What are the two witnesses doing with the prostitute?

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Scripture does not say what these two witnesses of Jesus Christ testify, whether it be good or evil.

But it does say they torment people and kill people.
Do you think they are good disciples of Jesus Christ tormenting and killing people?

Is that what we are supposed to do?
If it is,then I'm.not a very good disciple .I haven't killed anyone and I can't stand up see people tormented.
The Two Witnesses are the good guys!

Revelation 11:3-5

3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.


4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks STANDING BEFORE THE GOD of the earth.

5 And if any man will hurt them, FIRE PROCEEDETH OUT OF THEIR MOUTH, AND DEVOURETH THEIR ENEMIES: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
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Zechariah 4:11-14

11 Then answered I, and said unto him, What are these two olive trees upon the right side of the candlestick and upon the left side thereof?

12 And I answered again, and said unto him, "What be these two olive branches which through the two golden pipes empty the golden oil out of themselves?"

13 And he answered me and said, "Knowest thou not what these be?" And I said, "No, my lord."

14 Then said he, "These are the TWO ANOINTED ONES, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth."

PEtRA
 

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Well,that explains everything.You don't believe Jerusalem exists anymore.Its just a memory.
Well, the city of Jerusalem exists of course, but that is not the spiritual Jerusalem the Bible speaks of. The spiritual Jerusalem was God's bride.
Speaking of adultery, did you know the punishment for adultery was death by stoning? Isn't it interesting that Jerusalem was literally stoned to death in 70 AD. Yes, giant stones hurled at her by the Romans. It's quite the imagery.

Revelation 16:21

and great hail (as of talent weight) doth come down out of the heaven upon men, and men did speak evil of God because of the plague of the hail, because its plague is very great.

Wars Book 5 Chapter 6

The engines, that all the legions had ready prepared for them, were admirably contrived; but still more extraordinary ones belonged to the tenth legion: those that threw darts and those that threw stones were more forcible and larger than the rest, by which they not only repelled the excursions of the Jews, but drove those away that were upon the walls also. Now the stones that were cast were of the weight of a talent, and were carried two furlongs and further. The blow they gave was no way to be sustained, not only by those that stood first in the way, but by those that were beyond them for a great space. As for the Jews, they at first watched the coming of the stone, for it was of a white color, and could therefore not only be perceived by the great noise it made, but could be seen also before it came by its brightness; accordingly the watchmen that sat upon the towers gave them notice when the engine was let go, and the stone came from it, and cried out aloud, in their own country language, The Stone Cometh 15 so those that were in its way stood off, and threw themselves down upon the ground; by which means, and by their thus guarding themselves, the stone fell down and did them no harm. But the Romans contrived how to prevent that by blacking the stone, who then could aim at them with success, when the stone was not discerned beforehand, as it had been till then; and so they destroyed many of them at one blow.
 

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The Two Witnesses are the good guys!

Revelation 11:3-5

3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.


4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks STANDING BEFORE THE GOD of the earth.

5 And if any man will hurt them, FIRE PROCEEDETH OUT OF THEIR MOUTH, AND DEVOURETH THEIR ENEMIES: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
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Zechariah 4:11-14

11 Then answered I, and said unto him, What are these two olive trees upon the right side of the candlestick and upon the left side thereof?


12 And I answered again, and said unto him, "What be these two olive branches which through the two golden pipes empty the golden oil out of themselves?"

13 And he answered me and said, "Knowest thou not what these be?" And I said, "No, my lord."

14 Then said he, "These are the TWO ANOINTED ONES, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth."

PEtRA
So you preach that we are good guys if we kill and torment other people.

How many people have you killed and tormented?
 

tailgator

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Well, the city of Jerusalem exists of course, but that is not the spiritual Jerusalem the Bible speaks of. The spiritual Jerusalem was God's bride.
Speaking of adultery, did you know the punishment for adultery was death by stoning? Isn't it interesting that Jerusalem was literally stoned to death in 70 AD. Yes, giant stones hurled at her by the Romans. It's quite the imagery.

Revelation 16:21

and great hail (as of talent weight) doth come down out of the heaven upon men, and men did speak evil of God because of the plague of the hail, because its plague is very great.

