Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

[covenantee]

Who says? Your Left wing media?

Your Jews, whom you claim to love, but whom you actually believe are liars.

For shame.

 

[covenantee]

You ain't Israel!

I'm the Israel of God. Aren't you? Galatians 6:16

 

[David in NJ]

In your mind, how do they survive?

In my mind nothing can survive!!!

Therefore, i have been BLESSED by my Heavenly FATHER with the Mind of CHRIST.

Here is the Mind of CHRIST for us = Matt 4:4

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Question: How does a man receive the Mind of Christ???

 

[rebuilder 454]

In my mind nothing can survive!!!

Therefore, i have been BLESSED by my Heavenly FATHER with the Mind of CHRIST.

Here is the Mind of CHRIST for us = Matt 4:4

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Question: How does a man receive the Mind of Christ???

So you are saying you have no verses that we go through the trib????
Correct. We do not.
Nothing supporting it or " one coming"

 

[David in NJ]

So you are saying you have no verses that we go through the trib????
Correct. We do not.
Nothing supporting it or " one coming"

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[David in NJ]

So you are saying you have no verses that we go through the trib????
Correct. We do not.
Nothing supporting it or " one coming"

JESUS said you will go thru Tribulation, even the GT if you are still alive on earth during "those days" = GOSPEL

P.S> "those days" are here now/today and will soon begin the countdown once the Antichrist is revealed.

P.S> the countdown cannot be counted by days or by the hour as JESUS says: "no man knows the day or hour"

P.S> the OT Prophets and the Apostles ALL said you will go thru the Tribulation and the GT if you are here during "those days"

 

[dad]

You ever do a tiny bit of research?
Maybe drop the personal attacking.

You said this

"
You have no idea what you are talking about.
Zero idea. "

perhaps dealing with specifics might be better than your personal attacks. For example, show the research you pretend to have on something. :)

 

[dad]

JESUS said you will go thru Tribulation, even the GT if you are still alive on earth during "those days" = GOSPEL

He never said the great tribulation.

P.S> "those days" are here now/today and will soon begin the countdown once the Antichrist is revealed.

Many agree that this seems likely. However if the rapture is before the seven years and the antichrist is not revealed until later, why would we expect to see that guy?

P.S> the countdown cannot be counted by days or by the hour as JESUS says: "no man knows the day or hour"

Till the rapture! However the people of the tribulation will know the days because we were given the days from a certain time (abomination of desolation)

P.S> the OT Prophets and the Apostles ALL said you will go thru the Tribulation and the GT if you are here during "those days"

If they are here in those days then they were not raptured

 

[David in NJ]

He never said the great tribulation.

Many agree that this seems likely. However if the rapture is before the seven years and the antichrist is not revealed until later, why would we expect to see that guy?

Till the rapture! However the people of the tribulation will know the days because we were given the days from a certain time (abomination of desolation)

If they are here in those days then they were not raptured

He never said the great tribulation.

YES, HE Did = Matthew 24:15-22


“Therefore when you see the ‘abomination of desolation,’ spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place” (whoever reads, let him understand), “then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Let him who is on the housetop not go down to take anything out of his house. And let him who is in the field not go back to get his clothes. But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath.
For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be.
And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect’s sake those days will be shortened.

 

[amigo de christo]

Genesis 35:1 - Then God said to Jacob, “Arise, go up to Bethel and dwell there; and make an altar there to God, who appeared to you when you fled from the face of Esau your brother.”

Genesis 35:9-15 - Then God appeared to Jacob again, when he came from Padan Aram, and blessed him.
And God said to him, “Your name is Jacob; your name shall not be called Jacob anymore, but Israel shall be your name.”
So He called his name Israel.
Also God said to him: “I am God Almighty. Be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations(PLURAL)
shall proceed from you, and kings shall come from your body.
The land which I gave Abraham and Isaac I give to you; and to your descendants after you I give this land.”
Then God went up from him in the place where He talked with him.
So Jacob set up a pillar in the place where He talked with him, a pillar of stone; and he poured a drink offering on it, and he poured oil on it. And Jacob called the name of the place where God spoke with him, Bethel.

