When was the A.O.D fulfilled?

[rwb]

I guess the word ETERNAL does not mean anything to you?

What does ETERNAL mean to you?

It appears you think ETERNAL is something given then taken away, but not to worry you will get it again? Maybe an in-depth study of what ETERNAL means would help you better understand. When God gives something eternally that is conditioned upon obedience, don't be surprised if that which would have forever is taken away. We can have confidence in salvation through Christ because His promise of ETERNAL life is forever, and can never be taken away from those who believe.

 

[rwb]

Let me ask. Do you believe Gods promise to you he called eternal is forever?

Yes, I have great comfort in knowing that the promise of eternal life given me in Christ is forever. Because unlike the promise of land forever of Caanan is not a conditional promise as possession of the land was. Christ's promise to His elect is unconditional and is not dependent upon me but is of the Lord alone!

 

[rwb]

But his covenant was not that he would just give it to them, He said I giuve it to you forever. He gave them no conditions.. The abrahamic covenant is an I will covenant.

You have no understanding of the covenant promise! If you did you would know they would only possess the land forever IF IF IF they remained obedient to God alone! And they did NOT!

 

[rwb]

The resurrection of Israel has everything to do with Jesus Christ.
Dude.Jesus is the resurection.Dont you know that?


You think the whole house of Israel is just going to up and come out of their graves on their own,?
Do you believe anything Jesus said about the resurection?

John 5:28-29

Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation



The whole house of Israel and in Ezekiel 37 has not risen from the dead and doesn't till Christ comes.The resurection of Israel did not take place in 1948 nor did it take place in 70 ad or the first century.It has not been fulfilled yet.

Dude, you don't what sayeth the Scriptures! Don't try to be a teacher of that which you are unlearned of!

 

[Eternally Grateful]

What does ETERNAL mean to you?

Let see,

God said your generations throughout all generations. forever. never ending. Without end. Without limit.

It appears you think ETERNAL is something given then taken away,

No. that is what you think it is. i do not think this is true3. eternal means eternal. if can never be lost. or end.. thats why it is called eternal.

but not to worry you will get it again?

Get it again? If I could lose it. it was never eternal.

I believe in eternal life. not conditional life

Gods promise to Israel was eternal. not conditional.

God did nto tell abraham, if you and your offspring does this, i will give you and them this land (condition)

he said I give it to you and your offspring through ALL your generations as an ETERNAL gift.

Your telling me God lied.

Maybe an in-depth study of what ETERNAL means would help you better understand. When God gives something eternally that is conditioned upon obedience,

He would not give something eternal conditioned on obedience. You do not call something eternal. when it is in no way shape or form promised to be eternal.

Maybe you should seek to what it means when jesus said if you believe, you will never hunger or thirst, You will never perish, you will never die, you will live forever. you will be raised on the last day. and you have eternal life.

all because we trust in him..

no other condition was given. non, zero zip nada,, nor could any be given, because the wage of sin is death, That's the penalty you must pay, how many sins have you committed since birth? Add them all up. that's how many death sentences you have against you.

You think you obedience is going to save you?? That God is going to give you time of for good behavior? You do not know God at all.

don't be surprised if that which would have forever is taken away. We can have confidence in salvation through Christ because His promise of ETERNAL life is forever, and can never be taken away from those who believe.

If it can be taken away, its not eternal

I call that conditional life. thats what you preach.

God gave me eternal life.. John said that is the basis for me to keep going, Because I can not lose Gods love, he will never leave nor forsake me, Like you claim he left and forsook israel.

Never gonna happen bro.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Dude, you don't what sayeth the Scriptures! Don't try to be a teacher of that which you are unlearned of!

now we can agree here.. I stopped responding to him awhile ago..

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Yes, I have great comfort in knowing that the promise of eternal life given me in Christ is forever. Because unlike the promise of land forever of Caanan is not a conditional promise as possession of the land was. Christ's promise to His elect is unconditional and is not dependent upon me but is of the Lord alone!

