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Yea know I could be nice to you and the Jehovah’s Witnesses. And I could pat you on the back and watch you walk down that path to Hell. But that would not be very Christian of me. I had to give you a stern warning.

Romans 8:9-11

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9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his
So I have done that and now I have nothing further to say to you.
Your warnings are meaningless ,as they are your words.

I believe Gods Living testimony,His Living Holy Spirit , Born Again of imperishable seed.

We must be Born Again to see the Kingdom Of God, so if one believes in Jesus, you must be reborn in your spirit, otherwise we wouldn’t know who Jesus was/is.

I have nothing further to say to you either, unless you try and start fear mongering again...have a good day.
 

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8 Remember that Jesus Christ, of the seed of David, was raised from the dead according to my gospel, 9 for which I suffer trouble as an evildoer, even to the point of chains; but the word of God is not chained. 10 Therefore I endure all things for the sake of the [c]elect, that they also may obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.

11 This is a faithful saying:

For if we died with Him,
We shall also live with Him.
12 If we endure,
We shall also reign with Him.
If we deny Him,
He also will deny us.
13 If we are faithless,
He remains faithful;
He cannot deny Himself.

Approved and Disapproved Workers​

14 Remind them of these things, charging them before the Lord not to [d]strive about words to no profit, to the ruin of the hearers. 15 Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 16 But shun profane and [e]idle babblings, for they will [f]increase to more ungodliness. 17 And their message will spread like cancer. Hymenaeus and Philetus are of this sort, 18 who have strayed concerning the truth, saying that the resurrection is already past; and they overthrow the faith of some. 19 Nevertheless the solid foundation of God stands, having this seal: “The Lord knows those who are His,” and, “Let everyone who names the name of [g]Christ depart from iniquity.”

20 But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and silver, but also of wood and clay, some for honor and some for dishonor. 21 Therefore if anyone cleanses himself from the latter, he will be a vessel for honor, [h]sanctified and useful for the Master, prepared for every good work. 22 Flee also youthful lusts; but pursue righteousness, faith, love, peace with those who call on the Lord out of a pure heart. 23 But avoid foolish and ignorant disputes, knowing that they generate strife. 24 And a servant of the Lord must not quarrel but be gentle to all, able to teach, patient, 25 in humility correcting those who are in opposition, if God perhaps will grant them repentance, so that they may know the truth, 26 and that they may come to their senses and escape the snare of the devil, having been taken captive by him to do his will.
 
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20 For our citizenship is in heaven, from which we also eagerly wait for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, 21 who will transform our lowly body that it may be conformed to His glorious body, according to the working by which He is able even to subdue all things to Himself.
Interesting. We are supposed to have a body like the Messiah.
 
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The God Almighty the creator is 'all knowing' or omniscient.

Psalm 139:1-9, Acts 15:18, and Hebrews 4:12-13, even describes God’s intimate knowledge of human thoughts, intentions, and actions, before they occur in our Space-Time.
GREAT

Elohim is Plural
Elohim communicated His Reality to us thru His Word by which we are able to know Him who is TRUE

So Elohim began His TRUTH with Genesis

In the beginning
בְּרֵאשִׁ֖ית (bə·rê·šîṯ)
Preposition-b | Noun - feminine singular
Strong's Hebrew 7225: 1) first, beginning, best, chief 1a) beginning 1b) first 1c) chief 1d) choice part

God
אֱלֹהִ֑ים (’ĕ·lō·hîm)

Noun - masculine plural
Strong's Hebrew 430: 1) (plural) 1a) rulers, judges 1b) divine ones 1c) angels 1d) gods 2) (plural intensive-singular meaning) 2a) god, goddess 2b) godlike one 2c) works or special possessions of God 2d) the (true) God 2e) God
 
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Interesting. We are supposed to have a body like the Messiah.

A body in the Likeness AS….Glorified…ie Sinless….that mortals can not See.

Rapture…the Lord redeeming His Church…
They Shall rise up in their Glorified, Sinless Body…meet and See the Lord as He IS….
an Event non-Converted Mortals on Earth….Will Not See.

Imagine…ON Earth, the instant CHAOS…
Automobiles, Trucks, busses, cabs, motorcycles without drivers, planes without pilots, on and on…

Fascinating…CNN will have some actual news to report! :rolleyes:

Glory to God,
Taken
 

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GREAT

Elohim is Plural
Elohim communicated His Reality to us thru His Word by which we are able to know Him who is TRUE

So Elohim began His TRUTH with Genesis

In the beginning
בְּרֵאשִׁ֖ית (bə·rê·šîṯ)
Preposition-b | Noun - feminine singular
Strong's Hebrew 7225: 1) first, beginning, best, chief 1a) beginning 1b) first 1c) chief 1d) choice part

God
אֱלֹהִ֑ים (’ĕ·lō·hîm)

Noun - masculine plural
Strong's Hebrew 430: 1) (plural) 1a) rulers, judges 1b) divine ones 1c) angels 1d) gods 2) (plural intensive-singular meaning) 2a) god, goddess 2b) godlike one 2c) works or special possessions of God 2d) the (true) God 2e) God
Elohim is not the original true title for God Almighty David, although it is considered legitimate.

