best that God could do for them, was to write their names in a Book of Remembrance. Malachi 3:16.

The rest is historical, biblical fact.
Please see:
Mat. 27:52-54- the resurrection upon Jesus' mortal death on the cross.

Rev. 6:9-11- those who were of the Israel of faith, who had died in faith, and were seen under the altar of the OC., were still waiting for the Promise. They each were "given white robes", which is symbolic of the permanent Gift of the Holy Spirit, upon Jesus' mortal death, and His own resurrection.

So then, what shall we say of those of Israel, who have converted to Jesus since Pentecost?
Because there is now no difference between a Jew or a Gentile in God's eyes (Rom. 10:12), all born again Jews, through faith in Jesus, will be of "the Great Multitude".

That was truly a tremendous series of unique thoughts! I have, obviously, never heard that before since I just started Revelation, but the underlying concepts are very well connected and thought out. And, they seem to address the identity and purpose for the 144K.

The only difference I have with this interpretation is the timing. There are a couple of verses - Old and New Testament that prophesied (Isaiah, Hosea, Matthew) that tell us He will restore His people. I believe they speak to these 144K who will go out into the world preaching the Good News. They will do so because God will do to them exactly what He did to Paul- He will once again give them their Damascus experience and remove the blindness from their eyes and they will recognize the One they had pierced.

Now, if you studied the Old Testament in regards to the 4 and only 4 Great Jubilee cycles found in Leviticus, you will remember that the 4th and final GJ began at the same time as the 70 weeks of years prophecy (certainly no coincidence). It was to end at the same time - 490 years later and then (after the 4th GJ) it would bring in the Messiah. But because of the Cross, the clock stopped counting (His people were obviously no longer in good standing with them for rejecting and crucifying their Messiah), and thus, there were 486.5 years of the required 490 years completed (Jesus was crucified exactly 3.5 years into the last week of the prophecy. Another reason why the 7 year tribulation theory is entirely and intentionally grossly fabricated by the little horn). So, it is still 3.5 years short, and, the Jews are the only ones that can complete them- meaning the church cannot and it is a responsibility only of the Jews to fulfill).

So, when God deems the “time of the Gentiles” is over He will give them (144K) their Damascus experience, and they will preach the Good News for the final 3.5 years and then the Messiah will come. He cannot come before the 4th GJ is completed.

So there was nothing of the 70 weeks of years prophecy that was unfulfilled or left incomplete. The Jews completed all the responsibilities given to them in restoring the City and the Temple, and Jesus completed and fulfilled all His responsibilities in the restoration process (restored the Ark of the Covenant - presence of God in the Sanctuary that could not be fulfilled by the Jews as well as His 6 requirements (9:24), despite being crucified in the middle of the last week. So the 70 weeks prophecy was entirely completed as God intended- the 70 weeks prophecy is done and completed, however, the 4th and final GJ, from a time perspective, ran parallel to the timing of the prophecy. It is those 3.5 years that must be completed.

The 144K will preach the Good News to the people exactly as Paul did in the first century and this will begin the most profound and intense period where the little horn (papacy and his false teachings and all those aligned with him) will fight back against the 144K.

 

[Earburner]

That was truly a tremendous series of unique thoughts! I have, obviously, never heard that before since I just started Revelation, but the underlying concepts are very well connected and thought out. And, they seem to address the identity and purpose for the 144K.

The only difference I have with this interpretation is the timing. There are a couple of verses - Old and New Testament that prophesied (Isaiah, Hosea, Matthew) that tell us He will restore His people. I believe they speak to these 144K who will go out into the world preaching the Good News. They will do so because God will do to them exactly what He did to Paul- He will once again give them their Damascus experience and remove the blindness from their eyes and they will recognize the One they had pierced.

Now, if you studied the Old Testament in regards to the 4 and only 4 Great Jubilee cycles found in Leviticus, you will remember that the 4th and final GJ began at the same time as the 70 weeks of years prophecy (certainly no coincidence). It was to end at the same time - 490 years later and then (after the 4th GJ) it would bring in the Messiah. But because of the Cross, the clock stopped counting (His people were obviously no longer in good standing with them for rejecting and crucifying their Messiah), and thus, there were 486.5 years of the required 490 years completed (Jesus was crucified exactly 3.5 years into the last week of the prophecy. Another reason why the 7 year tribulation theory is entirely and intentionally grossly fabricated by the little horn). So, it is still 3.5 years short, and, the Jews are the only ones that can complete them- meaning the church cannot and it is a responsibility only of the Jews to fulfill).

So, when God deems the “time of the Gentiles” is over He will give them (144K) their Damascus experience, and they will preach the Good News for the final 3.5 years and then the Messiah will come. He cannot come before the 4th GJ is completed.

So there was nothing of the 70 weeks of years prophecy that was unfulfilled or left incomplete. The Jews completed all the responsibilities given to them in restoring the City and the Temple, and Jesus completed and fulfilled all His responsibilities in the restoration process (restored the Ark of the Covenant - presence of God in the Sanctuary that could not be fulfilled by the Jews as well as His 6 requirements (9:24), despite being crucified in the middle of the last week. So the 70 weeks prophecy was entirely completed as God intended- the 70 weeks prophecy is done and completed, however, the 4th and final GJ, from a time perspective, ran parallel to the timing of the prophecy. It is those 3.5 years that must be completed.

The 144K will preach the Good News to the people exactly as Paul did in the first century and this will begin the most profound and intense period where the little horn (papacy and his false teachings and all those aligned with him) will fight back against the 144K.