@Atarah @marks = what do you see?

@amigo de christo @Marvelloustime @ewq1938 @jeffweeder = what do you SEE

To be honest let me first say this about what i see concerning a Heck of a lot within even christendome
I see true lambs who know what is plainly written verses many who follow a greek that twists that which is plainly written .
For more info on that go look at most churches and sites .
Now back to your question . Jacob was the son of issac who was Son to abraham who BELIEVED GOD
and had seen the very gospel preached to him . Concering that PLURAL of nations .
IS his name not rightly so called jacob for he has decieved me . THOUGH it was ESSAU who sold the birth right . Lets not forget
ESSAU sold the birthright just as many today have sold the true birth right for a fake sorry pile of crap that wont save squat .
That plural of nations , EVEN THAT POINTED TO JESUS THE CHRIST , of WHOM abraham saw HIS DAY
and rejoiced far more than a fat kid over a birthday cake .
WHY did GOD rename jacob . WHY did he not just say ALL of jacob are not ................WHY DID GOD rename HIM
And how are we renamed as the PEOPLE of GOD . did man do this , OR DID GOD do this .
DID abraham call himself OUT , OR DID GOD call HIM OUT .
Now i dont know about most christains today , BUT IF THAT SAME GOD testifies of JESUS THE CHRIST
THEN I SUGGEST WE DO THE SAME and offer up this dead world that cannot save itself
that cannot reconcile itself , that cannot do squat except do as the first adam , JESUS THE CHRIST .
I REST MY CASE YA HONOR . ITS JESUS WHO THIS LAMB POINTS TOO . the rest is a vanity leading only
unto what the first man to the last man has earned , DEATH .
I hear a man try and give a muslim or any other human false hope , I EXPOSE THAT MAN . which sadly is a whole ton of
even christendom . YOU really need to help me out brother , we got wolves amongst us
we also have people who are being led astray by a very cunning serpent whose men love to plant ideas
and always those ideas give one the impression , the hope , the idea , that perhaps one does not have tobeleive in JESUS .
NOW I SHUN that crap to hades . We got wolves pardner . wolves amongst us who are trying
so hard to plant ideas that somehow give the impression its possible to even believe and do the great commandment
of TO LOVE YOUR GOD above all , EVEN without beleiving IN JESUS the CHRIST . I sure find that hard to believe
SEEING EVEN JESUS told the jews , HAD YOU LOVED GOD you would have LOVED ME . David
ITS HERE . THE REAL LIE is here and it grows amongst us . AND friend , I NEED HELP exposing it .

 

[David in NJ]

He never said the great tribulation.

Many agree that this seems likely. However if the rapture is before the seven years and the antichrist is not revealed until later, why would we expect to see that guy?

Till the rapture! However the people of the tribulation will know the days because we were given the days from a certain time (abomination of desolation)

If they are here in those days then they were not raptured

If they are here in those days then they were not raptured

BINGO

And when are we 'raptured'?

1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 = READ it and BELIEVE what the LORD says in it = every word and dare not add a single word to it or take away

 

[amigo de christo]

Then discard the pretrib rapture verses

Then pretend you actually have a single postrib rapture verse.

Then keep the lie and illusion that the " other comings" in the bible are actually Jesus in a magical transfiguration of different entities

The guy on a cloud with no horses or sword, magically has horses and a sword

here we go again . who said i followed post trib teachings or mid trib even .
I tried to tell us That by grace i was put into that bible and learned for myself .
IT is rather something that david sees what i say . you see i seen small errors even in post trib .
WE NEED to get a nose full of the bible for ourselves . OH THE RAPTURE IS REAL , dont think i dont believe in that .
I DO . I DO .
The wrath of GOD is real . the thing a lot of folks cannot see
IS that they occur on THE SAME DAY , THIS ONE TIME EVENT known as THE COMING OF THE LORD .
And something else most cannot see , WE SURE are alot farther along than most folks think.
SO marvel not when i say THE COMING OF THE LORD DOES DRAW VERY NIGH .
This strong delusion to believe a lie that so many think is coming
IT AINT COMING , no sir . ITS BEEN HERE and its growing like fire on dry grass that is fed by white gas
in winds of one hundred miles per hour . MOST OF CHRISTENDOM is now under its influence .
That which is of anti christ , THE MYSTERY of inquity , ITS NOT COMING , ITS HERE FELLOW
its BEEN HERE and its been at work too . AND it has led this people to merge
under a fat lie that promises we can attain PEACE N SAFETY . no sir , SUDDEN DESTRUCTION
is what many are about to attain . JESUS IS BEEN DENIED . But most folks think
this love that has denied HIM cometh of GOD and has made such a braod path to him . WE IS GETETING DUPED budrow .

