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amigo de christo

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WHILE it be true GOD does know WHO are HIS
i surely worry for the many who sure seem to be lipping the name
but following another jesus , another gospel , heck even another bible .
Who be ever quick to holler judge not unto those sent by GOD , whose desire was good for them , and bring HIS WORDS
OH how fast they holler judge not you hater . Bring not those reminders , away with them words
away with the Words inspired of GOD , the GOD they cliam to serve , PREACH TO US SMOOTH THINGS
Speak not unto us these hateful words you judgers . YE JUDGE they holler , YE hate they holler
But it is not in them to know or to discern , for many have rejected THE HOLY ONE OF ISRAEL , that is is they
WHO JUDGE . but who is it they JUDGE . WELL ask yaself , WHOSE WORDS ARE THEY HATING ON
THEY JUDGE GOD
THEY JUDGE CHRIST and treat HIS WORDS as dung . as the dung of the earth .
and love and embrace the words of men that twisted the scrips . THIS is not looking good david . NOT AT ALL .
 
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I am not worried since “Jehovah knows those who belong to him,” as the case of Korah showed.

Curiously, most people who call themselves "Christians" think they have the holy spirit of God in them, but their acts and words show something different.

Oh, yes, they all are.
Jesus causes offenses, people became offended when He spoke to them the truth.
And they get offended today over who He is, and He asks, who do men say that I AM.
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Romans 9:33
As it is written: “Behold, I lay in Zion a stumbling stone and rock of offense, And whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame.”

The Chosen Stone and His Chosen People​

4 Coming to Him as to a living stone, rejected indeed by men, but chosen by God and precious, 5 you also, as living stones, are being built up a spiritual house, a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. 6 Therefore it is also contained in the Scripture,

“Behold, I lay in Zion
A chief cornerstone, elect, precious,
And he who believes on Him will by no means be put to shame.”
7 Therefore, to you who believe, He is precious; but to those who [b]are disobedient,

“The stone which the builders rejected
Has become the chief cornerstone,”
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“A stone of stumbling
And a rock of offense.”
They stumble, being disobedient to the word, to which they also were appointed.
 
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DO a sheep love A LIE
IS a lie EVEN OF THE TRUTH .
Can GOD LIE .
NO a sheep loveth not a lie .
NO LIE IS OF THE TRUTH
GOD cannot lie . THUS HIS WORDS ARE NOT A LIE .
it is Men who can lie and have lied . wescott and hort were agents of satan . satan i say and i said it for all to see .
Those who twisted the words of GOD and rewrote also another bible , WERE USED of satan to do so .
But the lambs WILL NOT , DO NOT , and shall not heed a word outta they lips
or their twisted bibles or twisted scriptures . the meat of a lamb IS OF GOD and HIS WORDS are their meat .
 

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Jesus causes offenses, people became offended when He spoke to them the truth.
And they get offended today over who He is, and He asks, who do men say that I AM.
If you are Born Again you can’t be offended,

We have a living testimony residing in our hearts..we don’t take any notice of name callers, because we don’t believe in the Trinity.

I don’t believe in the Trintity.
 

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42 Jesus said to them, “Have you never read in the Scriptures:

‘The stone which the builders rejected
Has become the chief cornerstone.
This was the Lord’s doing,
And it is marvelous in our eyes’?

43 “Therefore I say to you, the kingdom of God will be taken from you and given to a nation bearing the fruits of it. 44 And whoever falls on this stone will be broken; but on whomever it falls, it will grind him to powder.”

45 Now when the chief priests and Pharisees heard His parables, they [h]perceived that He was speaking of them. 46 But when they sought to lay hands on Him, they feared the multitudes, because they took Him for a prophet.
 
