understanding the time frames fit in Revelation

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No, the abomination of desolation setup on the temple mount begins the 1335 day long great tribulation.

Zechariah 14:12 is Revelation 19:21. Zechariah 14:12 is the result of Jesus speaking the destruction of the kings of the earth and their armies that have gathered to make war on Him and His army of heaven.

Revelation 19:
19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.
The great tribulation begins here when the resurection takes place.

Daniel 12:1-2

And at that time Michael the great prince shall stand up, that stands over the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of tribulation, such tribulation as has not been from the time that there was a nation on the earth until that time: at that time thy people shall be delivered, even every one that is written in the book.
And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to reproach and everlasting shame.


So you believe this great tribulation in Daniel 12:1 lasts for 1335 days after Christ comes and raises the dead.Who is it that you believe can survive 1335 days during this great tribulation without being delivered as them in 12:1?
 

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No, the abomination of desolation setup on the temple mount begins the 1335 day long great tribulation.

Zechariah 14:12 is Revelation 19:21. Zechariah 14:12 is the result of Jesus speaking the destruction of the kings of the earth and their armies that have gathered to make war on Him and His army of heaven.

Revelation 19:
19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.
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Also seeing the great tribulation is in Daniel 12:1 which takes place after Daniel 11:44,how do you believe a statue can annihilate many,?


Daniel 11:44
But reports from the east and the north will alarm him, and he will set out in a great rage to destroy and annihilate many.



According to your believe,how does the statue annihilate many?Are the people destroyed by its beauty?
 

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Also seeing the great tribulation is in Daniel 12:1 which takes place after Daniel 11:44,how do you believe a statue can annihilate many,?


Daniel 11:44
But reports from the east and the north will alarm him, and he will set out in a great rage to destroy and annihilate many.



According to your believe,how does the statue annihilate many?Are the people destroyed by its beauty?
Where are you getting that abomination of desolation annihilates many ?

Daniel 11:44 is about the beast-king getting attacked in a prelude to Armageddon.

As the attack is taking place, the sign of the Son of man will unsuspectingly appear in heaven. The warring armies, in fear, will stop fighting each other, and will join forces under the beast-king's leadership and prepare for 45 days, gathering at Armageddon to make war on Jesus and His army of heaven.

Here are two diagrams I made. One of Daniel 11:40-44, the prelude to Armageddon. Then the second diagram, of the beast-king making his final stand in Daniel 11:45 when he attempts to stand up against Jesus.



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Where are you getting that abomination of desolation annihilates many ?

Daniel 11:44 is about the beast-king getting attacked in a prelude to Armageddon.

As the attack is taking place, the sign of the Son of man will unsuspectingly appear in heaven. The warring armies, in fear, will stop fighting each other, and will join forces under the beast-king's leadership and prepare for 45 days, gathering at Armageddon to make war on Jesus and His army of heaven.

Here are two diagrams I made. One of Daniel 11:40-44, the prelude to Armageddon. Then the second diagram, of the beast-king making his final stand in Daniel 11:45 when he attempts to stand up against Jesus.



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Jesus said when the abomination of desolation is set up in Jerusalem , there would be great tribulation at that time.

The great tribulation takes place in Daniel 12:1 after the king of the north goes forth to annihilate many in Daniel 11:44.

Have you never paid attention to what Jesus said about the AOD and the great tribulation?
I see why you are confused .
 

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Jesus said when the abomination of desolation is set up in Jerusalem , there would be great tribulation at that time.
agreed.

he great tribulation takes place in Daniel 12:1 after the king of the north goes forth to annihilate many in Daniel 11:44.
agreed, the great tribulation is being referenced in Daniel 12:1.

Daniel 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

"at that time" is referring to "the time of the end" in Daniel 11:35 - not the continuation of Daniel 11:44-45.

Daniel 11:36-45 is time of the end. Describing the beast-king's activities. Up unto he meets his end in Daniel 11:45.

Daniel 12:1 pick ups what is going to happen to Daniel's people in the time of the end. That they will go through what the new testament is referred to as the great tribulation.
 

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agreed.


agreed, the great tribulation is being referenced in Daniel 12:1.

Daniel 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

"at that time" is referring to "the time of the end" in Daniel 11:35 - not the continuation of Daniel 11:44-45.

Daniel 11:36-45 is time of the end. Describing the beast-king's activities. Up unto he meets his end in Daniel 11:45.

Daniel 12:1 pick ups what is going to happen to Daniel's people in the time of the end. That they will go through what the new testament is referred to as the great tribulation.

The time of the end is not in Daniel 11:35.It is Daniel 11:40 when the king of the south attacks.

At that time in Daniel 12:1 is referring to Daniel 11:44 when the king of the north goes forth to annihilate many..

I expect hundreds of millions will be killed at that time.It takes 3.5 days from the time the king of the south attacks the king of the north in Daniel 11:40 to 11:44.
Daniel 11:44 is when the abomination is placed in Jerusalem causing the earthquake and the cloud to ascend into heaven .The same day the two witnesses ascend into heaven in that cloud.The same day the dead are raised in Daniel 12:2.
 

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The time of the end is not in Daniel 11:35.
Daniel 11:35 is a transition verse to the time of the end.

Daniel 11:16 picks up at the time of the end, with the beast-king in power.

Daniel 11:45 the beast-king meets his end on the temple mount.

At that time in Daniel 12:1 is referring to Daniel 11:44 when the king of the north goes forth to annihilate many..
No Daniel 12:1 is not referring to Daniel 11:44.

Daniel 11:44 is near the end of the 7 years, near the end of the great tribulation.

Daniel 11:45 is at the end of the 7 years, at the end of the great tribulation - when the beast-king meets his end on the temple mount - when Jesus returns and cast him and the false prophet alive into the lake of fire.
 

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Daniel 11:35 is a transition verse to the time of the end.

Daniel 11:16 picks up at the time of the end, with the beast-king in power.

Daniel 11:45 the beast-king meets his end on the temple mount.


No Daniel 12:1 is not referring to Daniel 11:44.

Daniel 11:44 is near the end of the 7 years, near the end of the great tribulation.

Daniel 11:45 is at the end of the 7 years, at the end of the great tribulation - when the beast-king meets his end on the temple mount - when Jesus returns and cast him and the false prophet alive into the lake of fire.
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Daniel 11:35 is not the time of the end.
Daniel 11:40 is the time of the end


"at the time of the end"

Daniel 11:40

Then at the time of the end, the king of the south will attack the king of the north. The king of the north will storm out with chariots, charioteers, and a vast navy. He will invade various lands and sweep through them like a flood.


There is no transition period The scripture continues from Daniel 11:1 through Daniel 11:45.

I've been watching the prophecy being fulfilled since 2003.My estimation there is only four more years till Daniel 11:44-12:2
 

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I've been watching the prophecy being fulfilled since 2003.My estimation there is only four more years till Daniel 11:44-12:2
Daniel 11:40-45 will be at the end of the 7 year 70th week. So more than four years are necessary.

The rapture/resurrection could happen at anytime. Perhaps this very hour.

Other than that possibility, what to look for is the little horn person, a Jew, becoming leader over a group of ten EU leaders.

As that will happen before the Gog/Magog event takes place. Which the Gog/Magog event will be followed by the 7 year 70th week.



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