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amigo de christo

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Your Post #349 on 'sola scriptura' was excellent - thank you

I AGREE with you in the individual 'expression' of worship unto the LORD in the churches.

I do not believe any of the Apostles promoted 'denominations'.
They actually spoke against it rather strongly.

EXAMPLE: 1 Corinthians 1:10-14
Now I plead with you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment. For it has been declared to me concerning you, my brethren, by those of Chloe’s household, that there are contentions among you. Now I say this, that each of you says, “I am of Paul,” or “I am of Apollos,” or “I am of Cephas,” or “I am of Christ.” Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul?
may it be an ice cold frozen day in the lake of fire before i ever give out false hope as many now do unto this world
and the false religoins .
This lamb gonna preach JESUS the CHRIST and the aboslute DIRE NEED and NECESSITY
to beleive on HIM and I GOT ONE BOOK i am gonna REMIND all TO READ CONTINOUSLY the BIBLE .
Now visualize that david . cause the last time i checked i never heard
of the lake of fire ever freezing .
 
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guess by now some of our friends who are reading what i write
must be thinking oh dear we got us a dangerous fundie on our hands .
No , you got a lamb on your hands that WONT COMPROMISE ,.
 
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STAND and contend for the true faith . The more we learn the letters o the apostels , the gospels
revelation and all bible doctrine the far better off folks would have been .
WE GOT WOLVES in WOOL all over the places . THEY have infiltrated
even bringing in another gospel and yet many folks just continue to gather with them
and bull dog men like me that warn THEY FOLLOW a false gospel and that we ought not to heed once these men .
TIS all becoming about lets find a way to get along , THAT my dear sir will be the END of all who do so
they will fall , they will merge and they will love a lie and end up damned .
THERE WAS GOOD reason FOR EVERYTHING GOD SAID . IT WAS FOR US , FROM EVERY WARNING
to every good thing we should have done . IT WAS FOR OUR WELFARE
that we DO NOT HEED the things or do the things or lust after the the things the evil did .
EVERYTHING written in that bible , IS MEAT FOR OUR SOUL . EVERY WORD OF IT david . EVERY WORD of it .
"Beloved, while I was very diligent to write to you concerning our common salvation, I found it necessary to write to you exhorting you to contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints." - Jude
 

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"Beloved, while I was very diligent to write to you concerning our common salvation, I found it necessary to write to you exhorting you to contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints." - Jude
Now that jude we can heed . bible time . exactly my friend .
Ol george busch once said read my lips no new taxes .
well read my type , NO COMPROMISE on the WORD and words of GOD . BIBLE TIME my friend .
 

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"Beloved, while I was very diligent to write to you concerning our common salvation, I found it necessary to write to you exhorting you to contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints." - Jude
I will give you a trivia question .
FROM what main entity did the idea first come that we and muslims serve the same GOD in different ways .
And that same entity has grown to say , that now all religoins are finding god in their own way
implyin that even buddists , muslims , even athiest , and other relgions do know God .
Same entity that has praticially envoloved all religoins now and all faiths within christendom .
A hint
what did the kenneys and sold out leaders say to our churches
did they say HEY church we are all new age now
NO sir. what are they saying , we all CATHOLIC . IT CAME FROM THE HARLOT dude . FROM HER .
it was vatican two that first said we serve and the muslims serve the same God .
Now dont let the catholics lie , YOU GO read it FOR YOURSELF
and then go to and behold what later even pope john paul did
as he gathered ALL major religoins together
and YOU SEE What even pope francis has done . A WHORE never rests my friend
and her leaders , her men are never satisfied with power , THEY DESIER ALL POWER and control now my friend .
BUT , i dont heed harlots or the HARLOT . so marvel not if we be hated only more and more as time goes on
for NOT COMPROMISING , FOR NOT SELLING OUT , but rather for Standing FIRM on that ROCK SOLID
foundation and doctrine that JESUS and later the apostels delivered . Its gettting bad david . real bad .
 
