What a pity the Triune Godhead is banned--and for every new comer it is the same old, same old.
Who did Christ always point to?
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Think more along the lines of time travel which God most certainly is capable of. Jesus is God inside of time, the Father is God outside of time... both are exactly the same being and both exist separately at the same time.
I have this "check" you won't be here for long.
Bereshis (in the Beginning) was the Dvar Hashem [YESHAYAH 55:11; BERESHIS 1:1], and the Dvar Hashem was agav (along with) Hashem [MISHLE 8:30; 30:4], and the Dvar Hashem was nothing less, by nature, than Elohim! [Psa 56:11(10); Yn 17:5; Rev. 19:13]
Bereshis (in the Beginning) this Dvar Hashem was with Hashem [Prov 8:30].
All things through him came to be, and without him came to be not one thing which came into being. [Ps 33:6,9; Prov 30:4]
In him was Chayyim (Life) and the Chayyim (Life) was the Ohr (Light) of Bnei Adam. [TEHILLIM 36:10 (9)]
Think more along the lines of time travel (science fiction) which God most certainly is capable of.
Time is an abstract concept.
Jesus is God inside of time, the Father is God outside of time...
One incorrect, the other incorrect.
both are exactly the same being and both exist separately at the same time.
And in your imagination.
Time is an abstract concept.
Jesus is God inside of time, the Father is God outside of time...
One incorrect, the other incorrect.
both are exactly the same being and both exist separately at the same time.
And in your imagination.
PS95
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Seems trinity discussion have been banned on this forum and it's a real pity for JWs. Youre all obsessed with it, and by your questions and statements, clearly, you have no understanding of what it actually teaches.
BUT i will bite this once-
Jesus pointed us to His father while He was on earth ,and He taught that there was NO way to the Father except through Him.
So, I would say Himself and the Father are equally important.
If you dont agree, you might be a JW.
"Obsessed with it"...over which God to worship? I guess truth and no bearing on you...Seems trinity discussion have been banned on this forum and it's a real pity for JWs. Youre all obsessed with it, and by your questions and statements, clearly, you have no understanding of what it actually teaches.
BUT i will bite this once-
Jesus pointed us to His father while He was on earth ,and He taught that there was NO way to the Father except through Him.
So, I would say Himself and the Father are equally important.
If you dont agree, you might be a JW.
Ronald David Bruno
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Like the small percentage of gay people, who shout, protest and march for their cause, the masses are worned down and to keep the peace, give in to their cries.
So it's now time and it displacement by travel that causes the Son to be the Father God and visa-versa? What other fantasies can we conjure up next I wonder.....Scripture speaks to the Father God as timeless, whether from our limited mental perspective within the bounds of time or not. The Son had or has not a history of being timeless at all.
Scriptural References on the Timeless Nature of Jesus
Eternal Existence of Jesus:
John 1:1-2: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God." This passage affirms the preexistence of Jesus (the Word), indicating that He existed before time began.
Revelation 1:8: "I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.” Jesus identifies Himself as eternal and all-encompassing, beyond the constraints of time.
Jesus as the Eternal Son:
Hebrews 13:8: "Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever." This verse highlights the unchanging nature of Jesus, emphasizing His eternal consistency.
Micah 5:2: "But you, O Bethlehem Ephrathah, who are too little to be among the clans of Judah, from you shall come forth for me one who is to be ruler in Israel, whose coming forth is from of old, from ancient days." This prophecy points to the eternal origin of Jesus, even though He was born in Bethlehem.
Creation and Timelessness:
Colossians 1:16-17: "For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible... And he is before all things, and in him all things hold together." This underscores Jesus’ role in creation and His existence outside of time.
Timelessness and Immutability:
Hebrews 1:10-12: "And, 'You, Lord, laid the foundation of the earth in the beginning, and the heavens are the work of your hands; they will perish, but you remain; they will all wear out like a garment, like a robe you will roll them up, like a garment they will be changed. But you are the same, and your years will have no end.'" This passage reflects on Jesus’ unchanging nature and His permanence beyond the temporal world.
In case you don't know or haven't read the rules before posting-the topic of the Triune Godhead is banned-get it?
Maybe they ought to rewrite their rules! After all it's quite impossible to discuss Jesus without knowing who he IS!
I agree with you here. What's the difference between Echad and Yachid?
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Ziggy
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Another thread to bite the dust, but while I can I will reply lol.
In the beginning God. And God said (Word) , Let there be Light ( I am the Light of the world) , And God saw that the Light was good, there is none good but God.
What did God see when he saw the light?
Hugs
mirror mirror...
In the beginning God. And God said (Word) , Let there be Light ( I am the Light of the world) , And God saw that the Light was good, there is none good but God.
What did God see when he saw the light?
Hugs
mirror mirror...
PS95
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You are not born anew, not in new covenant, not baptized into His death, not a spiritual child of God, not a new creation, not a partaker of His flesh and blood, ETC.. --nor do you seek to be!
Therefore, You dont hear His voice, you don't know him and He doesnt know you. That's the only way you will ever know WHO He is.
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