Wars Book 5 Chapter 6

The engines, that all the legions had ready prepared for them, were admirably contrived; but still more extraordinary ones belonged to the tenth legion: those that threw darts and those that threw stones were more forcible and larger than the rest, by which they not only repelled the excursions of the Jews, but drove those away that were upon the walls also. Now the stones that were cast were of the weight of a talent, and were carried two furlongs and further. The blow they gave was no way to be sustained, not only by those that stood first in the way, but by those that were beyond them for a great space. As for the Jews, they at first watched the coming of the stone, for it was of a white color, and could therefore not only be perceived by the great noise it made, but could be seen also before it came by its brightness; accordingly the watchmen that sat upon the towers gave them notice when the engine was let go, and the stone came from it, and cried out aloud, in their own country language, The Stone Cometh 15 so those that were in its way stood off, and threw themselves down upon the ground; by which means, and by their thus guarding themselves, the stone fell down and did them no harm. But the Romans contrived how to prevent that by blacking the stone, who then could aim at them with success, when the stone was not discerned beforehand, as it had been till then; and so they destroyed many of them at one blow.
Where is that earthquake and the stars of heaven falling you say Josephus wrote about?

Quote him.
 

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No ,he didn't actually.
Josephus did not write of an earthquake in the first century.

Quote him.

Well, since you asked nicely...

The Earthquake

And now did the Idumeans make an acclamation to what Simon had said; but Jesus went away sorrowful, as seeing that the Idumeans were against all moderate counsels, and that the city was besieged on both sides. Nor indeed were the minds of the Idumeans at rest; for they were in a rage at the injury that had been offered them by their exclusion out of the city; and when they thought the zealots had been strong, but saw nothing of theirs to support them, they were in doubt about the matter, and many of them repented that they had come thither. But the shame that would attend them in case they returned without doing any thing at all, so far overcame that their repentance, that they lay all night before the wall, though in a very bad encampment; for there broke out a prodigious storm in the night, with the utmost violence, and very strong winds, with the largest showers of rain, with continued lightnings, terrible thunderings, and amazing concussions and bellowings of the earth, that was in an earthquake. These things were a manifest indication that some destruction was coming upon men, when the system of the world was put into this disorder; and any one would guess that these wonders foreshowed some grand calamities that were coming. (Wars 4.4.5)
 

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So you preach that we are good guys if we kill and torment other people.

How many people have you killed and tormented?
Aww… These Two Witnesses are witnessing for the LORD. Why? because so many people are being deceived by the antichrist (Satan) who is claiming to be God! Do you realize that the elect will be delivered up to the synagogue of Satan and that the Holy Spirit will speak through them so that the whole world will hear? Why do you think Satan kills the two witnesses? Satan hates God!
 

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Where is that earthquake and the stars of heaven falling you say Josephus wrote about?

Quote him.

Stars of heaven falling is obviously just apocalyptic language. Stars can not literally fall to earth. If a star "fell to earth" it would be more like a collision, and the earth would be swallowed up in fire. So, obviously that's apocalyptic language, not literal. Do you have any idea how big stars are? They're very big.
 

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Well, since you asked nicely...

The Earthquake

And now did the Idumeans make an acclamation to what Simon had said; but Jesus went away sorrowful, as seeing that the Idumeans were against all moderate counsels, and that the city was besieged on both sides. Nor indeed were the minds of the Idumeans at rest; for they were in a rage at the injury that had been offered them by their exclusion out of the city; and when they thought the zealots had been strong, but saw nothing of theirs to support them, they were in doubt about the matter, and many of them repented that they had come thither. But the shame that would attend them in case they returned without doing any thing at all, so far overcame that their repentance, that they lay all night before the wall, though in a very bad encampment; for there broke out a prodigious storm in the night, with the utmost violence, and very strong winds, with the largest showers of rain, with continued lightnings, terrible thunderings, and amazing concussions and bellowings of the earth, that was in an earthquake. These things were a manifest indication that some destruction was coming upon men, when the system of the world was put into this disorder; and any one would guess that these wonders foreshowed some grand calamities that were coming. (Wars 4.4.5)
What book. and chapter is this from ?
I'm not seeing this in war 4:4
 

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Aww… These Two Witnesses are witnessing for the LORD. Why? because so many people are being deceived by the antichrist (Satan) who is claiming to be God! Do you realize that the elect will be delivered up to the synagogue of Satan and that the Holy Spirit will speak through them so that the whole world will hear? Why do you think Satan kills the two witnesses? Satan hates God!
It does not say they are witnessing for the Lord
Be careful not to rewrite the book of revelation or it won't make any sense to you.