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Folks might say , MAN amigo try offering up some sugar with your words .
Friend and friends , I AINT got time to sugar coat . THE CHURCHES have sugar coated stuff for far too long .
TIME TO LET THE WORDS OF TRUTH reveal what is within that sugar coating . cause it AINT GOOD .
sugar on top of a lie , IS STILL A LIE . and though it may seem sweet , BABY ITS TASTE is the taste that leadeth to death .
And while the taste of the many might taste the sugar coating of a lie as sweet
A lamb takes one whiff and can smell the DUNG WITHIN . its sugar coated DOO DOO to a lamb .
FOR JESUS HAS THE SHEEP and their taste buds ENJOY ONLY ONE MEAT . BIBLE MEAT BABY . for every word
of GOD is pure and sweet as the honey comb to a lamb .
 

amigo de christo

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Christ rock of offense and stumbling stone.

Romans 9:32
Why? Because they did not seek it by faith, but as it were, by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumbling stone.
Trivia question . YOU WROTE A BEAUTIFUL TRUTH MY FRIEND .
so now let us ask a question .
TELL me is our faith IN JESUS THE CHRIST if we rather heed men who twist and omit His words .
HOW can a mans faith be in JESUS THE CHRIST , if a man believeth NOT HIS WORDS
but rather heeds men who twisted , omitted and chunked them words to the curb . they faith IS IN MEN not GOD
and men who twisted them words unto their own destruction .
i warn us scott , many follow another jesus and that one WILL NOT save them .
many heed another voice that has come from within to seduce all right into a lie .
And its men can and do wear wool . we better watch out .
 

amigo de christo

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42 Jesus said to them, “Have you never read in the Scriptures:

‘The stone which the builders rejected
Has become the chief cornerstone.
This was the Lord’s doing,
And it is marvelous in our eyes’?

43 “Therefore I say to you, the kingdom of God will be taken from you and given to a nation bearing the fruits of it. 44 And whoever falls on this stone will be broken; but on whomever it falls, it will grind him to powder.”

45 Now when the chief priests and Pharisees heard His parables, they [h]perceived that He was speaking of them. 46 But when they sought to lay hands on Him, they feared the multitudes, because they took Him for a prophet.
beware for we have many within that do wear wool
but have come to preach DECONSTRUCTION . and scott i just seen today
a man I NEVER would have beleived put a like on that mans post .
WATCH OUT friend . watch out one and watch out all .
We better bible up , right now like never before . cause men can sound very wise but are here to lead one to a lie . watch out .
 

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beware for we have many within that do wear wool
but have come to preach DECONSTRUCTION . and scott i just seen today
a man I NEVER would have beleived put a like on that mans post .
WATCH OUT friend . watch out one and watch out all .
We better bible up , right now like never before . cause men can sound very wise but are here to lead one to a lie . watch out .
You upset with me Brother?

Where did i put a like on that i should not of???
 
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I am not worried since “Jehovah knows those who belong to him,” as the case of Korah showed.

Curiously, most people who call themselves "Christians" think they have the holy spirit of God in them, but their acts and words show something different.

Oh, yes, they all are.
Who is 'Jehovah' to you???

Which 'Jehovah'???

The Holy One said:
“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
 
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amigo de christo

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You upset with me Brother?

Where did i put a like on that i should not of???
Not you david . this man put a like on another thread . HE did it way back in june . i just seen it today .
BEWARE OF DECONSTRUCTIONIST . they can tell partail truths as can any false prophet .
BUT IT IS DEADLY dangerous . Deadly .
 

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So JW is a reactionary belief system against the Catholics and Protestants?
Well, not all non-trinitarians are JW’s…perhaps it’s good to acknowledge that fact…

Reactionary? YES!!! And why wouldn’t we react to false doctrines being promoted as Bible truth?

It’s not until you actually study the Bible itself and allow it to provide answers that you can see through the illogical and unbiblical beliefs that so many hang onto because they are told that salvation depends on believing these things…..but salvation comes from knowing “the only true God” AND “the one whom he sent” (John 17:3)…..so the identity of both God and his son are vital for everlasting life, yet here we see the third party completely missing from this statement, as ”he” often is when God and his son are mentioned together. There never were three’ gods’. The God of Israel was “one”. (Deut 6:4) Jesus and his apostles were Jewish…as was every single Bible writer. None would have accepted Jesus as “ho theos”, but as “theos”....yes, a “divine mighty one”.