His promise to Israel was unconditional also.

You should worry. Because if God will not keep his promise to them, You have no assurance he will keep his promise to you

 

[Ronald Nolette]

This is not a reinterpretation…

1 John 3:8
He that committeth sin is of the devil

1 John 5:18
We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not;

So you believe that from the moment you were born again, you have not sinned in thought word or deed?

You believe you were infused with full knowledge to know immediately what is sin or not?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You have no understanding of the covenant promise! If you did you would know they would only possess the land forever IF IF IF they remained obedient to God alone! And they did NOT!

I never said possession was forever

I said OWNERSHIP was forever.

If they repent (and they will) God will give it back to them (as he promised)

You need to study lev 26. you would learn alot.. gain a great understanding of what God made them do to possess the land in peace. and what he would do if he turned from him. but what he promised to do if they repent.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

So you believe that from the moment you were born again, you have not sinned in thought word or deed?

You believe you were infused with full knowledge to know immediately what is sin or not?

would it not be great if this actually happened?

then again, What need would we have of God if this happened?

 

[covenantee]

I never said possession was forever

I said OWNERSHIP was forever.

If they repent (and they will) God will give it back to them (as he promised)

You need to study lev 26. you would learn alot.. gain a great understanding of what God made them do to possess the land in peace. and what he would do if he turned from him. but what he promised to do if they repent.

Once upon a time there was a father who, in his will, bequeathed his son 100 ounces of silver. He told his son of the bequest. Some time later, the father decided to update his will, and without telling his son, changed the bequest from 100 ounces of silver to 100 ounces of gold. Silver was valued at $30/ounce, and gold at $2000/ounce. Eventually, the father passed away, and the time for the reading of the will ensued. The bequest to the son of his 100 ounces of gold was read, whereupon he arose in fury, and accused his father of lying and not keeping his promise. He straightway marched down to the local coin shop and demanded that his gold be exchanged for silver. The shopkeeper willingly granted his demand.

We see that you're completely satisfied to have received 100 ounces of silver in exchange for your 100 ounces of gold.

And that, folks, is what's known as "dispensationalism".

 

[tailgator]

Dude, you don't what sayeth the Scriptures! Don't try to be a teacher of that which you are unlearned of!

Yes I know what the scripture says.
I quoted it for you when you didn't know the scripture says what it does .

Now all the sudden ,you believe you know more than the scripture does.

Laughable.

 

[tailgator]

You have no understanding of the covenant promise! If you did you would know they would only possess the land forever IF IF IF they remained obedient to God alone! And they did NOT!

That's actually false.

God promised the land to Abraham and his seed which is Christ.
God did not apply any IF IF IF to Abraham or Christ.

Galatians 3:16
The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. Scripture does not say “and to seeds,” meaning many people, but “and to your seed,” meaning one person, who is Christ.

God promised to give the land to Christ.Its that simple.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

would it not be great if this actually happened?

then again, What need would we have of God if this happened?

Yeah, I would love to live a sin free life to glorify Him and show perfect gratitude.

But for all of us who are not deceived in to thinking we no longer sin, We rejoice in HIs mercy, grace and promise to keep cleansing us until we reach perfection.

Hebrews 10:14
For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.

Because "sanctified" is the present passive participle, it is best translated "them that are being sanctified".

 

[Stewardofthemystery]

So you believe that from the moment you were born again, you have not sinned in thought word or deed?

You believe you were infused with full knowledge to know immediately what is sin or not?

I was made free from sin.

Romans 6:18
Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

Romans 6:22
But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.

Romans 8:2
For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

John 8:36
If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

I was made free from sin.

Romans 6:18
Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

Romans 6:22
But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.

Romans 8:2
For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

John 8:36
If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

Yes you were as I was. but you are clueless as to what that actually means.

 

[The Light]

.I just gave you multiple passages.. I guess you struggle to read

I read everyone of them and I saw NOTHING having to do with the Antichrist being Roman. Please post any verse that shows he is a Roman.

