Some key points pertaining to the parable per Luke 19:11-27.

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@J.

I see where you are going-remember, there is the Preterist and futurist viewpoint.
J.

I know... @IndianaRob =I don't mind J. if you answer these questions for him - he needs to know

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@Johann the preterist view is so damaging and harmful...for without the vision the people perish.\

I'm continuous historical as per the prophecies of Daniel and the Revelation.

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[IndianaRob]

I'll leave you @IndianaRob the questions so you can consider them

1. Who are the teachers God will give Israel to teach them with knowledge and insight?

They were Jesus, Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Peter, Paul

2. What will they be taught?

The mysteries of the kingdom that were hidden in the Old Testament.

3. Why will Israel forget all about the Law, Tabernacle and OT Covenant

When they get saved by the blood of the Lamb

4. How will Jerusalem be called the Lord's Throne - What makes it the Lord's throne?

Jesus is the temple in Heavenly Jerusalem.

5. Why will all nations gather to Jerusalem?

All nations come to Heavenly Jerusalem right now.

That's a lot of unanswered questions on your part.

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That’s my view.

 

[Johann]

@J.

I know... @IndianaRob =I don't mind J. if you answer these questions for him - he needs to know

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Late here in South Africa brother-11.55 PM.

I believe @IndianaRob should not be spoon fed but "self feed" and ask himself-
To whom
The why, when, how--based on solid biblical hermeneutics.

An aside, I don't want to come across as a know it all, it's dangerous and pride comes in all forms and manifestations.
I do have the answer though!

Shalom to you and family.
J.

 

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@IndianaRob

Here is the true answers to those questions

1. Who are the teachers God will give Israel to teach them with knowledge and insight?

The Saints of Christ will instruct the Jews of the New Covenant which God will write upon their hearts

2. What will they be taught?

The Gospel

3. Why will Israel forget all about the Law, Tabernacle and OT Covenant

Because the New Covenant (Christ) is in their midst (physically) and they will remember the old no more!

4. How will Jerusalem be called the Lord's Throne - What makes it the Lord's throne?

Because Christ will rule from Jerusalem and sit upon his Father David's Throne

5. Why will all nations gather to Jerusalem?

To bring offerings to God through the Lord Jesus.

All of this is yet to take place and as your Christ said which I note you haven't spoken to is Elijah coming to "Restore all things"

The restoration of all things is shown to you above.

The re-grafting refined Israel back into their Olive Tree

Enjoy!

 

[Johann]

@Johann the preterist view is so damaging and harmful...for without the vision the people perish.\

I'm continuous historical as per the prophecies of Daniel and the Revelation.

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I see-have you watched debates from Rabbis and Christian/Muslim apologists re Daniel and Revelation?

J.

 

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@IndianaRob

After all this is done what is the outcome for Israel?

They will no longer follow the stubborn inclinations of their own evil hearts. 3:18 At that time the nation of Judah and the nation of Israel will be reunited. Together they will come back from a land in the north to the land that I gave to your ancestors as a permanent possession Je 3:17–18.

This is far far from fulfilled!

Israel is stubborn
Its a divided nation
Some 6 million are still scattered in the earth

There is no permanent possession!

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[IndianaRob]

@IndianaRob

After all this is done what is the outcome for Israel?

They will no longer follow the stubborn inclinations of their own evil hearts. 3:18 At that time the nation of Judah and the nation of Israel will be reunited. Together they will come back from a land in the north to the land that I gave to your ancestors as a permanent possession Je 3:17–18.

This is far far from fulfilled!

Israel is stubborn
Its a divided nation
Some 6 million are still scattered in the earth

There is no permanent possession!

F2F

The end result for the nation of Israel is explained here.

Amo 8:1 Thus hath the Lord GOD shewed unto me: and behold a basket of summer fruit.

Amo 8:2 And he said, Amos, what seest thou? And I said, A basket of summer fruit. Then said the LORD unto me, The end is come upon my people of Israel; I will not again pass by them any more.

 

[face2face]

The end result for the nation of Israel is explained here.

Amo 8:1 Thus hath the Lord GOD shewed unto me: and behold a basket of summer fruit.

Amo 8:2 And he said, Amos, what seest thou? And I said, A basket of summer fruit. Then said the LORD unto me, The end is come upon my people of Israel; I will not again pass by them any more.

Ah no Indiana!!!

