THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

[face2face]

I am quite certain I did not solicit you to speak for me….with your words.

While this is true the dilemma remains.

 

[Taken]

We are not Born Again of the Lord.

We are Born Of The Spirit.


39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

Heb 10:
[5] Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:

What do you think Jesus’ BODY LOOKED LIKE BEFORE He came INTO the World?

Where exactly do you think Jesus WAS BEFORE He came INTO the World?

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Ritajanice]

Heb 10:
[5] Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:

Jesus was not God.

What do you think Jesus’ BODY LOOKED LIKE BEFORE He came INTO the World?

That makes not an ounce of sense.

Where exactly do you think Jesus WAS BEFORE He came INTO the World?

Not God that’s for sure.my opinion.

Glory to God,
Taken

Sorry none of that says Jesus is God.

 

[IronMaiden]

trivia question time my friend . an answer i believe you already know my friend .
Tell me if a man or woman cometh and says i love JESUS and yet omits and disregaurds His teachings
and preaches another gospel that implies one does not have to BELIEVE on HIM
DO ya really THINK they LOVE JESUS or THE FATHER WHO SENT HIM .
THIS LAMB SAYS HECK NO . if a man loveth not TRUTH , and every word of the LORD BE TRUTH , AS HE HIMSELF IS THE TRUTH
then that man is DECIEVED big time and follows and loveth another jesus and that jesus gets no captilzation on my watch
cause IT AINT THE CHRIST OF GOD .

I agree, my friend. ”HECK NO.”

 

[David in NJ]

Sorry David I disagree ..Jesus was never God...and never will be.
Sorry David we are Born Of The Spirit, we are not Born Again of the Lord.

We are Born Of God, His seed remains in us.

Spirit gives birth to spirit.


The Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are the children of God.

Anyway...see you tomorrow, gone bedtime here..good night Brother..your beloved Son is in my prayers.

What does this scripture declare

Romans 8:9
Now you are not in flesh but in Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you;
but if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not of Him.

 

[Ritajanice]

What does this scripture declare

Romans 8:9
Now you are not in flesh but in Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you;
but if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not of Him.

His seed remains in us...God could not come down as he is and birth our spirit...that’s ridiculous.

We are Born Of The Spirit..Born Again.,Spirit gives birth to spirit.

 

[face2face]

The dilemma is the mystery of the Godhead, and scripture does not explain it. Neither does scripture explain the nature of the holy Spirit. We tread roughly on holy ground when we attempt to define what revelation does not define.

This is where this discussion always leads - mystery. This is the answer to the dilemma because when error is introduced to the Word of God it must result in something unintelligible.

There is no Mystery:

After the Lords ascension, the Spirit revealed the mystery of the Gospel to the Apostles, preparing them to resume preaching the Gospel of the Kingdom. Jesus had previously said, "But the time cometh when I shall no more speak unto you in parables" (John 16:25). He also promised, "The Comforter... shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance" (John 14:26).

Peter was the first to proclaim the mystery to the Jews on the day of Pentecost (Acts 2:22–28, 31–35). Similarly, when the Ethiopian eunuch was reading the Scriptures, he asked, "Understandest thou what thou readest?" He replied, "How can I, except some man should guide me?"

Then Philip opened his mouth and began with that very scripture, preaching to him about Jesus (Acts 8:27–38).

The prophets diligently inquired and searched, seeking to understand what the Spirit of Christ within them signified when it testified beforehand about the sufferings of Christ and the glory that would follow (Psalm 110:1). Even the angels desired to look into these matters (1 Peter 1:10–12).

The mystery of Christ, which was not known to previous generations, has now been revealed to His holy apostles (Ephesians 3:3, 5). God had shown through the prophets that Christ would suffer, and He has fulfilled this (Acts 3:18). The preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of this mystery, was kept secret since the world began but is now made manifest (Romans 16:25-26).

The mystery that had been hidden for ages and generations is now revealed (Colossians 1:26-27). The wisdom of God, hidden before the world’s creation and ordained for our glory, was unknown to the rulers of this world (1 Corinthians 2:7-8).

God has made known the mystery of His will (Ephesians 1:9), which is the faith once delivered to the saints (Jude 3), and which Paul now preaches, having once persecuted it (Galatians 1:23). Before faith came, we were under the law, but the faith which was to be revealed later has now come (Galatians 3:23).

The prophets who prophesied of the grace to come declared the salvation of which we are now partakers (1 Peter 1:10). This mystery is also called "the testimony of God" (1 Corinthians 2:1-2, 7; 2 Timothy 1:8), and the testimony of Jesus (2 Timothy 1:8).

The fellowship of the mystery, hidden from the beginning, has been revealed to us through the manifold wisdom of God (Ephesians 3:8-10). Paul asked for boldness to make known the mystery of the Gospel (Ephesians 6:19).