Yes, Elohim is a plural noun, but it is used in a singular sense when referring to the God of Israel. Check it out...
 

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A body in the Likeness AS….Glorified…ie Sinless….that mortals can not See.

Rapture…the Lord redeeming His Church…
They Shall rise up in their Glorified, Sinless Body…meet and See the Lord as He IS….
an Event non-Converted Mortals on Earth….Will Not See.

Imagine…ON Earth, the instant CHAOS…
Automobiles, Trucks, busses, cabs, motorcycles without drivers, planes without pilots, on and on…

Fascinating…CNN will have some actual news to report! :rolleyes:

Glory to God,
Taken
We are caught up into the air on the Last Day, which is also the Day of the Resurrection, at His return.
There is the Trumpet sounded, and the voice of the archangel
There is a sudden destruction of the wicked at this time. For sure lots of chaos and fear by those who do not know God and who do not obey the gospel..
And every eye shall see Him as He returns on the clouds of heaven to gather His elect to Himself.

The Comfort of Christ’s Coming​

13 But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen [b]asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who [c]sleep in Jesus.

15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are [d]asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first.

17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.
 
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Elohim is not the original true title for God Almighty David, although it is considered legitimate.

Yes, Elohim is a plural noun, but it is used in a singular sense when referring to the God of Israel. Check it out...
Elohim is not the original
Sure it is = Genesis 1:1 = but this is just "the Beginning" of more TRUTH to come

Elohim is a plural noun, but it is used in a singular sense when referring to the God of Israel.
You are CORRECT = 100% TRUTH

And this is the Foundation of TRUTH about Who exactly Elohim is that begins in Genesis

Here THEY are as ONE = Genesis 1:26 = Let Us make man in Our image according to Our likeness" = 3 that are Echad/One
 

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The reason I believe this is the Last Day of this world, is because the dead in Christ rise at this time.

  1. John 6:39
    This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day.
    In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
  2. John 6:40
    And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.”
    In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
  3. John 6:44
    No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day.
    In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
  4. John 6:54
    Whoever eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day.
 
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John 11:24
Martha said to Him, “I know that he will rise again in the resurrection at the last day.”

John 12:48
He who rejects Me, and does not receive My words, has that which judges him— the word that I have spoken will judge him in the last day.
 
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Mark 13​

The Signs of the Times and the End of the Age​

3 Now as He sat on the Mount of Olives opposite the temple, Peter, James, John, and Andrew asked Him privately, 4 “Tell us, when will these things be? And what will be the sign when all these things will be fulfilled?”

5 And Jesus, answering them, began to say: “Take heed that no one deceives you. 6 For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am He,’ and will deceive many. 7 But when you hear of wars and rumors of wars, do not be troubled; for such things must happen, but the end is not yet. 8 For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be earthquakes in various places, and there will be famines [a]and troubles. These are the beginnings of [b]sorrows.

9 “But watch out for yourselves, for they will deliver you up to councils, and you will be beaten in the synagogues. You will [c]be brought before rulers and kings for My sake, for a testimony to them. 10 And the gospel must first be preached to all the nations. 11 But when they arrest you and deliver you up, do not worry beforehand, [d]or premeditate what you will speak. But whatever is given you in that hour, speak that; for it is not you who speak, but the Holy Spirit. 12 Now brother will betray brother to death, and a father his child; and children will rise up against parents and cause them to be put to death. 13 And you will be hated by all for My name’s sake. But he who [e]endures to the end shall be saved.

The Great Tribulation​

14 “So when you see the ‘abomination of desolation,’ [f]spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not” (let the reader understand), “then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 15 Let him who is on the housetop not go down into the house, nor enter to take anything out of his house. 16 And let him who is in the field not go back to get his clothes. 17 But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! 18 And pray that your flight may not be in winter. 19 For in those days there will be tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the creation which God created until this time, nor ever shall be. 20 And unless the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect’s sake, whom He chose, He shortened the days.

21 “Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or, ‘Look, He is there!’ do not believe it. 22 For false christs and false prophets will rise and show signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the [g]elect. 23 But take heed; see, I have told you all things beforehand.