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You all now sound identical . this has been the mantra of the protestant church
Any time one brings correction the response is SO You THINK YOU GOD judger , you think you JESUS now .
The Harlot has taken the minds of men down a path where there is no life
and the light , the truth that could expose it , it has trained its children to accuse .
And as the RCC so too the prostestant , they can quoate the scrips
but use the scrips to fight against those who say often , WE NEED TO GET IN THE BIBLE TO LEARN for ourselves .
The harlot reigns and as she has reigned from JERUSALEM and her leaders WHO sat in jerusalem
taught and seduced the people . SO too has she taken control of Christendom and every denomination within .
MY ADVICE STANDS . GET YOURSELVES INTO THE BIBLE . this call i have made to ALLL of christendom
both the catholic and prostant realm , YOUR LEADERS HAVE SOLD YOU OUT and many have loved to have it so .
amigo, slight aside... Is English your first language? I'm not sure I'm completely understanding all that you posted.

My question for you, then, is: Did Christ establish a Church or a Bible to spread His truths? Keep in mind that the vast, vast majority of humans were illiterate until the latest 100 years in history. So, a Bible-reading approach would have effectively excluded the vast, vast majority of humanity. Only a tiny percentage of elite could read and write.

And it sounds, from what I can understand of your post, that you think truth lies solely with the individual, i.e., whatever he/she thinks.
 
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amigo, slight aside... Is English your first language? I'm not sure I'm completely understanding all that you posted.

My question for you, then, is: Did Christ establish a Church or a Bible to spread His truths? Keep in mind that the vast, vast majority of humans were illiterate until the latest 100 years in history. So, a Bible-reading approach would have effectively excluded the vast, vast majority of humanity. Only a tiny percentage of elite could read and write.

And it sounds, from what I can understand of your post, that you think truth lies solely with the individual, i.e., whatever he/she thinks.
he established a church that STOOD ON ROCK SOLID GOD INSPIRED TRUTH .
something that i cannot seem to find in most all churches now .
Rather they sell the idea as they twist and omit doctrines , that heck we need to heed their men .
NOW dont think i say this just about the RCC . HECK ITS TRULY ALL OVER the protestant realm too .
But i got real good news . real good news , I DONT COMPROMISE .
and i wont compromise . Hope that encourages ya .
 
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amigo, slight aside... Is English your first language? I'm not sure I'm completely understanding all that you posted.

My question for you, then, is: Did Christ establish a Church or a Bible to spread His truths? Keep in mind that the vast, vast majority of humans were illiterate until the latest 100 years in history. So, a Bible-reading approach would have effectively excluded the vast, vast majority of humanity. Only a tiny percentage of elite could read and write.

And it sounds, from what I can understand of your post, that you think truth lies solely with the individual, i.e., whatever he/she thinks.
You been sold a bad bill . most of the early modern world might have been illterate .
But most men back in them early days , they spoke more than one langauge pardner . THEY were actually
quite smarter and much more intellectual than what i see today , NOW THAT IS A FACT .
And when they gathered you can bet they read scrips and letters . and the men leading them taught truth .
SOMETHING this generation has not done in a long long time . in fact
for a very long time most churches have not even searched the scrips for themselves
to actually see and to learn truth for themselves . they rather sat under and heeded men gone wrong .
Popes , to calvin and scores of others , folks just sat and listened to the wrong stuff pardner .
and today ITS FAR WORSE THAN EVER . so
i got some news , some good news . IT AINT TOO late . PICK UP BIBLE , READ FOR YOU
and stop being so darn trusing in a system and in men .
LET GOD be true but every man a liar . YOU learn bible FOR YOU .
 
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amigo, slight aside... Is English your first language? I'm not sure I'm completely understanding all that you posted.

My question for you, then, is: Did Christ establish a Church or a Bible to spread His truths? Keep in mind that the vast, vast majority of humans were illiterate until the latest 100 years in history. So, a Bible-reading approach would have effectively excluded the vast, vast majority of humanity. Only a tiny percentage of elite could read and write.