 

[David in NJ]

here we go again . who said i followed post trib teachings or mid trib even .
I tried to tell us That by grace i was put into that bible and learned for myself .
IT is rather something that david sees what i say . you see i seen small errors even in post trib .
WE NEED to get a nose full of the bible for ourselves . OH THE RAPTURE IS REAL , dont think i dont believe in that .
I DO . I DO .
The wrath of GOD is real . the thing a lot of folks cannot see
IS that they occur on THE SAME DAY , THIS ONE TIME EVENT known as THE COMING OF THE LORD .
And something else most cannot see , WE SURE are alot farther along than most folks think.
SO marvel not when i say THE COMING OF THE LORD DOES DRAW VERY NIGH .
This strong delusion to believe a lie that so many think is coming
IT AINT COMING , no sir . ITS BEEN HERE and its growing like fire on dry grass that is fed by white gas
in winds of one hundred miles per hour . MOST OF CHRISTENDOM is now under its influence .
That which is of anti christ , THE MYSTERY of inquity , ITS NOT COMING , ITS HERE FELLOW
its BEEN HERE and its been at work too . AND it has led this people to merge
under a fat lie that promises we can attain PEACE N SAFETY . no sir , SUDDEN DESTRUCTION
is what many are about to attain . JESUS IS BEEN DENIED . But most folks think
this love that has denied HIM cometh of GOD and has made such a braod path to him . WE IS GETETING DUPED budrow .

IS that they occur on THE SAME DAY , THIS ONE TIME EVENT known as THE COMING OF THE LORD .

This is Post-Trib according the JESUS = Matthew 24:29-31 = "After the Trib of those days" = After means Post

We are Raptured Pre-Wrath on the SAME Day, the Day of the LORD, BEFORE HE pours out His Wrath.

1 Thess 1:10 - wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead—Jesus our deliverer from the coming wrath.

What place in scripture do you see anything different from Matt ch24 , 1 & 2 Thess, Daniel, 1 John, Revelation???

Do not hold back from sharing, just as i do not hold back from sharing with you.

 

[amigo de christo]

Genesis 35:1 - Then God said to Jacob, “Arise, go up to Bethel and dwell there; and make an altar there to God, who appeared to you when you fled from the face of Esau your brother.”

Genesis 35:9-15 - Then God appeared to Jacob again, when he came from Padan Aram, and blessed him.
And God said to him, “Your name is Jacob; your name shall not be called Jacob anymore, but Israel shall be your name.”
So He called his name Israel.
Also God said to him: “I am God Almighty. Be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations(PLURAL)
shall proceed from you, and kings shall come from your body.
The land which I gave Abraham and Isaac I give to you; and to your descendants after you I give this land.”
Then God went up from him in the place where He talked with him.
So Jacob set up a pillar in the place where He talked with him, a pillar of stone; and he poured a drink offering on it, and he poured oil on it. And Jacob called the name of the place where God spoke with him, Bethel.

@Atarah @marks = what do you see?

@amigo de christo @Marvelloustime @ewq1938 @jeffweeder = what do you SEE

Yes , by grace i do see . you know what else a lot of folks might miss .
Jacobs dream .
Even before He had come to laban . JACOB had him a dream , and HE SEEN SOMETHING .
What did jacob see in HIS dream . HE saw heaven opened and a ladder that connected heaven to earth
and on that ladder did the angels of GOD ascend and descend .
Now lets go have us a PEEK at WHAT JESUS says in the gospel of JOHN
verily hereafter ye shall see HEAVEN open
and the angels of GOD ascending and descening UPON THE SON OF MAN . WHO was that LADDER JACOB SEEN .
JESUS mentions exactly the key words himself .