The Coming of the Son of Man​

24 “But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; 25 the stars of heaven will fall, and the powers in the heavens will be shaken. 26 Then they will see the Son of Man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. 27 And then He will send His angels, and gather together His [h]elect from the four winds, from the farthest part of earth to the farthest part of heaven.

The Parable of the Fig Tree​

28 “Now learn this parable from the fig tree: When its branch has already become tender, and puts forth leaves, you know that summer is near. 29 So you also, when you see these things happening, know that [i]it is near—at the doors! 30 Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all these things take place. 31 Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away.
 

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Let all that has breath both praise and thank the glorious LORD . Yes indeed its time for a praise fest unto the LORD .

Taken put that together well. And I love when brothers and sisters God's words because He is glorified that way

1 Peter 4:1 If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God; if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth: that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

Similarly Jesus said,

John 7:18 He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.


There should be less of the latter and more of the former.
 
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A body in the Likeness AS….Glorified…ie Sinless….that mortals can not See.

Rapture…the Lord redeeming His Church…
They Shall rise up in their Glorified, Sinless Body…meet and See the Lord as He IS….
an Event non-Converted Mortals on Earth….Will Not See.

Imagine…ON Earth, the instant CHAOS…
Automobiles, Trucks, busses, cabs, motorcycles without drivers, planes without pilots, on and on…

Fascinating…CNN will have some actual news to report! :rolleyes:

Glory to God,
Taken
You don't know when it happened. We are 950 years too late for it.
 

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The God Almighty the creator is 'all knowing' or omniscient.

Psalm 139:1-9, Acts 15:18, and Hebrews 4:12-13, even describes God’s intimate knowledge of human thoughts, intentions, and actions, before they occur in our Space-Time.

I would like to add that although God is omni-present. When Christ was referring to His Father He would say His Father in Heaven and He was walking on earth.

One of many scriptures that show a distintion between God the Father and God the Son. And then you have all fifty of the My Father verses. And the verse where Christ says, My Father is greater than I.

You heard that I said to you, ‘I go away, and I will come to you.’ If you loved Me, you would have rejoiced because I go to the Father, for the Father is greater than I. John 14:28
 
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I would like to add that although God is omni-present. When Christ was referring to His Father He would say His Father in Heaven and He was walking on earth.

One of many scriptures that show a distintion between God the Father and God the Son. And then you have all fifty of the My Father verses. And the verse where Christ says, My Father is greater than I.

You heard that I said to you, ‘I go away, and I will come to you.’ If you loved Me, you would have rejoiced because I go to the Father, for the Father is greater than I. John 14:28
Did you know that JESUS and the FATHER were never separated = even when JESUS walked this earth?
 

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I would like to add that although God is omni-present. When Christ was referring to His Father He would say His Father in Heaven and He was walking on earth.

One of many scriptures that show a distintion between God the Father and God the Son. And then you have all fifty of the My Father verses. And the verse where Christ says, My Father is greater than I.

You heard that I said to you, ‘I go away, and I will come to you.’ If you loved Me, you would have rejoiced because I go to the Father, for the Father is greater than I. John 14:28
I think all Trinitarians agree with all of this -- but confine these references to the 30-odd years that Jesus Christ was walking the planet. I think all Trinitarians acknowledge that during this time frame Jesus Christ had "emptied himself" (to quote Phil. 2:6-7) of a bunch of stuff that would explain all of these comparative verses, and make them accurate without entailing rejection of the divinity of Christ..
 

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We are caught up into the air on the Last Day, which is also the Day of the Resurrection, at His return.

I believe the catching UP to the Clouds…
Applies to those IN Christ , ie. His Church)…While The Lord Descends from Heaven to the Clouds…
Certainly that IS….the Raptured’s Last Day on This Earth As It is….

Mortals are still on Earth…

He likened as the Son of Man is who came and Shall Return on a white cloud…To be Seen by All…His saints With Him, unseen to mortals
Yet still He is, NOT On Earth.

He separates those mortals on Earth…who have become believers during the Trib…their bodies martyred …dead…their saved souls gathered together by His Angels and Sent to Heaven.

I think we are not in the same sequence of events.
In brief…

There is a multitude of events occurring in the Last days….Preparation Gathering, and Tribulations, Wrath of the Lamb, the wrath of the Devil, Gathering, The wrath of God and the Remnant, the 1.000 years reign, the Raptured shall forever be with the Lord and the First Resurrected shall be Priests of Christ during the 1,000 yr reign. Another War…final elimination of all mortals and fallen angels spirits forever in the pits of hell….a new city. Earth and heaven one.

Every holy Angel, every fallen angel, every believer, every converted saved and quickened believer, every man who last minute becomes a believer, every non/believer, every non-believer who persecuted believers For their belief, believers not martyred, remaining mortal…
All have to be accounted, judged, sentenced….

Glory to God,
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