And it sounds, from what I can understand of your post, that you think truth lies solely with the individual, i.e., whatever he/she thinks.
Pilate wrote the sign above JESUS head in three main languages
YEAH PEOPLE COULD READ . most of rome was very high on education
as were the greeks , as even were the jews . so i aint buyingit my friend .
Now during the dark ages , yeah there were problems and a lot in those days
were peoples of conquered tribes and etc . not all could probably read and write
But by then , WE HAD THE CANON pard . and true men would have read it to them .
But as we see the RCC DIDNT LIKE THIS cause it lost control and influence
over the masses when said masses began to READ for themselves .
Rather odd , READ FOR THEMSELVES . if folks were so darn illiterate
then why did they do all to publish , to write it .
AGAIN i think you are thinking more of early america my friend .
 
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amigo, slight aside... Is English your first language? I'm not sure I'm completely understanding all that you posted.

My question for you, then, is: Did Christ establish a Church or a Bible to spread His truths? Keep in mind that the vast, vast majority of humans were illiterate until the latest 100 years in history. So, a Bible-reading approach would have effectively excluded the vast, vast majority of humanity. Only a tiny percentage of elite could read and write.

And it sounds, from what I can understand of your post, that you think truth lies solely with the individual, i.e., whatever he/she thinks.
No truth does not lie with the individual . ITS WITH GOD and there is plenty of it IN THE BIBLE .
if ones heart is truly after GOD , beleive you me they can learn it in time for themselves .
 
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amigo, slight aside... Is English your first language? I'm not sure I'm completely understanding all that you posted.

My question for you, then, is: Did Christ establish a Church or a Bible to spread His truths? Keep in mind that the vast, vast majority of humans were illiterate until the latest 100 years in history. So, a Bible-reading approach would have effectively excluded the vast, vast majority of humanity. Only a tiny percentage of elite could read and write.

And it sounds, from what I can understand of your post, that you think truth lies solely with the individual, i.e., whatever he/she thinks.
Futhermore in this day and age most folks can read . SO open the bible and let us learn for ourselves .
I do wish there were good teachers leading the churches who could help teach and instruct the people .
Most are now decieved , not all of course , but most are .
Everyone is buying into the false love they THINK is of GOD
but forgot , LOVE , aka CHARITY dont rejoice in inquity , in lies , ONLY IN TRUTH .
AND EVERY WORD in said bible IS TRUTH . but i sure dont seem to see me many
that embrace them words . at most they embrace only parts o the scrips that best suit THEM SELVES . deceptoin my friend .
its called deceptoin and a love of self .
 
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Pilate wrote the sign above JESUS head in three main languages
YEAH PEOPLE COULD READ . most of rome was very high on education
as were the greeks , as even were the jews . so i aint buyingit my friend .
Now during the dark ages , yeah there were problems and a lot in those days
were peoples of conquered tribes and etc . not all could probably read and write
But by then , WE HAD THE CANON pard . and true men would have read it to them .
But as we see the RCC DIDNT LIKE THIS cause it lost control and influence
over the masses when said masses began to READ for themselves .
Rather odd , READ FOR THEMSELVES . if folks were so darn illiterate
then why did they do all to publish , to write it .
AGAIN i think you are thinking more of early america my friend .
That is why it is called the 'DARK Ages" = Mankind drifted away from God into Barbarism and Roman Catholicism
 

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That is why it is called the 'DARK Ages" = Mankind drifted away from God into Barbarism and Roman Catholicism
exactly . but even then GOD always had his true church of lambs who sipped not of her cup .
Today we are entered into a very dark time indeed . only most call it light and love . that too is a fact .
The great falling away has GONE MASSIVE david and now the HARLOT cries for the great reclamation .
 

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amigo, slight aside... Is English your first language? I'm not sure I'm completely understanding all that you posted.

My question for you, then, is: Did Christ establish a Church or a Bible to spread His truths? Keep in mind that the vast, vast majority of humans were illiterate until the latest 100 years in history. So, a Bible-reading approach would have effectively excluded the vast, vast majority of humanity. Only a tiny percentage of elite could read and write.