We declare the glad tidings that the promise made to the fathers has been fulfilled in us, their children, through the resurrection of Jesus (Acts 13:32-33). The hope of the promise, which the apostles affirmed to be the resurrected Jesus, is central to the resurrection of the dead
(Acts 23:6).

For the hope of God's promise to our fathers, which our twelve tribes continually serve God in expectation of, I am accused by the Jews (Acts 26:6-7).

If you have a Mystery you are acknowledging you don't have the complete revelation of Christ and His Gospel.

There is nothing wrong with acknowledging this only that God's Secrets are given to Whom He Wills....I pray they are given to you. I've provided more than enough treasures in my replies for you to find Him.

F2F

 

[Taken]

The dilemma is the mystery of the Godhead, and scripture does not explain it. Neither does scripture explain the nature of the holy Spirit. We tread roughly on holy ground when we attempt to define what revelation does not define.

Scripture is Primarily KNOWLEDGE and very little “explaining”….or otherwise giving “UNDERSTANDING” in the written text.

The Scripture IS KNOWLEDGE….believe it or not.
The Understanding Comes FROM Gods Spirit to a mans spirit. (As all communication between man and God is spirit to Spirit)

Prov 2:
[6] For the LORD giveth wisdom: out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding.

1 Cor 22:
[12] Only the LORD give thee wisdom and understanding, and give thee charge concerning Israel, that thou mayest keep the law of the LORD thy God.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[David in NJ]

His seed remains in us...God could not come down as he is and birth our spirit...that’s ridiculous.

We are Born Of The Spirit..Born Again.,Spirit gives birth to spirit.

Whose seed?

 

[David in NJ]

Scripture is Primarily KNOWLEDGE and very little “explaining”….or otherwise giving “UNDERSTANDING” in the written text.

The Scripture IS KNOWLEDGE….believe it or not.
The Understanding Comes FROM Gods Spirit to a mans spirit. (As all communication between man and God is spirit to Spirit)

Prov 2:
[6] For the LORD giveth wisdom: out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding.

1 Cor 22:
[12] Only the LORD give thee wisdom and understanding, and give thee charge concerning Israel, that thou mayest keep the law of the LORD thy God.

Glory to God,
Taken

How WONDERFUL for you to SEE this - thank You Brother = very encouraging

 

[Ritajanice]

Romans 8:9
Now you are not in flesh but in Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you;

The Holy Spirit indwell our spirit..who was sent by God, he is Gods Living witness.

 

[Ritajanice]

Whose seed?

The Holy Spirit is the Living seed, sent by God..he is not God.

He testifies Of God and Jesus to our spirit.

As his word says Jesus said we will receive a helper..

John 14:26

King James Version

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26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

 

[David in NJ]

The Holy Spirit indwell our spirit..who was sent by God, he is Gods Living witness.

Romans 8:9 mentions 3 SPIRITs

Please look again because this is either the TRUTH or a LIE for it CANNOT be BOTH

Now you are not in flesh but in Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you;
but if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not of Him.

In Romans 8:9, which Spirit saves us???

 

[Taken]

Where in the post you quoted did i suggest something different to what you wrote? For the record, (in case you've forgotten because I've said this many times) i believe Jesus is God. What else can the natural begotten ontological Son of God be, other than God begotten? Like begets like.

Where in the post you quoted did i suggest something different to what you wrote? For the record, (in case you've forgotten because I've said this many times) i believe Jesus is God. What else can the natural begotten ontological Son of God be, other than God begotten? Like begets like.

I have no issue with you….
Face 2 Face was speaking for you to me, then speaking for me….

Sorry for the mixup…
God bless you.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Ritajanice]

Romans 8:9 does not mention the Holy Spirit

Please look again because this is either the TRUTH or a LIE for it CANNOT be BOTH

Now you are not in flesh but in Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you;
but if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not of Him.

In Romans 8:9, which Spirit saves us???

We are Born Of The Spirit..The Holy Spirit, once we are Born Again we are then saved from eternal damnation.

John 14:26​

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King James Version​

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26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

 

[Taken]

While this is true the dilemma remains.

Stop gaslighting.
Brakelite and myself can each speak for ourselves.

 

[David in NJ]

The Holy Spirit is the Living seed, sent by God..he is not God.

He testifies Of God and Jesus to our spirit.

As his word says Jesus said we will receive a helper..

John 14:26​

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King James Version​

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26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

HALELLUYAH @Ritajanice

Post 673 stands corrected to the GLORY of GOD

 

[face2face]

Stop gaslighting.
Brakelite and myself can each speak for ourselves.

Let me ask you this then...How do you explain duality of natures? Can you provide a Scriptural definition to this conundrum?

F2F

 

[face2face]

@Brakelite

We know that Christ, being raised from the dead, will never die again; death no longer has dominion over him. Romans 6:9

How does Hypostatic Union work if Christ is held under deaths dominion?

F2F

 

[Ritajanice]

.How do you explain duality of natures?

Did you mean that some believe that Jesus had two natures?

It’s not biblical either is it?