IS THE REFORMED FAITH BIBLICAL?

[amigo de christo]

No problem.

Question:
Are you and @Marvelloustime glued together??


(he seems to follow you around)

at the risk of offending the mulit gender generation , that he is a she .
And we have been reading together for a few years now . you would be amazed
at what can occur if folks would just read the bible for themselves and even together .
Very peaceful it is and in time much can be learned .
I invite you to pm everone on this site and ask them what they think about me .
Then after hearing their answers you might scratch your head as to why i have so many likes . Kinda funny .
in fact i would invite you to pm all in private and perhaps even ask them
the question who do you all think is perhaps the most dangerous , or maybe most judgmental person
Do not be suprised if the claim be its me . And by golly i happen to know
we got a few who even preach a false gospel . but their names wont be the first . mine will be .
You might truly pray about this . You go to GOD and you pray
and you ask him to give you discernement about me . Whether i be the most judgemntal hateful person
OR , OR i am i just doing all by grace for the good of all the people who i DO love . you take it to GOD and you pray
and you see what you hear .and you read the bible and if i be in error show me by the bible my error .
I have always said test all , but when we test let it be by the bible and not emotions .

 

[GodsGrace]

There have always been differing opinions on doctrine.
The Reformed faith is no different.

The difference is that today (and at times in the past) believers are marginalized by other believers.
That is what you are doing here.

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1. I'm not afraid of marginalizing St. SteVen

You see, I believe the bible teaches A TRUTH.
As I've been trying to get through to you many times now....
there can only be ONE TRUTH.

If there is more than one truth --- it means there is not truth
or
we cannot know the truth.

If I hear a doctrine that goes DIRECTLY against the Word of God and the NATURE of God....
I'm willing to stand up and proclaim it --- not sit idly by and let everyone say whatever they desire to say.

2. I'm nobody.
I don't divide the Body of Christ....

Those that teach gnostic beliefs (which is where calvinism comes from) or other weird concepts that ARE NOT CHRISTIAN are dividing themselves.

Just to make VERY CLEAR....
I'm not saying some are not saved....
I'm only stating their doctrine is ubiblical.


3. You mention differing doctrine and opinions.
Let's leave opinion out of this - I don't ever really care about personal opinion but only scripture.

So Doctrine:
Assembly of God has doctrine I don't agree with - others may or may not.
The Nazarene church has a doctrine I can't agree with.
The CC has several doctrine I can't agree with.
LDS have a doctrine I'm not 100% sure about - but God will not judge us on our doctrine.

Are you stating that you believe the difference between REFORMED FAITH/CALVINISM and traditional Christianity to be a DOCTRINE??!!
IOW, you believe reformed faith is A DOCTRINE??

If so, you don't understand what a doctrine is.
I'm not here to teach anyone anything....you could find out the difference and then we
could discuss some more if you wish.

 

[GodsGrace]

Right. Since you are in charge of "the broader context"? (the whole Bible view)
Your opinion is sovereign over all others. (doctrinal tyranny)

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I don't know to what you're referring....
And I don't have OPINIONS....I post scripture and do my best to exegete it as traditional Christianity exegetes scripture.

 

[GodsGrace]

Nonsense.

Just because you don't accept a doctrine doesn't make it unbiblical.

If a doctrine has biblical support, it is biblical. Period.
You can disagree, but you can't claim it is unbiblical with any intellectual honesty.

Do you read the Bible with blinders on?

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Look SS, I don't insult you.
If y ou want to come here just to do that to ME,
and keep repeating the same old post over and over again...
then I invite you to go post in one of the many threads that you start and don't waste your time coming here.
I like serious discussion and I'm not getting any from you.

Calvinists do not believe in free will.
Please show me scripture that supports the fact that man has no free will.

You could do that ---
or you could stop wasting time.

 

[GodsGrace]

at the risk of offending the mulit gender generation , that he is a she .

Ah!
Marvelloustime is una amiga de Cristo
OK.

