MORE THAN ONE BIBLE GOSPEL

[Soyeong]

There is more than one gospel in the Bible. It is imperative to comprehend not only to whom each gospel was given, but how they differ. It is also of the upmost importance to know which gospel is for our salvation unto eternal life.

Galatians 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

The gospel was given to Abraham. A gospel is glad tidings, good news. The obligation of mankind is to believe what God said. Abraham believed that God would bless all the nations through him.

Genesis 15:5 And he brought him forth abroad, and said, Look now toward heaven, and tell the stars, if thou be able to number them: and he said unto him, So shall thy seed be.15:6 And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness.

It is always and only by faith that God saves, by believing God. It is always and only by grace that God saves in doing for us what we are incapable of in and of ourselves.

The gospel was given to Israel in the wilderness.

Hebrews 4:1Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
4:2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.

What gospel was the writer of Hebrews referring to?

Deuteronomy 1:8 Behold, I have set the land before you: go in and possess the land which the LORD sware unto your fathers, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, to give unto them and to their seed after them.

The gospel of entering into God's rest through belief in Hebrews 4 is not the same gospel given to Israel in the wilderness to possess the land. It can be seen from this comparison alone that there is more than just one gospel.

Jesus preached the gospel of the kingdom.

Mark 1:15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.

Matthew 4:17 From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

The Davidic kingdom was promised to Israel, wherein, they would inherit an earthly kingdom and reign with Christ (Daniel 2:44 Revelation 20:4). Israel was to believe on the name of Jesus, that Jesus was the Son of God, the Messiah. Placing faith and trust in Jesus and his name would justify them unto eternal life (John 20:31). Obeying his commandments would physically save them to enter the kingdom (Matthew 5:20). Upon belief the kingdom would have been ushered in.

The Jews had to only believe on the name of Jesus to have eternal life.

[John 20:31 KJV] 31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

[John 3:16, 18 KJV] 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. ... 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

This differs from Paul saying that we receive eternal life by the grace of God.

[Titus 3:7 KJV] 7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

Christ began to speak of his death and resurrection, but the twelve apostles did not understand it at that time. If the twelve did not understand the cross, the death and resurrection, how then could they be preaching the same gospel as Paul?

[Luke 18:31-34 KJV] 31 Then he took [unto him] the twelve, and said unto them, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem, and all things that are written by the prophets concerning the Son of man shall be accomplished. 32 For he shall be delivered unto the Gentiles, and shall be mocked, and spitefully entreated, and spitted on: 33 And they shall scourge [him], and put him to death: and the third day he shall rise again. 34 And they understood none of these things: and this saying was hid from them, neither knew they the things which were spoken.

Christ commissioned the twelve to preach the kingdom of heaven, the gospel of the kingdom (Luke 9:2).

[Matthew 10:5-7 KJV] 5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into [any] city of the Samaritans enter ye not: 6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. 7 And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.

This is the gospel Peter preached; the gospel of the circumcision (Galatians 2:7).

Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Peter preached Jesus was the Son of God, the Christ. Peter preached the same baptism of John for the remission of sin, plus receiving the Holy Ghost to enter the kingdom.

Acts 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;

Peter preached that the resurrection of Christ would assure he would come and establish the kingdom on earth to believing Israel. Israel will be saved at the coming of Christ Jesus. The risen Christ will sit on the throne of David.

[Act 2:30 KJV] 30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;

God promised a new covenant to Israel in Jeremiah.
always been by faith, by believing God.

In Matthew 4:15-23, Jesus began his ministry with the Gospel message to repent for the Kingdom of God is at hand, which was a light to the Gentiles, and God's law was how his audience knew what sin is, so repenting from our disobedience to it is a central part of the Gospel of the Kingdom, which is in accordance with Jesus being sent in fulfillment of the promise to bless us by turning us from our wickedness (Acts 3:25-26), which is the Gospel of the Kingdom that was made known in advance to Abraham in accordance with the promise (Galatians 3:8), which he spread to those in Haran in accordance with the promise (Genesis 12:1-5), and which is the Gospel of the Kingdom that Paul also taught based on God's law (Acts 14:21-22, 20:24-25, 28:23, Romans 15:4, 18-19), so you are wrongly dividing the word of truth.

 

[Behold]

Thats what I meant.