 

[David in NJ]

Yes , by grace i do see . you know what else a lot of folks might miss .
Jacobs dream .
Even before He had come to laban . JACOB had him a dream , and HE SEEN SOMETHING .
What did jacob see in HIS dream . HE saw heaven opened and a ladder that connected heaven to earth
and on that ladder did the angels of GOD ascend and descend .
Now lets go have us a PEEK at WHAT JESUS says in the gospel of JOHN
verily hereafter ye shall see HEAVEN open
and the angels of GOD ascending and descening UPON THE SON OF MAN . WHO was that LADDER JACOB SEEN .
JESUS mentions exactly the key words himself .

And why did God give His DREAM to Jacob but not to Abraham and Isaac???

“Remember this, and show yourselves men;
Recall to mind, O you transgressors.
Remember the former things of old,
For I am God, and there is no other;
I am God, and there is none like Me,
Declaring the end from the beginning,
And from ancient times things that are not yet done,
Saying, ‘My counsel shall stand,
And I will do all My pleasure,’

Why did God give THis Specific DREAM to Jacob but not to Abraham and Isaac???

 

[Marvelloustime]

Yes , by grace i do see . you know what else a lot of folks might miss .
Jacobs dream .
Even before He had come to laban . JACOB had him a dream , and HE SEEN SOMETHING .
What did jacob see in HIS dream . HE saw heaven opened and a ladder that connected heaven to earth
and on that ladder did the angels of GOD ascend and descend .
Now lets go have us a PEEK at WHAT JESUS says in the gospel of JOHN
verily hereafter ye shall see HEAVEN open
and the angels of GOD ascending and descening UPON THE SON OF MAN . WHO was that LADDER JACOB SEEN .
JESUS mentions exactly the key words himself

@amigo de christo

 

[amigo de christo]

And why did God give His DREAM to Jacob but not to Abraham and Isaac???

“Remember this, and show yourselves men;
Recall to mind, O you transgressors.
Remember the former things of old,
For I am God, and there is no other;
I am God, and there is none like Me,
Declaring the end from the beginning,
And from ancient times things that are not yet done,
Saying, ‘My counsel shall stand,
And I will do all My pleasure,’

Why did God give THis Specific DREAM to Jacob but not to Abraham and Isaac???

well it did point to the gospel . but as far as why this specific dream ,
if you have an answer let us hear it my friend .

 

[dad]

YES, HE Did = Matthew 24:15-22


“Therefore when you see the ‘abomination of desolation,’ spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place” (whoever reads, let him understand), “then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Let him who is on the housetop not go down to take anything out of his house. And let him who is in the field not go back to get his clothes. But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath.
For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be.
And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect’s sake those days will be shortened.

When they see that event, THEN those people should boogie on out of there pronto. NOTHING to do with the long past rapture, sorry. I am amazed you would post such an unrelated verse.

 

[Marvelloustime]

Yes , by grace i do see . you know what else a lot of folks might miss .
Jacobs dream .
Even before He had come to laban . JACOB had him a dream , and HE SEEN SOMETHING .
What did jacob see in HIS dream . HE saw heaven opened and a ladder that connected heaven to earth
and on that ladder did the angels of GOD ascend and descend .
Now lets go have us a PEEK at WHAT JESUS says in the gospel of JOHN
verily hereafter ye shall see HEAVEN open
and the angels of GOD ascending and descening UPON THE SON OF MAN . WHO was that LADDER JACOB SEEN .
JESUS mentions exactly the key words himself .

@amigo de christo

 

[dad]

BINGO

And when are we 'raptured'?

1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 = READ it and BELIEVE what the LORD says in it = every word and dare not add a single word to it or take away

That is a passage about our rapture. Congrats on getting some scripture that is on target here. Too bad it has no timing as you allude to here. Ha