When was the A.O.D fulfilled?

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A new covenant does not mean the land of Canaan changed to mars.

The new covenant is God's law written upon the hearts of men and inside them.

It does not change God's land promise to Abraham.
The hope of Israel was/is Christ. Not real estate in the Middle East.

Hebrews 3:14-4:1 says, For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end; While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation. For some, when they had heard, did provoke: howbeit not all that came out of Egypt by Moses. But with whom was he grieved forty years? was it not with them that had sinned, whose carcases fell in the wilderness? And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not? So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.”

Let us pause for a moment and note what happened here to God’s people and see what God is saying in this passage. They “came out of Egypt” which is a picture of the world. But that is not where it was supposed to finish. They were to then enter into “his rest.” Of course, in the Old Testament the physical Promised Land was the goal. Canaan was always viewed as the Promised Land, the earthly place of rest of the people of God in the Old Testament; however, it was not viewed as the eternal rest.

When we consider the restoration promises God gave Israel by way of the Old Testament prophets, we must do so through the lens of the person and work of Christ.

Hebrews 4:1-11 tells us, “Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it. For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works. And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief: Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts. For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day. There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.”

The place of rest is “a promise” (Hebrews 4:1) and a provision of God for the people of God. That rest is not an abstract thing – it is Christ. The writer of Hebrews presents the Israelites failure to literally enter into their rest (the Promised Land), because of their disobedience and lack of faith, as a warning to New Testament professing believers against not entering their rest in Christ through faith. That land can only be entered by faith or “with faith” (Hebrews 4:2), thus proving we are looking at the great salvation that Christ offers. When a man enters into that place of rest (salvation in Christ) he ceases “from his own works” (Hebrews 4:10). One can never gain favor with God through “good works” – this is a repeated truth throughout Scripture.

The writer to the Hebrews here relates entering into rest under the new covenant as entering into Christ in salvation. This is the inheritance for every saint of God (Jew or Gentile) in our day. He is everything. It is a spiritual condition that brings peace to the soul, not a troubled geographical location in the Middle East. It is simply described in this reading as “his rest” – Christ’s rest. Moreover, that rest comes through simple faith in the Savior.
 
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And it will be in the land of Canaan which God promised Abraham.


But you say God lied to Abraham
Thanks for the guffaws.

Abraham is going to abandon the Heavenly City and Country where he now resides for an accursed piece of real estate that you've reserved for him.

Tell us another one. :laughing:
 
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Jerusalem looks like it's not destroyed the last time I checked.The Pharisees have all but taken control of the government and the king sitting upon his throne is ready to give his subjects his mark.
Is there a temple today? Are there sacrifices? No! Their religion is defunct. All you have today is Christ-rejecting apostate Judaism.
 

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It was Israel’s wanton rejection of Messiah that drew this widespread devastation upon the land. The Jewish people are clearly the recipients of this great judgment, which is similarly described in the respective readings as the “wrath,” “vengeance” and “tribulation great” of God. But why such vengeance? Because the Jewish nation had finally rejected God’s only provision for sin and uncleanness – their Messiah – by crucifying Him. It was now time for God to punish them with His “wrath” for this great iniquitous transgression. Christ was speaking to a company of Christ-rejecting inhabitants of Jerusalem, and a "generation" nearly 2,000 years ago, which would witness this tribulation great. However, it was to be the vengeance and wrath of God, not an end-time anti-Christ. Nowhere did Christ say that the aforementioned tribulation great would be global.

Also worth noting, the fact that Christ advances three particular types of situation that would prove restrictive to anyone fleeing the described destruction. Firstly, a woman laden down with the burden and responsibility of a weaning child; understandably she would be physically hampered in her escape. Secondly, fleeing during the winter season, obviously because the elements would have proved an undoubted restriction to Jews 2,000 years ago. Winter conditions in ancient days would have been a real issue then but not for us in our modern civilization. The poorest saints today have access to able vehicles that are well-maintained and well-heated. However, flight during winter would have been a real restriction for early Church saints. Thirdly, fleeing “on the sabbath day.” Now, why would such a matter be a limitation to one escaping the great tribulation? Simple, because of the strict Pharisaic Law in Israel at that time that restricted the actual distance a Jew could walk on the Sabbath day (Friday sunset to Saturday sunset), as it was a religious day of rest. Jews were only allowed to only walk three quarters of a mile on the Sabbath before they would break the day of rest. This was a religious rule that enjoyed no scriptural foundation. The Jews would be snared with their own limitation. How can the Futurists serious relate such a restriction to a post-secret rapture tribulation? This last assertion further supports the view that the Jewish capital is the setting and the Jews living in that city (prior to AD 70) are the subjects receiving this warning.

Luke’s account of this great tribulation limits this great tribulation to “the land” (singular) as in Israel, not many lands (plural) as some would have us believe. He also shows how the wrath will be reserved for “this people” who possess the land – namely the Jews. He explains how these Jews shall “fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.” The wordings of these texts make it impossible for it to be a worldwide end-time tribulation.