Nope.

Yes. Now look at history

there are seven,,

5 are fallen
1. Egypt
2. Assyria
3. Babylon
4. Media Persia
5. Greece

one is

Rome was in power at the time John wrote revelation

and one is to come.

the revised roman empire. who will be in power when christ returns.

Not nimrod.

There is nothing in scripture that says that the Antichrist is a Roman.

The Antichrist is a King of the North. The king of the North is not the Roman empire.

Daniel 11
15 So the king of the north shall come, and cast up a mount, and take the most fenced cities: and the arms of the south shall not withstand, neither his chosen people, neither shall there be any strength to withstand.

Daniel 11
21 And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries.

Yep.. Again, Not nimrod

Yep

Rome was, And is not. even today it is not. But Gabriel and David said it will arise again

I see nothing in scripture that says the Romans are the last kingdom.

Who was the first ruler of the world? Nimrod.

Who at his death..........by the mortal wound of the sword..........is claimed to be the sun. Nimrod.

The Pharoah of Egypt was Ra, the sun. Or in a different period, Osiris the sun. The Pharoah was God on earth.

Marduk of Assryia was the sun god. Assur was Nimrod

Who was Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon? He was God on earth and claimed to be the reincarnation of Nimrod

Who was the false god of the media Persian empire. Zoroaster who is Nimrod.

Who was God on earth in the Greek empire. Alexander the Great.

Who is God on earth in the Roman empire. The Pope, the Vicar of Christ. Nothing in the Bible about a person being God on earth. But you can alway find the sun.

When Hitler attempted to take over the world he used the ancient sun sign.

Nope.. Babylon had its time, it was the first of daniels 4 kingdoms. The final one will be in power when christ returns (the rock that hits the feet)

rev 13; 2 Now the beast which I saw was like a leopard, his feet were like the feet of a bear, and his mouth like the mouth of a lion.

He had the characteristics of the first three beasts

the lion (babylon)
the bear (Media peris)
and the leapard (greece)

nice try

The final kingdom will be a world government with the rider on the white horse as the leader. He does not lead the Roman empire. The rider on the white horse is given the stephanos crown, the symbol of the UN.

 

[rwb]

His promise to Israel was unconditional also.

You should worry. Because if God will not keep his promise to them, You have no assurance he will keep his promise to you

No His promise of the land of Caanan was conditioned upon their obedience to God. Under the New Covenant through the blood of Christ there is no conditional covenant because the New Covenant is FOREVER to all who believe. I have nothing to worry about because I have Christ's Spirit within, and He shall be with me until I receive an immortal & incorruptible body when Christ comes again. The Old Covenant nation were not indwelt with the Holy Spirit. That did not come to pass until after the first advent of Christ coming as a man.

 

[rwb]

I never said possession was forever

I said OWNERSHIP was forever.

If they repent (and they will) God will give it back to them (as he promised)

You need to study lev 26. you would learn alot.. gain a great understanding of what God made them do to possess the land in peace. and what he would do if he turned from him. but what he promised to do if they repent.

You're not making any sense??? Where can I read of this ownership?

 

[rwb]

Once upon a time there was a father who, in his will, bequeathed his son 100 ounces of silver. He told his son of the bequest. Some time later, the father decided to update his will, and without telling his son, changed the bequest from 100 ounces of silver to 100 ounces of gold. Silver was valued at $30/ounce, and gold at $2000/ounce. Eventually, the father passed away, and the time for the reading of the will ensued. The bequest to the son of his 100 ounces of gold was read, whereupon he arose in fury, and accused his father of lying and not keeping his promise. He straightway marched down to the local coin shop and demanded that his gold be exchanged for silver. The shopkeeper willingly granted his demand.

We see that you're completely satisfied to have received 100 ounces of silver in exchange for your 100 ounces of gold.

And that, folks, is what's known as "dispensationalism".

Great analogy! Love it!