Even in the favored John 1:1, only God and his son are mentioned. If you look at the Greek you will see plainly that “ho theos” is there pertaining to Yahweh and so is “theos”…pertaining to the Word…..there are two “gods” mentioned in that verse, but where is number three?

Just researching the meaning of the word “theos” reveals so much about who God/god is.…and what relationship the Father and his firstborn son had even before he became Jesus the man.

“Theos” in Greek does not carry the same meaning as “God” in English. But only original language word studies will reveal this very important truth. To call someone “theos” simply meant “a divine mighty one” a terminology that fits any ‘god, goddess, divinity or deity‘ (Strongs definition)

Since the one God of Israel had only one name (YHWH) and the Jews refused to utter it, the only way to identify this God from all the other gods in that polytheistic society, was by the use of the definite article…”ho”. So when “ho theos” is used it refers to Yahweh as “THE God”…….and when “theos” is used without the definite article, it refers to a powerful personage “a god” or ‘one with divine authorization’ like the judges in Israel (John 10:31-33)…..it is used of angels, God’s son, human judges and even satan. If humans can be called ”theos” and even satan is called by this designation, then something is wrong with the way modern translations convey the truth…it is twisted beyond all recognition…..and so deeply ingrained in their theology, that they cannot see past it.

All those scriptures that refer to God in trinitarians translations that omit the definite article and translate all reference to “theos” as “God” with a capital “G”…..they ignore the fact that there are no capitals in the Greek alphabet. Translators with a trinitarians bias mislead all who read their translations. No more clearly seen than in the exchanges on this runaway train of a discussion.

Suffice it to say that those who have chosen their position will answer directly to the judge who is at this moment taking note of all who claim to belong to him…..he knows those who truly know him. And nothing will change his mind when he passes sentence on those who could not be told.

This subject is a salvation issue.…it can be debated till the cows come home, but one truth remains despite all the arguments and counter arguments….God’s nature is unalterable and so is the nature of his son…..and the Holy Spirit remains what it has always been.
If we believe the truth, we will be saved…if we accept the lie, we will not. Jesus will tell us all soon enough, but we already know that the majority will go down making excuses. (Matt 7:13-14; 21-23) “Few” will be found on the road to life.
Ponder on that.
 

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Since the one God of Israel had only one name (YHWH) and the Jews refused to utter it, the only way to identify this God from all the other gods in that polytheistic society, was by the use of the definite article…”ho”. So when “ho theos” is used it refers to Yahweh as “THE God”…….and when “theos” is used without the definite article, it refers to a powerful personage “a god” or ‘one with divine authorization’ like the judges in Israel (John 10:31-33)
Are we really discussing what the Jews did and didn't do to refer to God IN GREEK?
 

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Are we really discussing what the Jews did and didn't do to refer to God IN GREEK?
We are discussing what the first Christians believed….all were Jewish and monotheists. Judge for yourself if that has a bearing in this discussion.
 
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THE Trinity can Now be discussed.​

You now have permission to exercise your right to free speech. Use it while the door is open......because who knows when those wielding the big sword will close it! :Oh no:
 
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So JW is a reactionary belief system against the Catholics and Protestants?
BINGO

It is not about believing the Lord Jesus Christ.
It is a religion that seeks it's own righteousness by claiming to know the true name of God.
This is why they always refer to believing with the Jewish people under monotheism.

The jws are dead-locked.

Romans 10:1-4
Brethren, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for Israel is that they may be saved. For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge. For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and seeking to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted to the righteousness of God.

For Christ is the end of the law/works/religion for righteousness to everyone who believes.
 
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