Strength and Honor: Triumphing over Feminism

[Mink57]

You mean like feminists wanting reproductive rights for women only?

Depends on what you mean by that.

Plus, I'm not exactly in the loop on ALL of the rights that feminists assert.

 

[Wrangler]

Eve was designed by God to be Adam's helper. Women in general were not designed to be ALL man's or ANY man's helper because, per JESUS, many men and women decide NOT to marry.

But being a 'helper' doesn't mean that one is inferior.

Your false reliance on choices of users driving the intent of the design show again. Women were designed to help men. And this is one man and one women model, not all married to all. Women's design is not different from the first woman's design.

It is a general truth and no one said anthing about inferior. The Bible admits women are weaker. However, women were not designed for strength but procreation. Going back to POU, design intent, women are far superior in terms of giving birth to men.

You must have a complex, which explains why you fight men's leadership role so hard. And why you cannot answer the question of who decides in feminism when there is a disagreement. It depends on what?

 

[Wrangler]

No, I have a problem with people who make a 'truth' claim based on their own opinion.

You can't handle the truth when it conflicts with your opinion.

It is a well established fact that feminism has led to more deaths than communism and fascism combined. But your worship of Baal blinds you to this truth.

 

[Mink57]

I know, the exception to every rule is here! Ok, your on point then. Lol.

The head of a round table is whereever he sits.

Nope. Not buyin' it. There doesn't have to be a 'head'.

I am a Man and I am the Citation for this because I am a Man.

In other words, you can't prove your point. Got it!

The only reason we ever cross train together is because we were a team. Because she had to learn to shoot a gun does not mean she is now the primary protector. It means she is a more efficient helper because we bothered enough to train.

Team is good, but why does there HAVE to be a 'primary' protector? Why can't simply being a team be good enough?

I was with her 26 years and we had several close calls but she was never primary protector. I saved her sweet butt several times. Wanna hear those stories? lol.

Perhaps another time. I once pulled my late husband out of the way of NYC cab. Had he taken one more step in the street, he would have been hit (he was texting and not paying attention). Does that count as saving his butt?

Think I even got a 'thanks' for that?

 

[MA2444]

She was made to be THE man's helper. And that IS a direct quote in more than ONE version of the Bible.

"The LORD God also said, “It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make for him a suitable helper". God created Eve as a helper for HIM; not THEM. HIM.

Yes of course but all men need a woman? Tem. him? Whoever.

Where's YOUR quote that says, "ALL" man's?"

Lol. That's how women think in todays world, lol Women come and go and give them selves to whoever they please. What I meant was all marriages. I spoke in the context of a wife. which is to be for one man and thats how it works. So all men (who are married and have wives.)

Why not? Even in Jesus' time, men didn't want to be FORCED to take on the responsibility for their brother's children, if his brother died and left behind a wife with kids!

Because those girls are for the streets. They are not Wifely material. No 304's thank you...

I never said half or more. I simply said 'many'. With 8 billion people on the planet, even 1% of that is still 'many'.
Plus at least some people may remain chaste for reasons that have nothing to do with God.

As for how many people remain chaste well...probably many.

Probably 10 at least huh?

 

[Wrangler]

Men help women do that, too. At least, they're supposed to, without beating it into her head.

The misandry is palpable. My wife had led me to glorify God.


1 Peter 3:1
Wives and Husbands
3 Likewise, wives, be subject to your own husbands, so that even if some do not obey the word, they may be won without a word by the conduct of their wives

It was beautiful. It was divine. My wife won me over to Christ by her submissive conduct. Beating it into her head is not the sentiment. Gratitude is. Your posts lack that humble and grateful quality. Sad to see.

 

[Wrangler]

The man was not ALWAYS the head of the wife. Not until AFTER Adam and Eve sinned. What sense would it make for God to have said to Eve, "...and your husband shall rule over you", if Adam had ALWAYS ruled over her? Pretty obvious that it wasn't ALWAYS like that

Untrue. Re-reading the passage, the curse is that the wives desire will be contrary to her husbands and this evil desire will come to naught because he will rule over you ... it is up to you to read into the text "STILL" or "STARTING NOW."

