It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

[WPM]

Whoa! Magnificent post! I am so edified now! Wow!

Welcome to Pretrib online!!! Bereft of biblical arguments and Christian manners.

 

[covenantee]

This coming from someone who needs to learn discernment and bible interpretation

Explain how to discern and interpret an hallucination.

 

[WPM]

So...it's more of disparaging me as an intent? As if I have no wisdom?

But why in the world would you disparage Brothers in Christ just for having slightly different beliefs? Arent we supposed to edify each other and unify as one?

I checked your posts again and I cant see where you try to edify anyyone...??

What? There is no one more vulgar and demeaning to posters who disagree with them on this forum than you. So, no one takes your feigned words serious. Here is edification according to you and your fellow Pretribbers:

all of you post tribbers still have time to repent of your bull crap and get your eyes upon Jesus.

Pull your panties back down outta your crack for now about it has to be pretrib. I'll get to that soon enough, lol.

Dont twist my words Satan.

that's not your agenda here! Satan!

You should seek someone to lay hands hands on you and see if you can get that evil spirit cast out of you.

I like to be very direct with the minions of the enemy so they know who they're dealing with.

Keep it up. Time is short for the ones serving darkness.

it isnt really them that we're talking to when they act like that. It's the evil spirits that they are oppressed by (or possessed by?) Just like it says in Ephesians. That is...if Ephesians is true, LOL!

Wow, look at that. Jerico started a good thread, and it's like the enemy dispatched a platoon of evil ones who seek to shut it down and derail it.

an evil band of spirits instruct people to shut that thread down!

I think all you evil spirits here to disrupt and distract from the truth have shot yourself in the foot in this thread.

evil spirits say, rapture doctrine is wrong

we wrestle not with flesh and blood people. But with principalities and powers and evil spirits. So it aint even his fault, it is the evil spirits which are oppressing him into being like he is.

We're not arguing with you post trib people, but with the spirits behind you.

You rode that beast/doctrine that carried you into the desert and I slew it. Now you are a foot. Time to get with it. Get that Bible out and enjoy the ride. Be free and agree with Jesus and His Holy Book.

Get thee behind me satan.

We would be better off talking to cult members than these nasties

My prayers for you, you get to be present on the earth during the tribulations and wrath sent down from heaven AS you contend is your hearts desire… I’ll be with Christ’s Church, not looking down, not thinking of you…

Stop your whining…I am happy for you, and hope you live long enough to get to enjoy Gods tribulations and wrath to be sent down from heaven.

That's just like the gay guys and the trans supporters and gbtzers and all of their ilk.

Are you and him gay too? You have the same spirit. You guys sound just them guys. Ok go on crusade against me boi.

All that egg on his face and his remedy is to smear more on it.

What a hoot.

Let's calm down and try to remedy your facesmear with all that gooey egg.

We can start with retrieving your needed omissions.

You are sitting there with so much egg on your face you can not see that your house is on fire, but you turn to your air purifier for a ridiculous remedy.

you have no heart.

Gaslighter.

I don’t have a one-liner toddler version for you.

I'm pretty sure his nickname is Christmas as he is slow as Christmas

You are Kukoo.

There's that 60 IQ shining through for you.

you have the comprehension of a 60 IQ man

Gossip on Mamm...Have you been staying home with the ladies too much or what?

Dont debate like a woman. If you (continue) to not offer a correction to the truth makes it seem like you debate like a woman.

No offense brother, but you talk like a woman.

You posting scriptures that dont even match what you're saying and then getting frustrated and popping off....is exactly how women talk

You could challenge it to me Wilma but I guess you aint that bright?

But oh no you dont want to discuss any doctrine all you want to do is to sling insults. Just like a Wilma.

Wilma, you almost sound scripted sometimes, you know that?

Oh grow a pair this is how men talk. You want to play a vicitim card for him because what I said? Maaaann, brother you hang out with the women too much or something.

You showed your true colors. You & your wife and your son?

I've been trying for days to get your wife to turn to the book of Daniel and she refuses.

Then you weirdos say they have no scripture...

