When was the A.O.D fulfilled?
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Of course not! We don't make God a liar just because some lack understanding of what is written!
You're reading the prophecy as though what is written in the New Testament has no bearing on the "whole house of Israel." Do you believe the writers of the New Testament contradict the prophets of Old?
Romans 9:27 (KJV) Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved:
Why does Elias, whom Paul is quoting, say that God has reserved only seven thousand men of Old, who have not bowed to the image of Baal? Is Elijah contradicting Ezekiel?
Romans 11:4-6 (KJV) But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal. Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace. And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
Does Micah also contradict Ezekiel? What does Micah prophesy that God would pardon iniquity and pass by the transgression of only "the remnant of His heritage"? Neither Elijah nor Micah believe that all the ethnic seeds of Abraham shall be saved.
Micah 7:18 (KJV) Who is a God like unto thee, that pardoneth iniquity, and passeth by the transgression of the remnant of his heritage? he retaineth not his anger for ever, because he delighteth in mercy.
You're trying to force the highly symbolic prophecy of Ezekiel to fit your preconceived doctrine. When you allow the New Testament to bring greater light and clarity to the words of the prophets of Old, you gain greater understanding of things written in shadow and symbolism that are anything but clear without the New Testament shedding greater light.
Eternally Grateful
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Lack understanding?
He said he would rule for 1000 years. even if you do not think it is 1000. you have to have him ruling for some time.
1. Satan is bound )has not happened yet)
2. Nature is restored. the lamb and lion sleep together, the baby and serpent are together, and no one is harmed,
3. The nations come to jerusalem and worship the king. and those who do not are punished wiht no rain.
So again I ask, You think God lied?
Eternally Grateful
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Is it I who hates Israel so much, or is it those who haven't a clue about Israel of God? As far as Israel as an ethnic people are concerned, I neither hate nor love them anymore than I do every other nation of the world. Because IN CHRIST there is neither Jew nor Gentile, but one people of faith!
Spiritual Israelite
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Which Israel are you talking about?
Romans 9:6 It is not as though God’s word had failed. For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel. 7 Nor because they are his descendants are they all Abraham’s children. On the contrary, “It is through Isaac that your offspring will be reckoned.” 8 In other words, it is not the children by physical descent who are God’s children, but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham’s offspring.
Are you talking about the Israel I highlighted in red or the Israel I highlighted in blue?
Spiritual Israelite
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This is just complete nonsense and total slander. Nowhere did he say he hates Israel. Stop lying.
Spiritual Israelite
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Spiritual Israelite
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Stop asking foolish questions. No one is obligated to agree with your OPINIONS.
Do you not believe that Jesus is reigning now?
Matthew 28:16 Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go 17 When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted. 18 Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.
Ephesians 1:19 and his incomparably great power for us who believe. That power is the same as the mighty strength 20 he exerted when he raised Christ from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly realms, 21 far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every name that is invoked, not only in the present age but also in the one to come. 22 And God placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church,
Colossians 1:12 and giving joyful thanks to the Father, who has qualified you to share in the inheritance of his holy people in the kingdom of light. 13 For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves, 14 in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.
Eternally Grateful
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Yes It is you
This also would be you
God made a covenant with the nation of Israel. He gave them some land, and said they would live in peace in that land.. He also made a promise to David, that his son would rule in that land with a rod of Iron.
You state he won;t keep the first promise,. and the 2nd will never happen
Amen
But God made a covenant with them, and said we are to love them based on the election Because the gifts of God are irrevocable.
no matter how much you claim God is done with them..
Spiritual Israelite
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You should apologize for saying he hates Israel when he clearly does not.
Every single promise made with Israel of Old has been fulfilled! God kept the covenant promise regarding the land of Caanan, unfortunately Israel of Old forsook the Covenant and turned away from God to worship and serve foreign gods of the nations around them. Now you appear to be mad at God for keeping His promise! It seems you're only happy with the promises of God if they align with your imagination!
Eternally Grateful
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I guess the word ETERNAL does not mean anything to you?
Let me ask. Do you believe Gods promise to you he called eternal is forever?
He gave it to them
But his covenant was not that he would just give it to them, He said I giuve it to you forever. He gave them no conditions.. The abrahamic covenant is an I will covenant.
Yes, And God said if they do it, he will punish them (lev 26) including to the point he would destroy their land and scatter them all over the world.
But the same God said if they repent. confess their sin, and the sins of their fathers. he would remember the promise, he would remember the land.
Paul said in Romans 11 this is what they do.. So your telling me that they will repent. but God will not remember his covenant with Abraham Isaac and Jacob? Sai it is not so
No. I am astonished you claim God will not continue to keep his promise. That what he called eternal. he changed his mind and made it conditional
Nope.
I am not unhappy. I KNOW God will keep his promise. Your the one that says he will not.
Your trying to make an eternal promise conditional. I bet you do that with his promise to us also don't you?
Me, My faith is in God. Not my ability or the ability of a nation of people God called out.
Spiritual Israelite
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Do you know what people are called who tell lies like you do? That's right. Liars. You are a liar. He absolutely did NOT say that God will not keep His promise and is NOT trying to make any eternal promise conditional.
tailgator
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The resurrection of Israel has everything to do with Jesus Christ.
Dude.Jesus is the resurection.Dont you know that?
You think the whole house of Israel is just going to up and come out of their graves on their own,?
Do you believe anything Jesus said about the resurection?
John 5:28-29
Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation
The whole house of Israel and in Ezekiel 37 has not risen from the dead and doesn't till Christ comes.The resurection of Israel did not take place in 1948 nor did it take place in 70 ad or the first century.It has not been fulfilled yet.
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The Light
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No where is the scripture does it say the Antichrist is a Roman.
Mmm. Yes. Nimod is the beast of the sea who is the eighth king that is of the seven?
Revelation 17
10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.
The beast that was and is not will come out of the pit.
Revelation 17
8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
The beast is a king of Babylon.
Isaiah 14
4 That thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon, and say, How hath the oppressor ceased! the golden city ceased!
The beast is an Assyrian
Isaiah 14
25 That I will break the Assyrian in my land, and upon my mountains tread him under foot: then shall his yoke depart from off them, and his burden depart from off their shoulders.
If you can name another person in history that has been a king of Babylon and an Assyrian I'm all ears.
There is more proof if this is not enough.
No where in scripture does the Word say that the antichrist is a Roman. You went off the tracks.
Hebrews 8
6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.
I KNOW God has kept His promise.
Don't you?
Eternally Grateful
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.I just gave you multiple passages.. I guess you struggle to read
Nope.
Yes. Now look at history
there are seven,,
5 are fallen
1. Egypt
2. Assyria
3. Babylon
4. Media Persia
5. Greece
one is
Rome was in power at the time John wrote revelation
and one is to come.
the revised roman empire. who will be in power when christ returns.
Not nimrod.
Yep.. Again, Not nimrod
Yep
Rome was, And is not. even today it is not. But Gabriel and David said it will arise again
Nope.. Babylon had its time, it was the first of daniels 4 kingdoms. The final one will be in power when christ returns (the rock that hits the feet)
rev 13; 2 Now the beast which I saw was like a leopard, his feet were like the feet of a bear, and his mouth like the mouth of a lion.
He had the characteristics of the first three beasts
the lion (babylon)
the bear (Media peris)
and the leapard (greece)
nice try
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