And it sounds, from what I can understand of your post, that you think truth lies solely with the individual, i.e., whatever he/she thinks.
Very dark days are upon christendom and yet many call it light .
But remember this , if the light that be in one be darkness then great is that darkness .
This people puts light for darkness and darkness for light .
Those who rule over them teach falsely and this people loves to have it so
as they cry to the true ones , AWAY with that biblical version of GOD and of HIS CHRIST
and preach unto our ears the one that serves our sins and gives us our fleshy desires .
GOT bad news , that one aint JESUS the CHRIST , it be the devil my friend .
As always masquerading as an angel of light
as do his minstiris as men of righteousness . We are in the darkest of times
and yet the blind holler we have light , we see
and to those who do see they holler away with you dumb bible blind sheep .
 
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Futhermore in this day and age most folks can read . SO open the bible and let us learn for ourselves .
I do wish there were good teachers leading the churches who could help teach and instruct the people .
Most are now decieved , not all of course , but most are .
Everyone is buying into the false love they THINK is of GOD
but forgot , LOVE , aka CHARITY dont rejoice in inquity , in lies , ONLY IN TRUTH .
AND EVERY WORD in said bible IS TRUTH . but i sure dont seem to see me many
that embrace them words . at most they embrace only parts o the scrips that best suit THEM SELVES . deceptoin my friend .
its called deceptoin and a love of self .
LOL. Our failed educational system strikes again.
 

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That is why it is called the 'DARK Ages" = Mankind drifted away from God into Barbarism and Roman Catholicism
Put on your thinking cap, brother. Read slowly. The following is not written by a Catholic, but by Rodney Stark, who is not defending Catholicism; he is defending history, so there is no 'Catholic bias'. I am not trying to gouge your eyes out, I am trying to inform you, IF you can be humble enough to accept it.

”10 To summarize, Western history consists of four major eras:
(1) classical antiquity,
(2) then the Dark Ages when the Church dominated, followed by
(3) the Renaissance-Enlightenment that led the way to
(4) modern times.

For several centuries that has been the fundamental organizing scheme for every textbook devoted to Western history,11 despite the fact that serious historians have known for decades that this scheme is a complete fraud“an indestructible fossil of self-congratulatory Renaissance humanism.”12 It is appropriate to use the term “Renaissance” to identify a particular period in the arts when there was renewed interest in classical styles and to distinguish this period from the Gothic or the Baroque. But it is inappropriate to apply this term to identify the rebirth of intellectual progress following the Dark Ages because there never were any Dark Ages.

Even the respectable encyclopedias now define the Dark Ages as a myth.

>The Columbia Encyclopedia rejects the term, noting that “medieval civilization is no longer thought to have been so dim.”
>Britannica disdains the term Dark Ages as “pejorative.”
>And Wikipedia defines the Dark Ages as “a supposed period of intellectual darkness after the fall of Rome.”


As for the recovery of classical learning, to the extent it ever was lost, Church scholars accomplished the recovery long before the Renaissance. And if one wishes to identify an Age of Reason, it must be redated to have begun very early in the Christian era, for the Western faith in reason originated in Christian theology.

To assume that the sacking of the city of Rome in 410 by Alaric and his Gothic forces caused “the whole world to perish,” as Saint Jerome (347–420) lamented, is to assume that the only civilized people of that time lived in the city itself. But of course, true Romans lived all over the empire, and they didn’t suddenly become ignorant when the city fell. Indeed, at the time, Rome was not even still the capital of the empire; the emperor had moved to Ravenna. The fall of the city was, no doubt, of immense symbolic importance, but symbols should not be mistaken for reality. Of even greater importance, the Goths who conquered Rome were not barbarians, regardless of what the Romans called them. Alaric had served as a commander in the Roman army, and the majority of his troops were Roman army veterans. By the same token, the “barbarian north” had long since been fully “Romanized” and sustained sophisticated manufacturing centers with active trade routes even to the Far East.

For example, as early at 250 CE, the island city of Helgö near Stockholm, Sweden, was a flourishing industrial center turning out “large quantities of iron tools and weapons, bronze jewelry, gold ornaments, and other products … [including] locks and keys … [and] glass beads.” Coins found at the site of Helgö show it was involved in a vast trade network, and so does the finding of a “bronze Buddha figure made in India.”13 Nor was Helgö an anomaly: there were numerous industrial centers like it all over northern Europe, home of the supposed barbarians.