Said differently, everything in existence was in harmony with God's will until Eve decided to rebel. The consequences of that rebellion displace harmony with strife. I believe that is the natural state now between men and women. The only way this can be transcended is through Christ where our natural, rebellious spirit is replaced with God's divine spirit.

 

[MA2444]

Nope. Not buyin' it. There doesn't have to be a 'head'.

Would you say that to Jesus?

There does have to be a head you female ding dong. Lol.

In other words, you can't prove your point. Got it!

You remind me just how much serenity is at my house here. It is so peaceful she since she got independant and left, lol! You hear that? ....... That's the sound of one hand clapping. That's the sound of silence....Ahhh! I'm basking in it Ahhh!!

Team is good, but why does there HAVE to be a 'primary' protector? Why can't simply being a team be good enough?

Hey lady...No women no Kids, you got that?! We let you stay home from the war. You didnt have to go fight. There's still a chain of command and you cant circumvent it.
Beig a team at home is fine but there's still a Captain of of the team. You cant be Captain. It says right here in the he man woman haters club bylaws page #1 No Girls allowed to be Captain. No girls allowed. t's clear as day!

Perhaps another time. I once pulled my late husband out of the way of NYC cab. Had he taken one more step in the street, he would have been hit (he was texting and not paying attention). Does that count as saving his butt?

Think I even got a 'thanks' for that?

He was prolly too embarassed cuz he knew you saved his butt, lol. And her e you are years later....making him look bad instead of good. Thanks for that he said...
telling on your husband, for shame little girl.

 

[Wrangler]

Whoever has the money pays. Male, female or BOTH.

What a fascinating contrast between you and Wrangler. Here you are insisting that the man pays. Yet Wrangler protests the idea that the man is expected to pay!

Yup. He's still a bit blue pilled.

Regarding the etiquette of who asks, pays; When I ask, my wife expects me to pay. When she asks, she expects me to pay. Equality according to feminism.

Sometimes my wife's coveting nature surfaces and she laments us not going out to dinner AS IF it is my burden. Here, again is where the differences between the sexes emerge, RESPONSIBILITY. I ask if she is paying?

This humbles her one way or another. Either she pays OR is content to eat the food I already bought her at the grocery store and only needs to be cooked. Just yesterday my wife bragged about making dinner 2 Monday's in a row. I pointed out that there are 7 days a week, implying someone other than her cooked the other 6 days, implying she has little to brag about. (Bragging is prideful)

She scoffed that I don't appreciate. I rebuked her saying, "I do appreciate you cooking dinner 2 Monday's in a row. Do you appreciate eating the other 6 days a week meals you didn't cook?" S-I-L-E-N-C-E ... and then we will have peace.


Men = Sith in above reference. LOL

 

[Wrangler]

Unless of course you leave her, become incapacitated or pass on. Then she'll HAVE to pay bills. So, let's dispense with the "ever" part, ok?

The commitment to inquality is stunning. Here, you are comparing ACTUAL to POTENTIAL.

He IS actually paying the bills. You are comparing this AS EQUAL to her potentially paying the bills one day! I'll try this with my wife about housework and let you know how that flies.

 

[Wrangler]

With 8 billion people on the planet, even 1% of that is still 'many'.

Is that feminist math? If I do housework 1% of the time, I wonder if my wife will give me credit for doing housework much of the time, many times? What do you think?

 

[Wrangler]

You mean like feminists wanting reproductive rights for women only?

Depends on what you mean by that.

Lots of things in feminism world depends.




Please, oh please list the feminist organizations who have successfully lobbied goverments - in the spirit of equality - for male reproductive rights depending on THE EXACT STANDARDS women have.

• Totally unrestricted = Totally unrestricted.
• Partially restricted = Partially restricted*

Where partial is equally partial.

 

[Mink57]

Yup. He's still a bit blue pilled.