And we have been reading together for a few years now . you would be amazed
at what can occur if folks would just read the bible for themselves and even together .
Very peaceful it is and in time much can be learned .

Agreed.

I invite you to pm everone on this site and ask them what they think about me .
Then after hearing their answers you might scratch your head as to why i have so many likes . Kinda funny .
in fact i would invite you to pm all in private and perhaps even ask them
the question who do you all think is perhaps the most dangerous , or maybe most judgmental person
Do not be suprised if the claim be its me . And by golly i happen to know
we got a few who even preach a false gospel . but their names wont be the first . mine will be .

But then why do you get so many likes?
LOL

You might truly pray about this . You go to GOD and you pray
and you ask him to give you discernement about me . Whether i be the most judgemntal hateful person
OR , OR i am i just doing all by grace for the good of all the people who i DO love . you take it to GOD and you pray
and you see what you hear .and you read the bible and if i be in error show me by the bible my error .
I have always said test all , but when we test let it be by the bible and not emotions .

Well, I'm being called a few names myself on this very thread.
Doesn't really bother me.
My conscience is clear and my purpose pure.
My conscience being formed by God's laws,
and my purpose to direct person's to the One True God.

There is only One God.
He has a Nature and a Character (human terms of course).
This God is not properly represented in reformed theology.
Christians should find this disturbing.

 

[GodsGrace]

at the risk of offending the mulit gender generation , that he is a she .
And we have been reading together for a few years now . you would be amazed
at what can occur if folks would just read the bible for themselves and even together .
Very peaceful it is and in time much can be learned .
I invite you to pm everone on this site and ask them what they think about me .
Then after hearing their answers you might scratch your head as to why i have so many likes . Kinda funny .
in fact i would invite you to pm all in private and perhaps even ask them
the question who do you all think is perhaps the most dangerous , or maybe most judgmental person
Do not be suprised if the claim be its me . And by golly i happen to know
we got a few who even preach a false gospel . but their names wont be the first . mine will be .
You might truly pray about this . You go to GOD and you pray
and you ask him to give you discernement about me . Whether i be the most judgemntal hateful person
OR , OR i am i just doing all by grace for the good of all the people who i DO love . you take it to GOD and you pray
and you see what you hear .and you read the bible and if i be in error show me by the bible my error .
I have always said test all , but when we test let it be by the bible and not emotions .

I just realized that you have more likes than posts!
Almost twice as much.
I think you beat @Lambano and he's doing pretty good !

 

[amigo de christo]

I just realized that you have more likes than posts!
Almost twice as much.
I think you beat @Lambano and he's doing pretty good !


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Now go to and ask every single person on this site
that if they were to say who is possibly the most judgmental and worst .
My bet is most will say me . Isnt that something .

 

[amigo de christo]

Ah!
Marvelloustime is una amiga de Cristo
OK.


Agreed.

But then why do you get so many likes?
LOL

Well, I'm being called a few names myself on this very thread.
Doesn't really bother me.
My conscience is clear and my purpose pure.
My conscience being formed by God's laws,
and my purpose to direct person's to the One True God.

There is only One God.
He has a Nature and a Character (human terms of course).
This God is not properly represented in reformed theology.
Christians should find this disturbing.

it aint cause most folks like it . that is for sure and for certain .
I get so tickled when i see it . I have never once posted for a like .
i just post the truth and most reject it . not all , but most do .

 

[amigo de christo]

Ah!
Marvelloustime is una amiga de Cristo
OK.


Agreed.

But then why do you get so many likes?
LOL

Well, I'm being called a few names myself on this very thread.
Doesn't really bother me.
My conscience is clear and my purpose pure.
My conscience being formed by God's laws,
and my purpose to direct person's to the One True God.