There is Paul's Gospel, and there is Acts 2:38.

They are not the same.

Paul's Gospel has no water baptism in it. It only has "Justification by Faith" in it.... that is based on the finished work of Jesus on the Cross.

This does not mean that you should not be water baptized after you are born again......as all believers should be water baptized after they are born again........if possible.
Sometimes is not possible to be water baptized after you are born again.

 

[Doug]

In Matthew 4:15-23, Jesus began his ministry with the Gospel message to repent for the Kingdom of God is at hand, which was a light to the Gentiles, and God's law was how his audience knew what sin is, so repenting from our disobedience to it is a central part of the Gospel of the Kingdom, which is in accordance with Jesus being sent in fulfillment of the promise to bless us by turning us from our wickedness (Acts 3:25-26), which is the Gospel of the Kingdom that was made known in advance to Abraham in accordance with the promise (Galatians 3:8), which he spread to those in Haran in accordance with the promise (Genesis 12:1-5), and which is the Gospel of the Kingdom that Paul also taught based on God's law (Acts 14:21-22, 20:24-25, 28:23, Romans 15:4, 18-19), so you are wrongly dividing the word of truth.

If I understand correctly you are saying Paul preached the gospel of the kingdom
The gospel of the kingdom included believing on the name of Jesus that he is Son of God and Christ
To enter the kingdom they had to endure the tribulation until the end and be faithful and fruitful and keep the law
In the kingdom believing Israel will be a light to bring the Gentile nations to Christ

[Gen 12:2 KJV] 2 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:
This was the gospel in Gal 3:8 Israel would be a blessing to Gentiles

Now the verses you cited:

[Act 3:25-26 KJV] 25 Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed. 26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.

This was spoken to Israel

[Act 14:21-22 KJV] 21 And when they had preached the gospel to that city, and had taught many, they returned again to Lystra, and [to] Iconium, and Antioch, 22 Confirming the souls of the disciples, [and] exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.

They were not preaching the gospel of the kingdom
This was not the great tribulation upon Israel but suffering persecution

[Act 20:24-25 KJV] 24 But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry, which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the gospel of the grace of God. 25 And now, behold, I know that ye all, among whom I have gone preaching the kingdom of God, shall see my face no more.

Paul did not receive the ministry of the kingdom on earth and the gospel of the kingdom but the ministry to the Body of Christ (Ephesians 4:12)
The kingdom of God consists of heaven and earth Paul spoke of the heavenly (2 Tim 4:18)

[Act 28:23 KJV] 23 And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into [his] lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and [out of] the prophets, from morning till evening.

Paul preached Jesus from the law and the prophets (Romans 16:25-26)

[Rom 15:4 KJV] 4 For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.

Paul preaching the mystery does not negate the law and the prophets.
Paul did not teach what was written for Israel to obey applied to the Body of Christ nor that he preached Israel's kingdom was for us

[Rom 15:18-19 KJV] 18 For I will not dare to speak of any of those things which Christ hath not wrought by me, to make the Gentiles obedient, by word and deed, 19 Through mighty signs and wonders, by the power of the Spirit of God; so that from Jerusalem, and round about unto Illyricum, I have fully preached the gospel of Christ.

The Gentiles were to be obedient to believing the gospel of Christ he preached and the commands of Christ through Paul in this dispensation

 

[Doug]

They were not preaching yet, it all began on the day of Pentecost,

[Luk 9:1-2 KJV] 1 Then he called his twelve disciples together, and gave them power and authority over all devils, and to cure diseases. 2 And he sent them to preach the kingdom of God, and to heal the sick.

It is quite evident they were preaching the gospel of the kingdom before pentecost

 

[Doug]

How can they preach another Gospel from Paul, for GOD is not an author of confusion but of peace.

Maybe best explained by Galatians

[Gal 2:9 KJV] 9 And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we [should go] unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.

They separated their gospels
Eventually the gospel of the kingdom diminished

 

[Doug]

There's no such false claim as of today that the Jews received their Gospel from Christ and the 12 Apostles.

Today Jew and Gentile must believe the gospel Paul received and delivered
During the ministry of Christ on earth the Jews had to receive the gospel of the kingdom preached by Christ and the twelve

 

[Verily]

There is Paul's Gospel, and there is Acts 2:38.

They are not the same.