Interesting concept. However, in the 70th week, the last 3.5 years of Jesus' ministry was performed by His Holy Spirit, thus continuing to confirm the NC. with His early church. Because this is the truthful rendition of the 70th week, there is no future ministry for earthly Jerusalem/Israel, which was "cast out". Gal. ch. 4.

 

[MonoBiblical]

You have 144,000 Israelites redeemed [from] sin. They come all from different tribes, except the notable exception of Dan.

 

[CTK]

Interesting concept. However, in the 70th week, the last 3.5 years of Jesus' ministry was performed by His Holy Spirit, thus continuing to confirm the NC. with His early church. Because this is the truthful rendition of the 70th week, there is no future ministry for earthly Jerusalem/Israel, which was "cast out". Gal. ch. 4.

I will have to apologize... I am not sure what you mean re: the last 3.5 years of the prophecy. Certainly, God told us He would send His Holy Spirit but that did not, in my opinion, have anything to do with the remaining 3.5 years of the prophecy. Jesus would send His Holy Spirit after He fulfilled all that was required of Him by His Father. The "cutting off" of His ministy did not add to or take away from everything He would acccomplish or was asked to accomplish. I also do not know what you mean in your second response re: the earthly ministry of His people.... I believe God has indeed given us the prophecies that His people will return to Him, but only after He has removed the blindness from their eyes and they can complete the remaining 3.5 years of the 4th GJ cycle.

But once again, we all have different interpretations but I have not found any that are similar to yours --- other than mine of course.

 

[Earburner]

I will have to apologize... I am not sure what you mean re: the last 3.5 years of the prophecy. Certainly, God told us He would send His Holy Spirit but that did not, in my opinion, have anything to do with the remaining 3.5 years of the prophecy. Jesus would send His Holy Spirit after He fulfilled all that was required of Him by His Father. The "cutting off" of His ministy did not add to or take away from everything He would acccomplish or was asked to accomplish. I also do not know what you mean in your second response re: the earthly ministry of His people.... I believe God has indeed given us the prophecies that His people will return to Him, but only after He has removed the blindness from their eyes and they can complete the remaining 3.5 years of the 4th GJ cycle.

But once again, we all have different interpretations but I have not found any that are similar to yours --- other than mine of course.

The prophecy is: KJV Dan. 9
[27] And he [Jesus] shall confirm the [New] covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he [Jesus] shall cause [by the sacrifice of Himself] the [temple] sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations [of their continuance of animal sacrifices] he [Jesus] shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined [verse 24] shall be poured upon the desolate [Acts 10:44-45].

 

[Earburner]

You have 144,000 Israelites redeemed [from] sin. They come all from different tribes, except the notable exception of Dan.

If you are implying that this all takes place with 144,000 Jews, under the NC., God has firmly declared, through the Holy Spirit in Paul:
Rom. 10
[11] For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
[12] For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
[13] For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
God is no longer making any distinction of who is a Jew and who is not!

 

[CTK]

The prophecy is: KJV Dan. 9
[27] And he [Jesus] shall confirm the [New] covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he [Jesus] shall cause [by the sacrifice of Himself] the [temple] sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations [of their continuance of animal sacrifices] he [Jesus] shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined [verse 24] shall be poured upon the desolate [Acts 10:44-45].

Thanks for your thoughts! Here is my interpretation:


27Then he (Jesus) shall confirm a covenant (New Covenant) with many for (the word "for" is intentionally placed here. It is not for but "DURING," that is, it is consistent with the prophecy in 9:2-27), meaning, Jesus will confirm the NC DURING THE LAST WEEK OF THE PROPHECY - Jesus began His ministry on the first day of the last week (after the end of the 69th week), and He was on the earth for 3.5 years before He was crucified)...leaving for heaven before the end of the 7 years period....;
But in the middle of the week (exactly 3.5 years into the last week of the prophecy)
He (Jesus) shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering (He is the perfect Passover Lamb of God - no futher need for animal sacrifices),
And on the wing of abominations (the abomination is the cross - the rejection and crucifixion of their Messiah) shall be one (Jesus) who makes desolate, (as a punishment for their rejection of Him, God would make Himself "desolate" from His people),
Even until the consummation, which is determined, (until it is consumated - until God has deemed it when He determines the "time of the Gentiles" is completed. and He removes the blindness from their eyes, and then His people will once again go out into the world preaching the Good News)
Is poured out on the desolate.” (this time period in only known to God how long the period of their punishment is but it will be when He determines the time of the Gentiles is over).

Daniel chapter 9 is all about the Messiah.

 

[ewq1938]

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God is no longer making any distinction of who is a Jew and who is not!

No, that's wrong. God is saying there is no difference between believers not that there aren't still different tribes and ethnicities of ppl in the world.

 

[Douggg]

Thanks for your thoughts! Here is my interpretation:

If you review Ezekiel 39, the 7 years of the 70th week are Ezekiel 39:9. Armageddon at the end of those 7 years in Ezekiel 39:17-20. And Jesus return to this earth in Ezekiel 21-29. It is pretty easy to understand.

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Ezekiel 39:1-8 - the destruction of Gog's army.

Ezekiel 39:9 - the 7 years that follow. At the first part of the 7 years will be the arrival of the prince that shall come, i.e. the little horn person, who the Jews will think is their long awaited messiah.

Ezekiel 39:17-20 - the Armageddon event, the text corresponding to Revelation 19:17-18.

Ezekiel 39:21-29 - Jesus's return to this earth. Jesus Himself speaking in the text.

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The Gog/Magog event on my chart....

 

[ewq1938]

A dif view: