Strength and Honor: Triumphing over Feminism

[Wrangler]

In other words, you're projecting your own experiences with your wife and a few women onto ALL women and onto ME.

Nope. The failure to take responsibilty is universal and shown by you in this thread in spades. This is why there is no equivelent of "take it like a man" or "man-up." Also, remember the Husband Store joke? Not based on exceptions but rules of thumb.

 

[Wrangler]

Wrangler, what your wife told you, was appalling. And how you responded was brilliant.

Wow! Thanks. I'll have to let this post settle.

 

[Wrangler]

Some women have better judgment than their husbands.

Agreed. A wise man would defer to such a woman. Would a feminist defer to a man's judgement under any conditions where she disagreed?

No, women are not as happy because they're not being treated fairly yet

LOL The disease is feminism. Feminists cure. More feminism. Guess what? Men aren't being treated fairly yet under feminism and much worse than feminists.

 

[Mink57]

This is a great vid on modern dating. The chic suggested they go out to the most expensive place in town and when he said since she planned it, he's anticipating she is going to pay for it. Her reaction as feminist written all over it. LOL

Wait a minute....

So, the guy, "Jim" asks her out on a date. He has NO IDEA where he'd want to go.
Meanwhile, she ACCEPTS a 'vague' date. Sure! I'll go out to dinner with you! Uhhhhh...wait a minute.

Meanwhile again the guy's idea of "dinner" is a midnight picnic...to a graveyard...where SHE brings the food... (yup! Actually happened to a friend of mine, years ago)

The thing about first dates is that quite often, if a man does "cheap" on THAT date, she should ALWAYS expect "cheap". And that if a man does "expensive" on a first date, she'll ALWAYS expect expensive.

Plus, there's the thinking that if a man treats her to coffee, he's hoping for sex in return. And if he treats her to a more expensive meal, he STILL EXPECTS SEX IN RETURN. And THAT comes from EXPERIENCE.

Again Wrangler, this is NOT the typical attitude of ALL feminists, nor is it the typical attitude of ALL men.

 

[Wrangler]

The vids just keep coming! I know. I know. Mink will pull out her ALL v SOME defense, while denying the idea comes from feminism.

 

[Mink57]

You are in denial that there is such a thing as woman's nature as different from the nature of men.

Because of this, you cannot handle any application of this simple reality. Funny because I thought you recognized female hypergamy. This is just another application of that.

This is a vid by a woman about women's nature. There are tons of them out there.

I recognize hypergamy in SOME women. Not all.

And since it's not ALL it's not a "woman's nature" thing.

 

[Wrangler]

And THAT comes from EXPERIENCE.

Didnt you just mention projecting recently?

Also, I see how you are giving the feminist a pass for being the one to suggest the expensive place. Once again, no responsibility.

Honestly, I'm surprised you did not comment on this list of 21 places feminists refuse to go on 1st dates. Profound sense of entitlement. She said yes to the date. She should have let him take it from there, humbly and gratefully. I would.

If not, she was irresponsible for accepting the date since she requires BIG BUCKS be spent, showing her gold digging character, not caring about a loving relationship with a man, only his dough and willingness to blow it on her.

Again Wrangler, this is NOT the typical attitude of ALL feminists, nor is it the typical attitude of ALL men.

LOL All or some again. Too funny.

 

[Wrangler]

I recognize hypergamy in SOME women. Not all.

Like Patriarchy, hypergamy is a survival strategy - a successful survival strategy.

 

[Mink57]

Agreed. A wise man would defer to such a woman.

And that's good!

Would a feminist defer to a man's judgement under any conditions where she disagreed?

Would a MAN defer to a woman's judgment under any conditions where HE disagreed? You just SAID that a WISE man would defer to such a woman. Well, a wise woman would ALSO defer to such a man.

LOL The disease is feminism. Feminists cure. More feminism. Guess what? Men aren't being treated fairly yet under feminism and much worse than feminists.

Eh. So you say...

 

[Mink57]

Like Patriarchy, hypergamy is a survival strategy - a successful survival strategy.

If that was true, it would be true for ALL people. No woman would EVER marry a POOR man. And yet they do.

Every day.

 

[Mink57]

Didnt you just mention projecting recently?

Your point being....? Sorry...not seeing your point.

Also, I see how you are giving the feminist a pass for being the one to suggest the expensive place. Once again, no responsibility.

Not doing that either.

But by the same token, aren't YOU giving men a pass for NOT suggesting an expensive place, because he doesn't want to set the stage for more expensive places in the future? We'll get into this more in a bit.

Honestly, I'm surprised you did not comment on this list of 21 places feminists refuse to go on 1st dates. Profound sense of entitlement. She said yes to the date. She should have let him take it from there, humbly and gratefully. I would.

Because it's not about "feminists". I consider myself to be a feminist, but not a RADICAL, ENTITLED, SELF-ABSORBED-TREAT-ME-LIKE-A-QUEEN-OR-DROP-OFF-THE-FACE-OF-THE-EARTH feminist.

By the way...she had BOWLING on her list. As an avid bowler, off and on, since I was 15, I would LOVE that!!

If not, she was irresponsible for accepting the date since she requires BIG BUCKS be spent, showing her gold digging character, not caring about a loving relationship with a man, only his dough and willingness to blow it on her.


LOL All or some again. Too funny.

But again, that's not ALL feminists! Why do you not GET that a woman can be a feminist and NOT subscribe to the RADICAL NAZI-LIKE feminism?

 

[Mink57]

If that was true, it would be true for ALL people. No woman would EVER marry a POOR man. And yet they do.

Every day.

Patriarchy isn't about survival. It's about EGO. The whole, "Men are BETTER than women. Men are SUPERIOR to women in ALL fashions. Men are MORE IMPORTANT than women."

Yuck.
Patriarchy taught men and women a whole bunch of LIES. Women can't POSSIBLY vote because it would disrupt their reproductive system. What male 'genius' thought of THAT?

And how about the one were men thought that women had smaller brains than men? Also disproven later on...

How about the one where women aren't interested in casual sex?

Or that if women were educated in the same way as men, it would DESTROY her biology? Or make her "insane"? Or "immoral"?

These are warped ideas that MEN had about women. As wrong as they were. And some of those ideas are still in play today. It's not because of truth; it's because of EGO.

 

[Wrangler]

Would a MAN defer to a woman's judgment under any conditions where HE disagreed? You just SAID that a WISE man would defer to such a woman. Well, a wise woman would ALSO defer to such a man.

A wise woman would not be a feminist. There's the rub!

 

[Wrangler]

Eh. So you say...

You mean you deny the facts presented of the lack of equality for men in the "perfect examples" thread? I see.

 

[Wrangler]

Why do you not GET that a woman can be a feminist and NOT subscribe to the RADICAL NAZI-LIKE feminism?

You haven't differentiated the 2 as far as I recall. As I see it, there is no such thing as moderate extremism.

 

[Wrangler]

Yuck.
Patriarchy taught men and women a whole bunch of LIES. Women can't POSSIBLY vote because it would disrupt their reproductive system. What male 'genius' thought of THAT?

I don't know but that guy is a genius because now that women are voting, the fertility rate is below replacement values.

 

[MA2444]

And THEREIN lies the 'rub'! The decisions she makes regarding preparing a nice home FOR YOU are no 'big deal'. Meanwhile, it's a VERY big deal for HER. That shows a lack of gratitude on YOUR part!

No it doesnt. She will fix it up better than I would so she can do whatever she wants to it. Just because women are better at decorating the house than then men are doesnt make them have less gratitude it makes them have more because it looks nice!

And your complaint is...........?

I was supposed to get a Proverbs 31 Wife and all I got was a Proverbs 28 wife, lol. Not quite up to a 31 yet.

Yes, she's in control. Big deal, as you say. Well, cooking is part of that skill set. But HEY! If a man doesn't even appreciate that...in PEACE time...why bother doing that at all for someone?

Women want to be appreciated JUST AS MUCH AS men want to be appreciated.

Yeah so. It is big deal for now because I am in a big deal mood. What skill set now? Cooking? I dont see any food in front of me. Not even a good sandwich.

Oh come on lady if you want me to appreciate your cooking then you have to go do some cooking and you must be falling behind....What would you cook me for dinner?

 

[MA2444]

The thing about first dates is that quite often, if a man does "cheap" on THAT date, she should ALWAYS expect "cheap". And that if a man does "expensive" on a first date, she'll ALWAYS expect expensive.

My first date with my wife was shooting 22 rifles. Not even to a range either, just drive out to the bush and find a place to shoot into a hill, Is that cheap? I think we went through a fast food drive thru on the way home from shooting.

The thing about first dates is that quite often, if a man does "cheap" on THAT date, she should ALWAYS expect "cheap". And that if a man does "expensive" on a first date, she'll ALWAYS expect expensive.

I'm'a gonna remember that! So the first date dinner is Raman noodles & Toasted cheese sandwiches at my house, lol!

Plus, there's the thinking that if a man treats her to coffee, he's hoping for sex in return. And if he treats her to a more expensive meal, he STILL EXPECTS SEX IN RETURN. And THAT comes from EXPERIENCE.

Yeah cuz the coffee is almost 10 bucks a pop nowadays at starbucks. The man will want sex regardless. Didnt we share a water? Lol! It used to be if the girl invited the man in (for coffee) after the date when he is dropping her off at home. No coffee for you she laughed as she closed the door....

Arent you going to invite me in for coffee? NO? uh. DIdnt I just buy you a Burrito Supreme and Nachos bell Grande?!!! uh--uh--uh. and you wont even fix him a cup of coffee! Lol. Maybe I should have took her to Ponderosa steak house instead. She didnt appreciate my Burrito Supreme....

 

[Mink57]

My first date with my wife was shooting 22 rifles. Not even to a range either, just drive out to the bush and find a place to shoot into a hill, Is that cheap? I think we went through a fast food drive thru on the way home from shooting.

Now, see? THAT I would LOVE!! For ME, it's not about the money or the "thing". It's about the TIME spent. During that time, were you laughing? Getting to know each other? Discovering shared interests? Beliefs? Likes? Dislikes? Tastes?

I'm'a gonna remember that! So the first date dinner is Raman noodles & Toasted cheese sandwiches at my house, lol!

LOL!!! I'll bring the wooden chopsticks and fancy napkins...just to add a little 'class' to the evening! And if I REALLY like you, I'll bring over my set of "Jacks" that we can play on your tiled bathroom floor! (*Whispers to God: He thinks I'm kidding!)

Yeah cuz the coffee is almost 10 bucks a pop nowadays at starbucks. The man will want sex regardless. Didnt we share a water? Lol! It used to be if the girl invited the man in (for coffee) after the date when he is dropping her off at home. No coffee for you she laughed as she closed the door....

*Nods in agreement*

Arent you going to invite me in for coffee? NO? uh. DIdnt I just buy you a Burrito Supreme and Nachos bell Grande?!!! uh--uh--uh. and you wont even fix him a cup of coffee! Lol. Maybe I should have took her to Ponderosa steak house instead. She didnt appreciate my Burrito Supreme....

Ponderosa steak house? You mean...we're NOT going to Sizzler?! What kind of MAN ARE you?!?! Harummmppph!!!

 

[Mink57]

No it doesnt. She will fix it up better than I would so she can do whatever she wants to it. Just because women are better at decorating the house than then men are doesnt make them have less gratitude it makes them have more because it looks nice!

Then how come so many men don't even MENTION that to "HER"? Even ONCE in a while?

How about recognizing that it takes TIME and EFFORT to make a nice home for 'you'? And for the ladies, how about some recognition toward your husbands for busting their butts for 45 hours that week?

I was supposed to get a Proverbs 31 Wife and all I got was a Proverbs 28 wife, lol. Not quite up to a 31 yet.

Yeah so. It is big deal for now because I am in a big deal mood. What skill set now? Cooking? I dont see any food in front of me. Not even a good sandwich.

Oh come on lady if you want me to appreciate your cooking then you have to go do some cooking and you must be falling behind....What would you cook me for dinner?

What do you WANT for dinner? I'm not just going to cook ANYTHING for you and expect you to appreciate it REGARDLESS of whether or not you actually want to eat it!

Maybe the problem we (that is, both men and women) have is our lack of gratitude for what we do for each other...