Indisputable proof that the Premillennial theory contradicts Scripture

[CadyandZoe]

Gentiles were not your chosen race, but God included faithful obedient Gentiles with faithful obedient Jews to comprise His Chosen People.

Because God was not and is not a racist.

Relevant.

I told you earlier that if you prefer, think in terms of a chosen "family" if the term "race" bothers you. Israel is a chosen "race" because God chose Jacob and his family line to be his people. Contrary to your objection, this is without controversy.

When Jesus says that the apostles will sit on twelve thrones ruling over the twelve tribes of Israel everyone knows what he means by that. The twelve tribes are those people who were born to Reuben, Simeon, Levi, Judah, Dan, Naphtali, Gad, Asher, Issachar, Zebulun, Joseph, and Benjamin.

God commanded that only sons of Levi could serve as priests and that only a son of Judah, specifically a son of David, could be king of Israel. Joseph's inheritance was split between his sons Ephraim and Manasseh.

Deuteronomy 4:37 Because He loved your fathers, therefore He chose their descendants after them. And He personally brought you from Egypt by His great power,

Deuteronomy 7:6 For you are a holy people to the Lord your God; the Lord your God has chosen you to be a people for His own possession out of all the peoples who are on the face of the earth.

Deuteronomy 10:15 Yet on your fathers did the Lord set His affection to love them, and He chose their descendants after them, even you above all peoples, as it is this day.

Deuteronomy 14:2 For you are a holy people to the Lord your God, and the Lord has chosen you to be a people for His own possession out of all the peoples who are on the face of the earth.

Do you understand?

 

[CadyandZoe]

Was Rebekah a physical daughter of Abraham?

What's your point?

 

[covenantee]

What's your point?

What's your point?

 

[CadyandZoe]

My overall point still stands unaddressed: in one breath you are arguing for a future wholesale national salvation of all ethnic Israel, in the next, you are arguing: "God's promise to Israel will not include every descendant of Israel." You cannot have it both ways.

You are confusing me with someone else. The last time I argued for the wholesale national salvation of all ethnic Israel was about 20 years ago.

But I just showed what will take place and you have no comment about that?

 

[covenantee]

I told you earlier that if you prefer, think in terms of a chosen "family" if the term "race" bothers you. Israel is a chosen "race" because God chose Jacob and his family line to be his people.

God chose and chooses His faithful obedient remnant to be His People.

No others.

Because God is not a racist, contrary to your attempts to contort Him into one.

 

[Taken]

Was Rebekah a physical daughter of Abraham?

No…was Jesus a physical son of king David?

Luke 18:
[38] And he cried, saying, Jesus, thou Son of David, have mercy on me.

 

[KUWN]

the proof was on you. Not me.

I learned a long time ago that I want the proof to be on me. Because I want to know the truth. Don't rely on others.

 

[rebuilder 454]

I do not need to rebut

You said you had indesputable truth. You lied.

Nothing you said would make me want to switch my view. or think i needed to switch my view.

the proof was on you. Not me.

Yep
Grand canyon leap left to the wingsuit guys

 

[covenantee]

No…was Jesus a physical son of king David?

Certainly...many generations removed, but a physical descended Son.

 

[CadyandZoe]

What's your point?

The point is, the Bible never loses the distinction between the Tribes and the Gentiles. For example, consider the Seventh Chapter of Revelation, where it first speaks about the twelve tribes, and then it speaks about "a great multitude which no one could count, from every nation and all tribes and peoples and tongues . . ."

Revelation 7:1-8 discusses the sealing of the 144k, who are 12,000 from each Tribe of Judah. Revelation 7:9-12 discusses the song sung by a great multitude.

In other words, contrary to your view, the Bible never drops the distinction between the Twelve Tribes and the rest of the world.

 

[CadyandZoe]

Certainly...many generations removed, but a physical descended Son.

So then, God has commanded that kings of David must be descendants of David, which means that God has discriminated against everyone else.

 

[covenantee]

The point is, the Bible never loses the distinction between the Tribes and the Gentiles. For example, consider the Seventh Chapter of Revelation, where it first speaks about the twelve tribes, and then it speaks about "a great multitude which no one could count, from every nation and all tribes and peoples and tongues . . ."

Revelation 7:1-8 discusses the sealing of the 144k, who are 12,000 from each Tribe of Judah. Revelation 7:9-12 discusses the song sung by a great multitude.

In other words, contrary to your view, the Bible never drops the distinction between the Twelve Tribes and the rest of the world.

The Bible never loses the distinction between God's faithful obedient remnant, and those who are not.

Revelation 7
9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

So much for your racist God.

 

[Taken]

Certainly...many generations removed, but a physical descended Son.

Your view ?
Jesus…A human…or Likeness as A human?

 

[covenantee]

So then, God has commanded that kings of David must be descendants of David, which means that God has discriminated against everyone else.

Did God discriminate against the faithful obedient Jews and Gentiles of Israel?

 

[covenantee]

You view ?
Jesus…A human…or Likeness as A human?

Fully human and fully God.

 

[WPM]

You are confusing me with someone else. The last time I argued for the wholesale national salvation of all ethnic Israel was about 20 years ago.

No I'm not. You previously said:

His argument is based on the premise that one day God will cause natural Israel to become Spiritual Israel. At some time in the future, not only will God write his law on their hearts, he will circumcise their hearts such that they will not teach again, "Know the Lord" because they will all know him.

Paul is rhetorically asking whether that promise has failed. Why hasn't God done what he said he would do?

 

[Taken]

Fully human and fully God.

Okay thanks…
Disagree on that too..

God bless you.
Glory to God,

Taken

 

[ChristinaL]

Okay thanks…
Disagree on that too..

God bless you.
Glory to God,

Taken

Its an oxymoron to say that one can have God as a literal physical Father and yet not be fully man and fully God

 

[covenantee]

Okay thanks…
Disagree on that too..

God bless you.
Glory to God,

Taken

Doesn't change Rebekah's status.

And God bless you.
All praise, honor, and glory to Him.

 

[Taken]

Its an oxymoron to say that one can have God as a literal physical Father and yet not be fully man and fully God

A man’s mathematical equation
100% and 100% ? Formed from Dust and Sent forth out from God?

Phil 2:
[8] And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

Glory to God,
Taken