Also, in carefully comparing these three accounts, with their related expressions, which describe the one identical event, we note some very vital information. Speaking of the same situation, all three writers say, “when ye see” a certain thing appear “then” that is your sign to “flee.” What was that thing? Matthew and Mark describe that sign as “the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet.” Notwithstanding, they then both proceed to situate that abomination of desolation, using slightly differing terminology, “in the holy place” (Matthew 24:15) and “where it ought not” (Mark 13:14).

Dr. Luke is more specific, and seems to identify both the warning that would appear, and the location (or holy place) where it would appear. He states, “when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.” After identifying this, he then declares, in near identical language to the other two accounts, “Then let them which are in Judaea flee.” Plainly, the appearance of the sign is the actual signal that the Lord gives to occasion the escape from Jerusalem. We must therefore assume, from this corresponding accounts, that the appearance of the desolater, which was to be the actual signal to flee, was the “compassed” or circling invading heathen Roman armies, which had come to specially destroy the city, and that the “holy place” is the actual city of Jerusalem, or the temple therein.

The only thing that would push us away from the idea that the temple was the actual holy place described is that Luke just simply mentions Jerusalem. Also, one would image that if an invading army had advanced as far as the temple, in the centre of Jerusalem, then it would be far too late for to flee. Surely the harmony and correlation between these three passages, including the unquestionable restricting of the persecution to Jerusalem and the Jewish people makes this a profound historic record of God’s wrath upon the Jewish nation for their rejection of Messiah and the continuation of the then abolished sacrifices.

The command to flee was taken up by the believing Jews who indeed acted upon the Lord's counsel and therefore escaped this judgment of the Lord. They were consequently able to take the Gospel out throughout the Middle East. I don't know how you can't see this. Maybe you don't want to see it?

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Jesus didn't tell his disciples to flee.He told them to lift up their heads.

Luke 21

28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.


It is the unbelievers who flee from the Lord on the day of the Lord.The saints are gathered to him.at his coming.The saints don't flee.


Zech 14
5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
 

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Is there a temple today? Are there sacrifices? No! Their religion is defunct. All you have today is Christ-rejecting apostate Judaism.
There is a sacrifice.A sacrifice to Moleck.
Revelation calls it the beast.
 

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Jesus didn't tell his disciples to flee.He told them to lift up their heads.

Luke 21

28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.


It is the unbelievers who flee from the Lord on the day of the Lord.Tye saints are gathered to him.at his coming.


Zech 14
5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
You have a major problem with addressing what others write. That is because it exposes your error. Please address it and stop avoiding. Your normal evasive one-liner dismissals do not cut it.
 
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And it will be in the land of Canaan which God promised Abraham.


But you say God lied to Abraham
Please find a Bible that has Hebrews 11:8-16 in it so that you can know God promised him something even better than that. Why are you opposed to God giving him and his seed something even better? That's not lying, that's a case of God hiding a great surprise until a later time when it was revealed in the New Testament. That's where it is also revealed that God's promises to Abraham and his seed were to Christ and those who belong to Christ (Galatians 3:16,29). Do you own a New Testament? You seem to know nothing about what is taught in it.
 
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There is a sacrifice.A sacrifice to Moleck.
Revelation calls it the beast.
Exactly! They are apostate! They need to come to Christ and become Christians if they want to make it.
 

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Thanks for the guffaws.

Abraham is going to abandon the Heavenly City and Country where he now resides for an accursed piece of real estate that you've reserved for him.

Tell us another one. :laughing:
Abraham is not the one sitting on the throne of God.Abraham has not ascended into heaven.That would be Christ.


John 3:13
No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man.
 

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Abraham is not the one sitting on the throne of God.Abraham has not ascended into heaven.That would be Christ.


John 3:13
No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man.
Where is Abraham now?
 

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You have a major problem with addressing what others write. That is because it exposes your error. Please address it and stop avoiding. Your normal evasive one-liner dismissals do not cut it.
You have a major issue with the word of God.

The saints of God do not flee.
 

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Where is Abraham now?
Buried in the land he bought from the Canaanites.
The day of the redemption of the purchased possession has not taken place yet.
The resurrection of the dead has not taken place yet.It takes place at the last trump. That is when the dead are raised and all are changed.

1 corinth 15:52
In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

Tell me this,are you immortal or can you be killed?
 

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Buried in the land he bought from the Canaanites.
The day of the redemption of the purchased possession has not taken place yet.
The resurrection of the dead has not taken place yet.It takes place at the last trump. That is when the dead are raised and all are changed.

1 corinth 15:52
In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

Tell me this,are you immortal or can you be killed?
Where is his soul/spirit?
 

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Yes they did. Who do you think he was talking to?
Zech is a prophet who is talking to Jews
The saints are gathered to Christ at his coming and are with Christ

It is the unbelieving Jews who have received the mark of the beast who flee.

5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.


Notice the saints are with the Lord at his coming.They are not fleeing.
Just like Paul said .We are gather to Christ at his coming.Paul does not say we are to flee from.the Lord.
 

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Zech is a prophet who is talking to Jews
The saints are gathered to Christ at his coming and are with Christ

It is the unbelieving Jews who have received the mark of the beast who flee.

5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.


Notice the saints are with the Lord at his coming.They are not fleeing.
Just like Paul said .We are gather to Christ at his coming.
I give you the evidence above that forbids that but (as usual) you ducked around it.