It's also not Satan that kills the two witnesses.Its the beast that ascends out of the bottomless pit that kills them and burns the prostitute.
 

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Stars of heaven falling is obviously just apocalyptic language. Stars can not literally fall to earth. If a star "fell to earth" it would be more like a collision, and the earth would be swallowed up in fire. So, obviously that's apocalyptic language, not literal. Do you have any idea how big stars are? They're very big.
It's talking about missiles.Nuclear missiles.
It takes place during the war of armegeddon.

It's what causes the heavens to depart from the earth like a scroll being rolled together.
You know,that inward motion a nuclear explosion has.
 

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I disagree. If that was the case, then why is it called "Mystery Babylon"?
Why is Jesus called the lamb? Why is Saul called Paul? Why is Simon called Peter? Why is Sarai called Sarah? Why is Jacob called Israel? Why is John the baptist called Elijah? Because God gives descriptive and symbolic names. (which is why all the angel names end in "el" which means of God).

Jerusalem was Jerusalem when she was the bride of Christ. When she strayed away from God, she was referred to as Babylon, because the word Babylon means decadence, corruption and confusion. This does not apply to new Jerusalem, obviously, as the new Jerusalem is the new bride.
 

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It's talking about missiles.Nuclear missiles.
It takes place during the war of armegeddon.

It's what causes the heavens to depart from the earth like a scroll being rolled together.
You know,that inward motion a nuclear explosion has.
Why do you insist on finding a literal interpretation that fits your vision of reality? Why can't you just accept that the Bible is full of imagery?
 

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Well, since you asked nicely...

The Earthquake

And now did the Idumeans make an acclamation to what Simon had said; but Jesus went away sorrowful, as seeing that the Idumeans were against all moderate counsels, and that the city was besieged on both sides. Nor indeed were the minds of the Idumeans at rest; for they were in a rage at the injury that had been offered them by their exclusion out of the city; and when they thought the zealots had been strong, but saw nothing of theirs to support them, they were in doubt about the matter, and many of them repented that they had come thither. But the shame that would attend them in case they returned without doing any thing at all, so far overcame that their repentance, that they lay all night before the wall, though in a very bad encampment; for there broke out a prodigious storm in the night, with the utmost violence, and very strong winds, with the largest showers of rain, with continued lightnings, terrible thunderings, and amazing concussions and bellowings of the earth, that was in an earthquake. These things were a manifest indication that some destruction was coming upon men, when the system of the world was put into this disorder; and any one would guess that these wonders foreshowed some grand calamities that were coming. (Wars 4.4.5)
This earthquake did not take place in ,70!AD.
 

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Why do you insist on finding a literal interpretation that fits your vision of reality? Why can't you just accept that the Bible is full of imagery?
Because I understand what causes the heavens to depart from the earth like a scroll being rolled together.
The Romans did not have the power to do such things as are exhibited in the war of armegeddon which is about the kings of the east.
 

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The Two Witnesses are the good guys!

Revelation 11:3-5

3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.


4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks STANDING BEFORE THE GOD of the earth.

5 And if any man will hurt them, FIRE PROCEEDETH OUT OF THEIR MOUTH, AND DEVOURETH THEIR ENEMIES: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
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Zechariah 4:11-14

11 Then answered I, and said unto him, What are these two olive trees upon the right side of the candlestick and upon the left side thereof?


12 And I answered again, and said unto him, "What be these two olive branches which through the two golden pipes empty the golden oil out of themselves?"

13 And he answered me and said, "Knowest thou not what these be?" And I said, "No, my lord."

14 Then said he, "These are the TWO ANOINTED ONES, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth."

PEtRA
Do you believe every person who gives fire commands are good and are doing good killing other people?

Is that what you preach Jesus disciples are supposed to do?
 

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It does not say they are witnessing for the Lord
Be careful not to rewrite the book of revelation or it won't make any sense to you.

It's also not Satan that kills the two witnesses.Its the beast that ascends out of the bottomless pit that kills them and burns the prostitute.
Just who do you think the beast that ascends out of the bottomless pit is? It’s Satan.

And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

- Revelation 12:9 (KJV)
 

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Do you believe every person who gives fire commands are good and are doing good killing other people?

Is that what you preach Jesus disciples are supposed to do?
Oh my! You have never studied the Bible, have you.