Incredibly, not only was there no “fall” into “Dark Ages,” this was “one of the great innovative eras of mankind,” as technology was developed and put into use “on a scale no civilization had previously known” as the French historian Jean Gimpel put it.14 In fact, it was during the Dark Ages that Europe took the great technological leap forward that put it ahead of the rest of the world.15 How could historians have so misrepresented things? In part, the notion that Europe fell into the “Dark Ages” was a hoax perpetrated by very antireligious intellectuals such as Voltaire and Gibbon, who were determined to claim that theirs was the era of “Enlightenment.”

Another factor was that intellectuals too often have no interest in anything but literary matters. It is quite true that after the fall of Rome, educated Europeans did not write nearly as elegant Latin as had the best Roman writers. For many, that was sufficient cause to regard this as a backward time. In addition, during this era, only limited attention was paid to classical thinkers such as Plato and Aristotle, and that too was taken as proof of widespread ignorance.

Another component contributing to the myth of the Dark Ages was that in this era there were no longer large cities having hundreds of thousands of residents, as had ancient Rome and Alexandria.16 It seemed obvious that high culture could not have been sustained in the small communities of medieval Europe—in the year 1000 there were only 20,000 inhabitants in Paris, not many more in London, and Rome had shrunk to fewer than 30,000.17 But perhaps the most important factor in the myth of the Dark Ages was the inability of intellectuals to value or even to notice the nuts and bolts of real life. Hence, revolutions in agriculture, weaponry and warfare, nonhuman power, transportation, manufacturing, and commerce went unappreciated.

So too did remarkable moral progress.
For example, at the fall of Rome there was slavery everywhere in Europe; by the time of the Renaissance it was long gone. But what is truly difficult to explain is how the creators of the Dark Ages myth could have overlooked what would seem to have been their chief interest: high culture.

Nevertheless, they missed or dismissed the enormous progress that took place in music, art, literature, education, and science. I have written at length in How the West Won (2014) on what truly took place during the mythical era of the Dark Ages. Here a summary will suffice.

Progress in Technology
-The Romans made little use of water or wind power—preferring manual labor performed by slaves.
-An inventory conducted in the ninth century found that one-third of the estates along the Seine River in the area around Paris had water mills, the majority of them on Church-owned properties.18
-Several centuries later there was one mill every seventy feet along this stretch of the river!19
-Meanwhile, across the channel, the Domesday Book, compiled in 1086 as a forerunner of the modern census, reported that there were at least 5,624 water-powered mills already operating in England, or one for every fifty families, and this is known to be an undercount.20
-Among many other things, mills such as these mechanized the manufacture of woolen cloth and soon enabled England to dominate the European market.21
- Many dams also were constructed during the 'Dark Ages'; one at Toulouse, built around 1120, was more than thirteen hundred feet across and was constructed by driving thousands of giant oak logs into the riverbed to form a front and rear palisade and then was filled with dirt and stone.22 Some leading historians whose work informed this chapter.

Meanwhile, agriculture was revolutionized.24 First came the shift to a three-field system wherein one-third of the productive land was left unplanted each year while continuing to be cultivated (to remove weeds) and fertilized. The result of this renewal of the land was far greater production. In addition, the invention of the heavy plow permitted far better cultivation of the wetter, denser soils north of Italy, and the introduction of the horse collar permitted the replacement of teams of slow oxen with teams of horses, thus at least doubling the speed of cultivation. Selective plant breeding also began in the monasteries, resulting in more productive and hardy crops.

Altogether these Dark Ages achievements fed a larger population much better and provided sustenance for larger urban populations. Also of immense importance was the invention of chimneys, which allowed buildings and homes to be heated without needing holes in the roof to let out smoke while letting in rain, snow, and cold air. Another revolutionary innovation was eyeglasses, which were invented in about 1280 and almost immediately went into mass production, thus allowing huge numbers of people to lead productive lives who otherwise could not have done so.25 In 1492, when Columbus set out on his first voyage west, eyeglasses still were known only in Europe.
These are only a few of the important technological innovations achieved during the Dark Ages.