Paul's Gospel has no water baptism in it. It only has "Justification by Faith" in it.... that is based on the finished work of Jesus on the Cross.

This does not mean that you should not be water baptized after you are born again......as all believers should be water baptized after they are born again........if possible.
Sometimes is not possible to be water baptized after you are born again.

Not talking about the doctrine of baptisms but the gospel of Jesus Christ, his death, burial and resurrection, the one we have faith in.

 

[Fred J]

[Luk 9:1-2 KJV] 1 Then he called his twelve disciples together, and gave them power and authority over all devils, and to cure diseases. 2 And he sent them to preach the kingdom of God, and to heal the sick.

It is quite evident they were preaching the gospel of the kingdom before pentecost

Excuse me, they were only preaching the first part of Gospel, for repentance and baptism.

On the day of Pentecost, it's during their complete discipleship and were filled with the Holy Ghost and His Power.

 

[Fred J]

Maybe best explained by Galatians

[Gal 2:9 KJV] 9 And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we [should go] unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.

They separated their gospels
Eventually the gospel of the kingdom diminished

No, that's your take and own 'shortsighted' perception from out of context of the scripture.

There's no mention of separated their Gospels and the Gospel of the Kingdom diminished.

It is just that they separated their ways, where Paul and Barnabas are wise and commonly known to the audience of Gentiles.

While Peter and James are wise and commonly known to the audience of Jews, even in Jerusalem.

For between Jews and Gentiles believers there were bit of resentment, due to one is circumcised and the other is not.

Today we have the New Testament as a testimony, that we're not to choose Paul's Gospel as Gentiles, for it is not written.

We start from the Gospel according to Matthew to the Revelation according to John, both Jews and Gentiles saved by grace.

Now that's our full Gospel in equality, and together we'll have to give an account to the Lord Jesus Christ on that day.

Shalom in the name of Jesus Christ

 

[Soyeong]

If I understand correctly you are saying Paul preached the gospel of the kingdom
The gospel of the kingdom included believing on the name of Jesus that he is Son of God and Christ
To enter the kingdom they had to endure the tribulation until the end and be faithful and fruitful and keep the law
In the kingdom believing Israel will be a light to bring the Gentile nations to Christ

Indeed, Paul preaching the Kingdom of God is the Gospel of the Kingdom to repent for the Kingdom of God is at hand. Repenting from our sins is also the way to believe on the name of Jesus that he is the Son of God and Christ. To enter the Kingdom of God, we straightforwardly need to repent from our sins in accordance with the Gospel of the Kingdom.

[Gen 12:2 KJV] 2 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:
This was the gospel in Gal 3:8 Israel would be a blessing to Gentiles

God's law is how the children of Abraham know how to be blessed, so the way to be a blessing to the Gentiles is by turning Gentiles from their wickedness and teaching them to obey God's law in accordance with the promise and with spreading the Gospel of the Kingdom.

Now the verses you cited:

[Act 3:25-26 KJV] 25 Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed. 26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.

This was spoken to Israel

The Gospel of the Kingdom isn't just for Israel, but rather Jesus commissioned his disciples to bring it to Gentiles.

[Act 14:21-22 KJV] 21 And when they had preached the gospel to that city, and had taught many, they returned again to Lystra, and [to] Iconium, and Antioch, 22 Confirming the souls of the disciples, [and] exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.

They were not preaching the gospel of the kingdom
This was not the great tribulation upon Israel but suffering persecution

Paul leading people to enter the Kingdom of God is preaching the Gospel of the Kingdom.

[Act 20:24-25 KJV] 24 But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry, which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the gospel of the grace of God. 25 And now, behold, I know that ye all, among whom I have gone preaching the kingdom of God, shall see my face no more.

Paul did not receive the ministry of the kingdom on earth and the gospel of the kingdom but the ministry to the Body of Christ (Ephesians 4:12)
The kingdom of God consists of heaven and earth Paul spoke of the heavenly (2 Tim 4:18)

Again, Paul preaching the Kingdom of God is preaching the Gospel of the Kingdom. The Kingdom of God is also known as the body of Christ and is the heavenly kingdom.

[Act 28:23 KJV] 23 And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into [his] lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and [out of] the prophets, from morning till evening.

Paul preached Jesus from the law and the prophets (Romans 16:25-26)

Indeed, I cited that verse to show that the Gospel of the Kingdom is based the Law and the Prophets.

