THE Trinity can Now be discussed.
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In the beginning the Word already was. The Word was in God's presence, and what God was, the Word was.
Yes, I’ve posted that many times on the forum.Tools
1Jo 3:9 - No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God's seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God.
The Living seed of God remains in our spirit, permanently.
Seed = Spirit.
Wrangler
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I'm not getting around it. You are reading into it and did not answer my question that if your take is correct, why doesn't his purpose statement say so in 20:31?
And more fundamentally, 2 is not 3. Nothing in John 1 supports the trinity.
David in NJ
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Scripture does say John was a "man" - 100% TRUTH
Scripture also tells us who John's parents were as well = Zacharias and Elizabeth - see Luke chapter 1
How did the "man" JESUS come into the world??? Who are His parents???
Micah 5
The Messiah, The Son, whose goings forth are from of old, from everlasting
2 “But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah,
Though you are little among the thousands of Judah,
Yet out of you shall come forth to Me
The One to be Ruler in Israel,
Whose goings forth are from of old,
From [a]everlasting.”
3 Therefore He shall give them up,
Until the time that she who is in labor has given birth;
Then the remnant of His brethren
Shall return to the children of Israel.
4 And He shall stand and feed His flock
In the strength of the Lord,
In the majesty of the name of the Lord His God;
And they shall abide,
For now He shall be great
To the ends of the earth;
5 And this One shall be peace.
For unto us a Child is born,
Unto us a Son is given;
And the government will be upon His shoulder.
And His name will be called
Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
Peace between God and man
Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,
The Messiah, The Son, whose goings forth are from of old, from everlasting
2 “But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah,
Though you are little among the thousands of Judah,
Yet out of you shall come forth to Me
The One to be Ruler in Israel,
Whose goings forth are from of old,
From [a]everlasting.”
3 Therefore He shall give them up,
Until the time that she who is in labor has given birth;
Then the remnant of His brethren
Shall return to the children of Israel.
4 And He shall stand and feed His flock
In the strength of the Lord,
In the majesty of the name of the Lord His God;
And they shall abide,
For now He shall be great
To the ends of the earth;
5 And this One shall be peace.
For unto us a Child is born,
Unto us a Son is given;
And the government will be upon His shoulder.
And His name will be called
Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
Peace between God and man
Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,
John 1:41
40 One of the two who heard John speak, and followed Him, was Andrew, Simon Peter’s brother.
He first found his own brother Simon, and said to him, “We have found the Messiah” (which is translated, the Christ).
42 And he brought him to Jesus.
Now when Jesus looked at him, He said, “You are Simon the son of [b]Jonah. You shall be called Cephas” (which is translated, [c]A Stone).
40 One of the two who heard John speak, and followed Him, was Andrew, Simon Peter’s brother.
He first found his own brother Simon, and said to him, “We have found the Messiah” (which is translated, the Christ).
42 And he brought him to Jesus.
Now when Jesus looked at him, He said, “You are Simon the son of [b]Jonah. You shall be called Cephas” (which is translated, [c]A Stone).
David in NJ
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@Wrangler @Aunty Jane @Ritajanice(Good Morning)
TRUTH #1 - There is only One NAME that is required for us to BELIEVE on so that our sins can be washed away = Lord Jesus Christ
TRUTH #2 - JESUS is "the ONLY begotten Son of ELohim" = stop saying mankind are all begotten of God = we are not
TRUTH #3 - the Holy Spirit also comes from the FATHER
PURE TRUTH = Can you count to 3 ??? as in this Passage of TRUTH - Acts 4:8-12
Then Peter, filled with the Holy Spirit, said to them, “Rulers of the people and elders of Israel: If we this day are judged for a good deed done to a helpless man, by what means he has been made well, let it be known to you all, and to all the people of Israel,
that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead, by Him this man stands here before you whole.
This is the ‘stone which was rejected by you builders, which has become the chief cornerstone.’ Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”
See this post for an alternative interpretation of John 1:1-5. Here's a snippet from it:
As Jesus said in John 14:10, “the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works”. John says “the word was with [pros] God” because the word proclaimed was the word God Himself proclaimed, through the man Jesus, and the word proclaimed was God Himself making Himself known, who He is. God’s divine qualities He made known through Jesus – the word Jesus proclaimed was God.
David in NJ
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God gave birth to our spirit..yes he did.
I have a flesh father.
I have a Spirit Father..?
I’m open and listening to you, let’s hear the words of God coming out of your mouth.
My mind is 100% open to hearing from the Spirit.
RLT63
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I'm not arguing for the Trinity, I'm saying Jesus is the Word.
Plenty of scriptures declare that Jesus is God.
David in NJ
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We, you, me and the Body of Christ, should ALL be speaking to one another by the Holy Spirit.
When we do this we encourage, challenge and even correct one another = it is always a blessing from Above
RLT63
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David in NJ
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@Ritajanice
If i do not respond, i am not ignoring you or anyone but i have responsibilities today that requires my full attention.
If i do not respond, i am not ignoring you or anyone but i have responsibilities today that requires my full attention.
We are Born Again in our spirit..Gods imperishable /incorruptible seed is what our spirit has been Born Again of,
We are Alive in Christ, Alive in our spirit.
So I rebuke your opinion.
How do you communicate with God, by whose Living witness ?
John 3
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3 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.
3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit
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