There is only One God.
He has a Nature and a Character (human terms of course).
This God is not properly represented in reformed theology.
Christians should find this disturbing.

she is not me . she is as you said a friend of mine . we read the bible together .
its so lovely to just read it without an agenda or doctrines of men . Just to read and to embrace the lovely truth of every word .
THIS IS WHY I BEG plead , holler and warn and remind and do all i can to get folks
to read it for themselves and NOT through the lens of their denomination . THINGS can easily and quickly
be cleared up if we did this .

 

[St. SteVen]

3. You mention differing doctrine and opinions.
Let's leave opinion out of this - I don't ever really care about personal opinion but only scripture.

So Doctrine:
Assembly of God has doctrine I don't agree with - others may or may not.
The Nazarene church has a doctrine I can't agree with.
The CC has several doctrine I can't agree with.
LDS have a doctrine I'm not 100% sure about - but God will not judge us on our doctrine.

None of it biblical? - LOL

Are you stating that you believe the difference between REFORMED FAITH/CALVINISM and traditional Christianity to be a DOCTRINE??!!
IOW, you believe reformed faith is A DOCTRINE??

Of course the Reformed faith is doctrine. Biblical doctrine.
I don't have to agree with it for it to be biblical. Biblical = supported by scripture.
Do those of the Reformed faith provide biblical support for their doctrine?

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[St. SteVen]

Calvinists do not believe in free will.
Please show me scripture that supports the fact that man has no free will.

You cannot come to God of your own free will. You must be drawn.

John 6:44 NIV
“No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them,
and I will raise them up at the last day.

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[St. SteVen]

Look SS, I don't insult you.

That's for me to say, not you.

Claiming that your personal faith is biblical and all others are unbiblical is insulting to EVERYONE outside your tribe.

Doctrinolatry - tribalism and division in the Body of Christ

A follow-up to my Bibliolatry topic. Doctrine becomes an idol when it is used to support tribalism and cause division in the Body of Christ. Since doctrinal unity is impossible, allowing others to hold their own doctrinal opinions may be the only way to prevent division. ]

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[Johann]

You cannot come to good of your own free will. You must be drawn.

John 6:44 NIV
“No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them,
and I will raise them up at the last day.

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The Arrival of the Greeks (John 12:20-22): Some Greeks, likely Gentile God-fearers, come to Jerusalem during the Passover and express a desire to see Jesus. This signals a turning point where Jesus’ message begins to reach beyond just the Jews, symbolizing the global scope of His mission.

2. Jesus Speaks of His Death (John 12:23-28): Upon hearing this request, Jesus responds by saying, “The hour has come that the Son of Man should be glorified” (John 12:23). This marks a significant moment because, throughout His ministry, Jesus had often said that His "hour" had not yet come. Now, the hour has arrived-He is speaking of His impending death and the glory that will follow through His resurrection and ascension.

Jesus uses the metaphor of a grain of wheat falling into the ground and dying in order to bear much fruit (v. 24). He then calls His followers to lose their life in this world in order to gain eternal life, speaking of the cost of discipleship.

3. The Voice from Heaven (John 12:27-30): Jesus acknowledges the deep anguish in His soul as He faces the cross but reaffirms His purpose: “For this purpose I came to this hour” (v. 27). When Jesus prays, “Father, glorify Your name,” a voice from heaven responds, “I have both glorified it and will glorify it again” (v. 28), indicating that Jesus’ upcoming sacrifice will bring glory to God.

4. The Universal Drawing (John 12:31-33): Jesus then speaks of judgment coming upon the world and the defeat of the ruler of this world (Satan). In John 12:32, He says, “And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all peoples to Myself.” The phrase “lifted up” refers to His crucifixion, and John clarifies this in the next verse: “This He said, signifying by what death He would die” (v. 33).

Jesus’ lifting up on the cross would be the means by which He would draw all people—not just Jews but also Gentiles—toward salvation. His death would make reconciliation with God possible for all humanity, fulfilling the Old Testament prophecies of the Messiah being a light to the Gentiles (Isaiah 49:6).