Every post of yours is now trashy ghetto juvenile nothing-ness.

As you demonstrate manfully.. ...

When you get push back ,you go to default trigger mode and show us your ghetto talk.

SI has gone total ghetto mode.

It is comical imagining him at a podium and cussing and screaming when someone challenges his error.

" OK ladies and gentlemen, we will go to a commercial, as we sort this out"

...all the time he is screaming in the background... ...

Easy to see why God Himself said the Carnal Mind is against Him…the same holds true of men against men!

Pity on you.

Matt 13:[14] And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:

It is beyond your comprehension BECAUSE it is “EASIER” to simply maintain your stubbornness and REJECT, rather than to “DISCOVER” the meaning of Jesus’ teaching, and HOW TO, understand the meaning of Jesus’ teaching.It’s not rocket-science.

Well, what was your career? I know it was nothing technical. I know it was nothing in mathematics. I think most likely just manual labor. Small chance of sales but it would be at a shoe store or target, Best Buy of the like. Not likely you would sell anything like air conditioners or such things.

From your responses I can tell you are retired or without a job, and you when you did work it was likely a manual labor position.

Here are those attackers:

@MA2444
@Taken
@rebuilder 454
@The Light

And guess what? Not one single apology from one of you! Shame on you Pretribbers!

 

[WPM]

Revelation 3:10 is clear that we are kept from not preserved through Tribulation. Most The church isnt even IN Revelation need I remind you? Its all Trib saints and they are not part of the church.

I will give you 15 solid reason why this reasoning is ridiculous and should be swiftly rejected.

(1) The word “Church,” as in the elect redeemed (born again) Church, is not mentioned anywhere in Revelation. There are only references to the local churches (which includes saved and unsaved) in Asia Minor in the last book in the Bible.
(2) The whole book of Revelation was written to local churches in Asia Minor 2,000 years ago for the expressed purpose of encouraging them in their hour of trial.
(3) Words, terms, titles and descriptions that are repeatedly used elsewhere in the New Testament to describe the Church of Jesus Christ are used regularly in Revelation 4 to 19 to describe the true Church of Jesus Christ.
(4) The apostate “churches” and their phony believers miss the rapture and enter this supposed 7 year tribulation, according to Pretrib – but the non-mention of the apostate “churches” must prove they are not on earth either. Where have they gone to?
(5) The word “Church” is not found in Revelation 4 in the Pretrib rapture
(6) The word “Church” is not found in the heavenly passages between Revelation 4 and 19. Using Pretrib logic, then they must not be in heaven either.
(7) The word “Church” is not found in Revelation 19 for the Pretrib 3rd Coming. So, they cannot be part of that supposed event.
(8) The word “Church” not found in Revelation 20 in the millennium. They cannot therefore be part of that period of time.
(9) The word ‘“Church” not found in Revelation 21 in the eternal state. They cannot therefore be part of the eternal state.
(10) The word ‘“Church” not found in many places throughout the New Testament.
(11) The word ‘“Church” is not found in all the popular Pretrib proof texts.
(12) What about the absence of the word “Jew” and “Hebrew” from Revelation 4-19, and the absence of the word “Israel” after Revelation 7.
(13) What about the non-mention of the popular Pretrib term ‘tribulation saints’ in Revelation 4-19?
(14) Whilst “the Church” has been caught up at the coming of Christ, even Pretrib teaches that local churches continue to exist after the rapture! Why are these churches not mentioned?
(15) Does the strange silence of the word “Christian” in Revelation 1-3 not prove Christians are not present or in view?

 

[rebuilder 454]

So there are mortal believers on earth who enter your millennium?

Only the army is destroyed.
You got something saying different?

 

[rebuilder 454]

What? There is no one more vulgar and demeaning to posters who disagree with them on this forum than you. So, no one takes your feigned words serious. Here is edification according to you
Here are those attackers:

@MA2444
@Taken
@rebuilder 454
@The Light

And guess what? Not one single apology from one of you! Shame on you Pretribbers!