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How the Catholic Church Built Western Civilization​

Ask someone today where Western Civilization originated, and he or she might say Greece or Rome. But what is the ultimate source of Western Civilization? Bestselling author and professor Thomas E. Woods, Jr. provides the long neglected answer: the Catholic Church. In the new paperback edition of his critically-acclaimed book, How the Catholic Church Built Western Civilization, Woods goes far beyond the familiar tale of monks copying manuscripts and preserving the wisdom of classical antiquity. Gifts such as modern science, free-market economics, art, music, and the idea of human rights come from the Catholic Church, explains Woods. In How the Catholic Church Built Western Civilization, you’ll learn:
  • Why modern science was born in the Catholic Church
  • How Catholic priests developed the idea of free-market economics five hundred years before Adam Smith
  • How the Catholic Church invented the university
  • Why what you know about the Galileo affair is wrong
  • How Western law grew out of Church canon law
  • How the Church humanized the West by insisting on the sacredness of all human life

    No institution has done more to shape Western civilization than the two-thousand-year-old Catholic Church and in ways that many of us have forgotten or never known. How the Catholic Church Built Western Civilization is essential reading for recovering this lost truth.
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Put on your thinking cap, brother. Read slowly. The following is not written by a Catholic, but by Rodney Stark, who is not defending Catholicism; he is defending history, so there is no 'Catholic bias'. I am not trying to gouge your eyes out, I am trying to inform you, IF you can be humble enough to accept it.

”10 To summarize, Western history consists of four major eras:
(1) classical antiquity,
(2) then the Dark Ages when the Church dominated, followed by
(3) the Renaissance-Enlightenment that led the way to
(4) modern times.

For several centuries that has been the fundamental organizing scheme for every textbook devoted to Western history,11 despite the fact that serious historians have known for decades that this scheme is a complete fraud“an indestructible fossil of self-congratulatory Renaissance humanism.”12 It is appropriate to use the term “Renaissance” to identify a particular period in the arts when there was renewed interest in classical styles and to distinguish this period from the Gothic or the Baroque. But it is inappropriate to apply this term to identify the rebirth of intellectual progress following the Dark Ages because there never were any Dark Ages.

Even the respectable encyclopedias now define the Dark Ages as a myth.

>The Columbia Encyclopedia rejects the term, noting that “medieval civilization is no longer thought to have been so dim.”
>Britannica disdains the term Dark Ages as “pejorative.”
>And Wikipedia defines the Dark Ages as “a supposed period of intellectual darkness after the fall of Rome.”


As for the recovery of classical learning, to the extent it ever was lost, Church scholars accomplished the recovery long before the Renaissance. And if one wishes to identify an Age of Reason, it must be redated to have begun very early in the Christian era, for the Western faith in reason originated in Christian theology.

To assume that the sacking of the city of Rome in 410 by Alaric and his Gothic forces caused “the whole world to perish,” as Saint Jerome (347–420) lamented, is to assume that the only civilized people of that time lived in the city itself. But of course, true Romans lived all over the empire, and they didn’t suddenly become ignorant when the city fell. Indeed, at the time, Rome was not even still the capital of the empire; the emperor had moved to Ravenna. The fall of the city was, no doubt, of immense symbolic importance, but symbols should not be mistaken for reality. Of even greater importance, the Goths who conquered Rome were not barbarians, regardless of what the Romans called them. Alaric had served as a commander in the Roman army, and the majority of his troops were Roman army veterans. By the same token, the “barbarian north” had long since been fully “Romanized” and sustained sophisticated manufacturing centers with active trade routes even to the Far East.

For example, as early at 250 CE, the island city of Helgö near Stockholm, Sweden, was a flourishing industrial center turning out “large quantities of iron tools and weapons, bronze jewelry, gold ornaments, and other products … [including] locks and keys … [and] glass beads.” Coins found at the site of Helgö show it was involved in a vast trade network, and so does the finding of a “bronze Buddha figure made in India.”13 Nor was Helgö an anomaly: there were numerous industrial centers like it all over northern Europe, home of the supposed barbarians.