[Rom 15:4 KJV] 4 For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.

Paul preaching the mystery does not negate the law and the prophets.
Paul did not teach what was written for Israel to obey applied to the Body of Christ nor that he preached Israel's kingdom was for us

I said nothing to suggest that Paul preach the mystery negates the Law and the Prophet, but rather he referred to them as being for our instruction, which contradicts your claim that Paul did not teach what was written for Israel to obey applied to the Body of Christ nor that he preached Israel's kingdom was for us.

[Rom 15:18-19 KJV] 18 For I will not dare to speak of any of those things which Christ hath not wrought by me, to make the Gentiles obedient, by word and deed, 19 Through mighty signs and wonders, by the power of the Spirit of God; so that from Jerusalem, and round about unto Illyricum, I have fully preached the gospel of Christ.

The Gentiles were to be obedient to believing the gospel of Christ he preached and the commands of Christ through Paul in this dispensation

The Gospel of Christ calls for our repentance from our disobedience to God's law in accordance with the Law and the Prophets being for our instruction.

 

[Fred J]

Today Jew and Gentile must believe the gospel Paul received and delivered
During the ministry of Christ on earth the Jews had to receive the gospel of the kingdom preached by Christ and the twelve

Now with that false doctrine of yours, will only cause a division once again which Jesus Christ broke once and for all.

The commission that Jesus gave to the Twelve is, 'Go therefore to all nation and make disciple .........................'

All nation, including in Israel when Jesus started in all region, there were already Jews and Gentiles hearing.

Both of them heard the same Gospel, even after Jesus from the Apostles and churches.

Also way later from Paul, added revelational knowledge pertaining to the same Gospel.

1 Corinthians 1:
10. Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no division among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgement.
11. For it hath been declared unto me of you, my brethren, by them which are of the house of Ce, that there are contentions among you.
12. Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ.
13. Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?

That's why today we have too many church denominations in division from one another, period

 

[Behold]

Not talking about the doctrine of baptisms but the gospel of Jesus Christ, his death, burial and resurrection, the one we have faith in.

"All who call on the Name of Jesus, shall be saved".

Titus 3:5-7

5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;

7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.​

 

[Verily]

"All who call on the Name of Jesus, shall be saved".

Titus 3:5-7​

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5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;​

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6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;​

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7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.​

Thats part of the gospel

1 Cr 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

Romans 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

 

[Behold]

Thats part of the gospel

1 Cr 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

Romans 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

There is the definition of "The Gospel", and its a lot of verses that detail it, as Paul's Gospel of the Grace of God.

Then theire is the Application of the Gospel.. and is "All who call on the name of Jesus, shall be saved".

This is "Faith comes by hearing".. The Gospel... which is... "the preaching of the Cross"

 

[Verily]

There is the definition of "The Gospel", and its a lot of verses that detail it, as Paul's Gospel of the Grace of God.

Then theire is the Application of the Gospel.. and is "All who call on the name of Jesus, shall be saved".

This is "Faith comes by hearing".. The Gospel... which is... "the preaching of the Cross"

I have no idea what you are going on about or striving with me about.

 

[Behold]

I have no idea what you are going on about or striving with me about.

Im not striving with you.
You posted to me, and i responded..........to you.
Thats how a "forum" works.
If you post to me again, i'll post to you again.

See it?

 

[Doug]

Now with that false doctrine of yours,

Please tell me what false doctrine you are referring to

 

[Doug]

The commission that Jesus gave to the Twelve is, 'Go therefore to all nation and make disciple .........................'

As you say he gave it to the twelve to fulfill not us
Paul gave us our commission
[2Co 5:20 KJV] 20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech [you] by us: we pray [you] in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.

 

[Doug]

That's why today we have too many church denominations in division from one another, period

There are divisions because they dont righltly divide the Word or follow Paul

 

[Verily]

Im not striving with you.
You posted to me, and i responded..........to you.
Thats how a "forum" works.
If you post to me again, i'll post to you again.

See it?

No see I guess?

No because I am finding it difficult to read you in the way you are posting with these dots...... in between short bursts of words..... I very often cannot catch what you are saying when you do that.

I am very familar with forums and how they work, I owned a few of them but I am not familiar with that kind of communicating.