I guess that settles it.
Now you can personal attack us as a consensus.
You just gave all your buddies a personal attack mandate.
All of you go crying when we pushback.
Now go back and look at the sleaze you guys posted, and got pushback.
Then you go crying.

 

[WPM]

I guess that settles it.
Now you can personal attack us as a consensus.
You just gave all your buddies a personal attack mandate.
All of you go crying when we pushback.
Now go back and look at the sleaze you guys posted, and got pushback.
Then you go crying.

No, we are Christians. We do not talk like that. It is grievous to us. That is what the Holy Spirit does when He enters in. He brings conviction. He brings restraint. Why do none of you feel that?

 

[WPM]

Only the army is destroyed.
You got something saying different?

So, are there any mortal believers that enter into your future millennium?

 

[WPM]

Only the army is destroyed.
You got something saying different?

So, are there any mortal believers that enter into your future millennium?

 

[WPM]

the scriptures regarding "in the air" were a dumbed down reference to heaven, written in a way that the common people would understand better.

Talk about manipulating Scripture to support false teaching. This is the only way that Pretrib will fit!

 

[rwb]

I HAVE DEFENED what I know to be truth. You are just too dense to see. Dont waste my time any further, I will not answer

No! You are foolishly defending what you have been TAUGHT! You cannot make a defense from the Word of God yourself, because your unbiblical doctrine is not found FROM Scripture, but FORCED upon the Word of God. It's one thing to be deceived, but God help those who would choose to be a deceiver!

 

[ChristinaL]

No! You are foolishly defending what you have been TAUGHT! You cannot make a defense from the Word of God yourself, because your unbiblical doctrine is not found FROM Scripture, but FORCED upon the Word of God. It's one thing to be deceived, but God help those who would choose to be a deceiver!

Another fool to ignore.... do not dare call a lie what I have learned from Christ

 

[rwb]

Being confident and firm in the truth doesnt make me nasty. I will answer as I always have when it comes to defending the truth and if you dont like it, leave. I already told you to stop wasting my time if you are going to act completely dense as a rock

You are NOT defending the truth! You are trying desperately to defend a lie! If you could defend your doctrine you would be able to explain the contradictions and confusion your doctrine forces into the Word of God. You choose rather not to even try to address the inconsistencies your doctrine imposes on the Bible. Why? Because you cannot, therefore you will not even try to harmonize Scripture. The only dense rocks I find in these forums are those who REFUSE to see truth that is presented to them. They would rather ignore, and pretend their doctrine is in harmony, and that makes them liars and deceivers!

 

[WPM]

You are NOT defending the truth! You are trying desperately to defend a lie! If you could defend your doctrine you would be able to explain the contradictions and confusion your doctrine forces into the Word of God. You choose rather not to even try to address the inconsistencies your doctrine imposes on the Bible. Why? Because you cannot, therefore you will not even try to harmonize Scripture. The only dense rocks I find in these forums are those who REFUSE to see truth that is presented to them. They would rather ignore, and pretend their doctrine is in harmony, and that makes them liars and deceivers!

Exactly, anyone who disagrees with her is a fool. When she cannot refute the many inspired texts that forbid Pretrib presented to her she just runs and throws insults.

 

[MA2444]

What? You are not deceiving anyone but yourself with your crocodile tears, your religious hatred, your verbal vulgarity and constant projection. There is no one more vulgar and demeaning to posters on this forum. Here is edification (along with your frustrated friends) to you:




























































































Here are those attackers:

@MA2444
@Taken
@rebuilder 454
@The Light

And guess what? Not one single apology from one of you! Shame on you Pretribbers!

Have I offended you brother? I'm sorry. But this seems to be all you post tribbers want, to argue and bicker instead of discussing scripture.

I wonder why that is? Eh?

There. I apologized. Now you can wait 10 minutes/2 pages and say they never even apologize. Tryng to start a fight.

You are NOT defending the truth! You are trying desperately to defend a lie! If you could defend your doctrine you would be able to explain the contradictions and confusion your doctrine forces into the Word of God. You choose rather not to even try to address the inconsistencies your doctrine imposes on the Bible. Why? Because you cannot, therefore you will not even try to harmonize Scripture. The only dense rocks I find in these forums are those who REFUSE to see truth that is presented to them. They would rather ignore, and pretend their doctrine is in harmony, and that makes them liars and deceivers!