Turn the page and you will find the Vision of God for His People

The Restoration of the Davidic Dynasty

9:11 “In that day I will rebuild the collapsing hut of David. I will seal its gaps, repair its ruins, and restore it to what it was like in days gone by. 9:12 As a result they will conquer those left in Edom and all the nations subject to my rule.” The Lord, who is about to do this, is speaking! 9:13 “Be sure of this, the time is coming,” says the Lord, “when the plowman will catch up to the reaper and the one who stomps the grapes will overtake the planter. Juice will run down the slopes, it will flow down all the hillsides. 9:14 I will bring back my people, Israel; they will rebuild the cities lying in rubble and settle down. They will plant vineyards and drink the wine they produce; they will grow orchards and eat the fruit they produce. 9:15 I will plant them on their land and they will never again be uprooted from the land I have given them,” says the Lord your God. Am 9:11–15.

If you need help with the interpretation let me know.

LOL I keep showing you "In that day" - it will come Indiana but your mind must be opened to learning these prophecies

Edom represents the nations who come against them!

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@IndianaRob

says the Lord, “when the plowman will catch up to the reaper and the one who stomps the grapes will overtake the planter.

What do you think this is speaking of?

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[IndianaRob]

Ah no Indiana!!!

Turn the page and you will find the Vision of God for His People

The Restoration of the Davidic Dynasty

9:11 “In that day I will rebuild the collapsing hut of David. I will seal its gaps, repair its ruins, and restore it to what it was like in days gone by. 9:12 As a result they will conquer those left in Edom and all the nations subject to my rule.” The Lord, who is about to do this, is speaking! 9:13 “Be sure of this, the time is coming,” says the Lord, “when the plowman will catch up to the reaper and the one who stomps the grapes will overtake the planter. Juice will run down the slopes, it will flow down all the hillsides. 9:14 I will bring back my people, Israel; they will rebuild the cities lying in rubble and settle down. They will plant vineyards and drink the wine they produce; they will grow orchards and eat the fruit they produce. 9:15 I will plant them on their land and they will never again be uprooted from the land I have given them,” says the Lord your God. Am 9:11–15.

If you need help with the interpretation let me know.

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I don’t need help I know what it means It means exactly what it says.

It means God took the kingdom from the wicked Jews, destroyed the nation and gave the kingdom to the righteous Jews that turned to Christ.

 

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@IndianaRob

I will plant them on their land and they will never again be uprooted from the land I have given them,” says the Lord your God

Has this happened yet?

 

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I don’t need help I know what it means It means exactly what it says.

It means God took the kingdom from the wicked Jews, destroyed the nation and gave the kingdom to the righteous Jews that turned to Christ.

No you need a lot of help Indiana.

Read it carefully...don't let your anger remove God's Vision and Wisdom

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I don’t need help I know what it means It means exactly what it says.

It means God took the kingdom from the wicked Jews, destroyed the nation and gave the kingdom to the righteous Jews that turned to Christ.

This is partly true.

God did make their house desolate and He will give them a Kingdom and Land - just hasn't happened yet!

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@IndianaRob

I've studied these prophecies for over 30 years and can show you from both OT and NT how they fit beautifully together to provide a complete Vision of God concerning the role of the Saints in the earth, His People Israel and the Nations of the earth.

It's all there if you want to learn

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[IndianaRob]

@IndianaRob

says the Lord, “when the plowman will catch up to the reaper and the one who stomps the grapes will overtake the planter.

What do you think this is speaking of?

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It’s speaking of the harvest coming in faster than the planters can plant.

 

[IndianaRob]

This is partly true.

God did make their house desolate and He will give them a Kingdom and Land - just hasn't happened yet!

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So in your view God is going to take the kingdom away from the righteous Jews and Gentiles and give it back to the Jews that hate God and Jesus?

 

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It’s speaking of the harvest coming in faster than the planters can plant.

Correct a time of great security and prosperity for Israel = Kingdom age!

 

[IndianaRob]

@IndianaRob

I will plant them on their land and they will never again be uprooted from the land I have given them,” says the Lord your God

Has this happened yet?

Yes, some Jews entered the land that all of the Old Testament talks about. The Promise Land, the land flowing with milk and honey, the kingdom of heaven, heavenly Jerusalem that Jesus brought in.

 

[face2face]

So in your view God is going to take the kingdom away from the righteous Jews and Gentiles and give it back to the Jews that hate God and Jesus?

I'll give you another prophecy let to be fulfilled.

Thus says the LORD of hosts: In those days ten men from the nations of every tongue shall take hold of the robe of a Jew, saying, ‘Let us go with you, for we have heard that God is with you.’” Zech 8:23

Now I know you know this is unfulfilled!

But what has changed for this to happen?
And why is it happening?

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