Regarding the etiquette of who asks, pays; When I ask, my wife expects me to pay. When she asks, she expects me to pay. Equality according to feminism.

See, I don't agree with that. The etiquette goes that whoever asks, pays...unless you both come to a different agreement. My late husband and I usually had the agreement that if we wanted takeout, whoever mentioned takeout would 'buy' and the other would 'fly'. Now, that didn't ALWAYS work out equally, as there were plenty of times when either one of us would offer to pay AND drive to get the order. Also, of the times he DID offer to 'buy', he would buy MOST of the time, because once he was home, he didn't feel like going out again.

Sometimes my wife's coveting nature surfaces and she laments us not going out to dinner AS IF it is my burden. Here, again is where the differences between the sexes emerge, RESPONSIBILITY. I ask if she is paying?

That may be simply upbringing. Some women are raised to believe that the man ALWAYS pays. I don't believe that at all.

This humbles her one way or another. Either she pays OR is content to eat the food I already bought her at the grocery store and only needs to be cooked. Just yesterday my wife bragged about making dinner 2 Monday's in a row. I pointed out that there are 7 days a week, implying someone other than her cooked the other 6 days, implying she has little to brag about. (Bragging is prideful)

Two MONDAY'S in a row? Never heard THAT before! Was she bragging or complaining that it two MONDAYS in a row?

She scoffed that I don't appreciate. I rebuked her saying, "I do appreciate you cooking dinner 2 Monday's in a row. Do you appreciate eating the other 6 days a week meals you didn't cook?" S-I-L-E-N-C-E ... and then we will have peace.

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Men = Sith in above reference. LOL

Yes, and I agree that SOME women don't really think before they speak! Personally, if I cooked two Monday's in a row for my husband, it wouldn't be anything for me to brag about.

 

[Mink57]

Is that feminist math? If I do housework 1% of the time, I wonder if my wife will give me credit for doing housework much of the time, many times? What do you think?

All has to be put into context, Wrangler.

 

[Mink57]

Lots of things in feminism world depends.

Lots of things IN LIFE 'depends'. All or even MOST of life isn't cut-n-dry or black-or-white.

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Please, oh please list the feminist organizations who have successfully lobbied goverments - in the spirit of equality - for male reproductive rights depending on THE EXACT STANDARDS women have.

• Totally unrestricted = Totally unrestricted.
• Partially restricted = Partially restricted*

Where partial is equally partial.

I'm not familiar with the whole idea of 'male reproductive rights'.

 

[Mink57]

The commitment to inquality is stunning. Here, you are comparing ACTUAL to POTENTIAL.

He IS actually paying the bills. You are comparing this AS EQUAL to her potentially paying the bills one day! I'll try this with my wife about housework and let you know how that flies.

Do you actually WANT to pay the bills? If not, then you should TALK to her about it.
If you DO want to pay them, then you have nothing to complain about!

 

[Wynona]

Enjoying being the peanut gallery in my own thread at times. You all are hilarious!!

Today my husband and I agreed that we are trying together to break multiple multi-generational family curses. In other words, we're working double time and triple time so that our kids don't have to have the same exact struggles and can surpass us in their calings from God.

I see home centeredness for both me and my husband as a source of generational blessing and wealth. My husband could make more money than he does with his CDL but he wants to be home every day. I really like that about him.

Money at all cost is not the answer for anyone who is married especially.

 

[Wynona]

Money at all cost is not the answer for anyone who is married especially.

Ironically, my upper middle class parents were too focused on money and material comforts.

My husband, who is white, was raised in the hood out in Indiana.

Comparing notes, we settled on scrapping both mentalities to sticking to Scripture's money principals. Namely, give whenever called, even when it hurts.

 

[Wrangler]

My late husband and I usually had the agreement that if we wanted takeout, whoever mentioned takeout would 'buy' and the other would 'fly'.

That's a good agreement.

 

[Wrangler]

Two MONDAY'S in a row? Never heard THAT before! Was she bragging

Yes, bragging. Do you know who cooled the dinner on Mondays for the previous 13 years? Most me.