Ok I'll ask you and see if you will answer. Davieboy from NJ wont answer me.

If pretrib is wrog and evil, then explain to me the nature of the evil that it is? WHy is it evil?

 

[WPM]

Have I offended you brother? I'm sorry. But this seems to be all you post tribbers want, to argue and bicker instead of discussing scripture.

I wonder why that is? Eh?

There. I apologized. Now you can wait 10 minutes/2 pages and say they never even apologize. Tryng to start a fight.


Ok I'll ask you and see if you will answer. Davieboy from NJ wont answer me.

If pretrib is wrog and evil, then explain to me the nature of the evil that it is? WHy is it evil?

Ok. Thank you. Are you going to remove your LOL emoji as a sign of your sincerity?

You are the 1st Pretribber to apologize here in years. I appreciate. Let us keep this biblical. Let us move on!

I never used the word "evil" to describe Pretrib. It is false teaching. It is not in the Book.

Scripture only outlines one single future coming, not two. Every Scripture we look at predicts a climactic coming of Christ, which sees the rescue of all the elect and the destruction of all the wicked, the removal of the bondage of corruption and the introduction of perfection and eternal bliss.

 

[MA2444]

Ok. Thank you. Are you going to remove your LOL emoji as a sign of your sincerity?

You are the 1st Pretribber to apologize here in years. I appreciate. Let us keep this biblical. Let us move on!

I never used the word "evil" to describe Pretrib. It is false teaching. It is not in the Book.

Scripture only outlines one single future coming, not two. Every Scripture we look at predicts a climactic coming of Christ, which sees the rescue of all the elect and the destruction of all the wicked, the removal of the bondage of corruption and the introduction of perfection and eternal bliss.

No, I am not going to remove anything or let you start dictating to me what I should do to meet your standards. So I was in cheerful mood, big deal!

All of your buddies are using the term evil to talk about pre trib. Arent you their Pastor? They had to get it somewhere.

Let us move on with scripture? But you wont. You havent addressed a single scripture that has been posted by a pre tribber.

Oh btw, are you going to apologize also? Or is that just a thing to get us to say, and then a few posts from now you say that we admiited there is no pre trib rapture? That's what I have come to expect from you...

 

[ChristinaL]

No, I am not going to remove anything or let you start dictating to me what I should do to meet your standards. So I was in cheerful mood, big deal!

All of your buddies are using the term evil to talk about pre trib. Arent you their Pastor? They had to get it somewhere.

Let us move on with scripture? But you wont. You havent addressed a single scripture that has been posted by a pre tribber.

Oh btw, are you going to apologize also? Or is that just a thing to get us to say, and then a few posts from now you say that we admiited there is no pre trib rapture? That's what I have come to expect from you...

And they call me nasty....really the worst behaved people on boards like this are those who reject the truth- especially bcz they cant back themselves up and cant address our proofs

 

[WPM]

No, I am not going to remove anything or let you start dictating to me what I should do to meet your standards. So I was in cheerful mood, big deal!

All of your buddies are using the term evil to talk about pre trib. Arent you their Pastor? They had to get it somewhere.

Let us move on with scripture? But you wont. You havent addressed a single scripture that has been posted by a pre tribber.

Oh btw, are you going to apologize also? Or is that just a thing to get us to say, and then a few posts from now you say that we admiited there is no pre trib rapture? That's what I have come to expect from you...

I was testing your sincerity. You are free to do what you wish.

Posttribbers have addressed all the texts you have submitted in great detail and the posts have been skipped around by Pretribbers.

So, can you present one Scripture text that teaches a rapture of the Church followed by a tribulation, followed by third coming?

 

[WPM]

And they call me nasty....really the worst behaved people on boards like this are those who reject the truth- especially bcz they cant back themselves up and cant address our proofs

We reject your "truth" (which is biblical error). You are yet to present one single compelling biblical argument. All we are getting is your infantile rants.