5. The People’s Misunderstanding (John 12:34-36): Those listening to Jesus are confused because they understood the Messiah to remain forever and not to die. They ask, “Who is this Son of Man?” (v. 34). Jesus responds by urging them to believe in the light while they still have it, referring to Himself as the light of the world, emphasizing the urgency of faith before His departure.
John 12:32 encapsulates Jesus’ role in offering salvation to the world. His crucifixion (being "lifted up") would have universal implications, drawing all peoples—Jew and Gentile alike—to Himself, signifying that His death would be the means by which humanity could be reconciled to God.

J.

 

[GodsGrace]

it aint cause most folks like it . that is for sure and for certain .
I get so tickled when i see it . I have never once posted for a like .
i just post the truth and most reject it . not all , but most do .

Something came to mind...
Most young persons are abandoning church....
both Protestants and Catholics.
Know which churches ARE growing?
The ones that hold firm to what the bible teaches...
the ones that hold firm to moral truth and teach this.
The young want direction, at least those that want a church, not the relativism
that this current world is teaching. They want something they can hold on to and trust.
They know there's something more than just material in the universe - there's something
transcendent, and they want to be a part of that.

 

[GodsGrace]

None of it biblical? - LOL


Of course the Reformed faith is doctrine. Biblical doctrine.
I don't have to agree with it for it to be biblical. Biblical = supported by scripture.
Do those of the Reformed faith provide biblical support for their doctrine?

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I give up SS.
If you don't know what biblical means,,,
maybe someone else on this thread could help you.

I'm not explaining it again.

 

[GodsGrace]

You cannot come to God of your own free will. You must be drawn.

John 6:44 NIV
“No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them,
and I will raise them up at the last day.

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What does DRAW mean in John 6:44?

 

[GodsGrace]

That's for me to say, not you.

Claiming that your personal faith is biblical and all others are unbiblical is insulting to EVERYONE outside your tribe.

Doctrinolatry - tribalism and division in the Body of Christ

A follow-up to my Bibliolatry topic. Doctrine becomes an idol when it is used to support tribalism and cause division in the Body of Christ. Since doctrinal unity is impossible, allowing others to hold their own doctrinal opinions may be the only way to prevent division. ]

www.christianityboard.com

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Ummm.
I don't have a PERSONAL FAITH.

I believe in the teachings of Jesus, Paul, etc.
I believe in the creeds.
I believe in the Trinity.
I believe in the Hypostatic Union

I believe in everything the early church taught.
It kept all the true teachings IN THE CHURCH
and discarded all the UNBIBLICAL teachings that were
confirmed by the OT and the writings of the NT (before it was actually assembled).

I don't have a tribe.
I belong to a church that is world-wide...
The Christian Church.

And if you feel insulted because I KNOW that you cannot make up your own religion and then call yourself a
Christian...that is on you.

If you care to discuss John 6:44, I'm willing.

But I will no longer respond to your silly posts that address me personally.

 

[St. SteVen]

I give up SS.
If you don't know what biblical means,,,
maybe someone else on this thread could help you.

It's simple to understand.

If biblical support is given, it's biblical.

Is that so hard to understand?

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[St. SteVen]

St. SteVen said:
You cannot come to God of your own free will. You must be drawn.

John 6:44 NIV
“No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them,
and I will raise them up at the last day.

What does DRAW mean in John 6:44?

It means against your will.

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[St. SteVen]

I don't have a PERSONAL FAITH.

I hope that isn't true.

Haven't you met Jesus yet?

I believe in everything the early church taught.

No you don't.

"The Encyclopedia of Religious Knowledge" by Schaff-Herzog, 1908, volume 12, page 96 German theologian- Philip Schaff, Editor: "In the first five or six centuries of Christianity there were six theological schools, of which four (Alexandria, Antioch, Caesarea, and Edessa, or Nisibis) were Universalist, one (Ephesus) accepted conditional immortality; one (Carthage or Rome) taught endless punishment of the wicked. Other theological schools are mentioned as founded by Universalists, but their actual doctrine on this subject is not known."

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