Incredibly, not only was there no “fall” into “Dark Ages,” this was “one of the great innovative eras of mankind,” as technology was developed and put into use “on a scale no civilization had previously known” as the French historian Jean Gimpel put it.14 In fact, it was during the Dark Ages that Europe took the great technological leap forward that put it ahead of the rest of the world.15 How could historians have so misrepresented things? In part, the notion that Europe fell into the “Dark Ages” was a hoax perpetrated by very antireligious intellectuals such as Voltaire and Gibbon, who were determined to claim that theirs was the era of “Enlightenment.”

Another factor was that intellectuals too often have no interest in anything but literary matters. It is quite true that after the fall of Rome, educated Europeans did not write nearly as elegant Latin as had the best Roman writers. For many, that was sufficient cause to regard this as a backward time. In addition, during this era, only limited attention was paid to classical thinkers such as Plato and Aristotle, and that too was taken as proof of widespread ignorance.

Another component contributing to the myth of the Dark Ages was that in this era there were no longer large cities having hundreds of thousands of residents, as had ancient Rome and Alexandria.16 It seemed obvious that high culture could not have been sustained in the small communities of medieval Europe—in the year 1000 there were only 20,000 inhabitants in Paris, not many more in London, and Rome had shrunk to fewer than 30,000.17 But perhaps the most important factor in the myth of the Dark Ages was the inability of intellectuals to value or even to notice the nuts and bolts of real life. Hence, revolutions in agriculture, weaponry and warfare, nonhuman power, transportation, manufacturing, and commerce went unappreciated.

So too did remarkable moral progress.
For example, at the fall of Rome there was slavery everywhere in Europe; by the time of the Renaissance it was long gone. But what is truly difficult to explain is how the creators of the Dark Ages myth could have overlooked what would seem to have been their chief interest: high culture.

Nevertheless, they missed or dismissed the enormous progress that took place in music, art, literature, education, and science. I have written at length in How the West Won (2014) on what truly took place during the mythical era of the Dark Ages. Here a summary will suffice.

Progress in Technology
-The Romans made little use of water or wind power—preferring manual labor performed by slaves.
-An inventory conducted in the ninth century found that one-third of the estates along the Seine River in the area around Paris had water mills, the majority of them on Church-owned properties.18
-Several centuries later there was one mill every seventy feet along this stretch of the river!19
-Meanwhile, across the channel, the Domesday Book, compiled in 1086 as a forerunner of the modern census, reported that there were at least 5,624 water-powered mills already operating in England, or one for every fifty families, and this is known to be an undercount.20
-Among many other things, mills such as these mechanized the manufacture of woolen cloth and soon enabled England to dominate the European market.21
- Many dams also were constructed during the 'Dark Ages'; one at Toulouse, built around 1120, was more than thirteen hundred feet across and was constructed by driving thousands of giant oak logs into the riverbed to form a front and rear palisade and then was filled with dirt and stone.22 Some leading historians whose work informed this chapter.

Meanwhile, agriculture was revolutionized.24 First came the shift to a three-field system wherein one-third of the productive land was left unplanted each year while continuing to be cultivated (to remove weeds) and fertilized. The result of this renewal of the land was far greater production. In addition, the invention of the heavy plow permitted far better cultivation of the wetter, denser soils north of Italy, and the introduction of the horse collar permitted the replacement of teams of slow oxen with teams of horses, thus at least doubling the speed of cultivation. Selective plant breeding also began in the monasteries, resulting in more productive and hardy crops.

Altogether these Dark Ages achievements fed a larger population much better and provided sustenance for larger urban populations. Also of immense importance was the invention of chimneys, which allowed buildings and homes to be heated without needing holes in the roof to let out smoke while letting in rain, snow, and cold air. Another revolutionary innovation was eyeglasses, which were invented in about 1280 and almost immediately went into mass production, thus allowing huge numbers of people to lead productive lives who otherwise could not have done so.25 In 1492, when Columbus set out on his first voyage west, eyeglasses still were known only in Europe.
These are only a few of the important technological innovations achieved during the Dark Ages.



There are two world history accounts.

a.) the unsaved world view
b.) God's View that comes to us from the WORD

What you cannot SEE is that no matter what the Era of History was/is, God continues to SAVE thru the Word.
 
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