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amigo de christo

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Matthew 16:15-18
He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.


Jesus is saying He would build His Church upon revelation knowledge, not on Peter.

There's no record in the NT that the other Apostles though Peter was the lead Apostle or that He was in authority over all other Apostles.

John 16:14
He (Holy Ghost) shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall show (reveal) it unto you.


Peter was not any more special than the rest of the Apostles.

At the Council at Jerusalem where all the Apostles had the big meeting to figure out if Christians had to be circumcised or not... the overseer what the Apostle John, not Peter.

If Pete was "the pope" and was in authority over all other Apostles, then he would have presided over the meeting but he did not.

When the disciples argued over who among them would be the greatest (Luke 22:24, Luke 9:46, Mark 9:33), Jesus and the other disciples did not indicate Peter was in authority over the other disciples.

Since catholics forbid their minsters to marry (which is a doctrine of demons, see 1 Timothy 4:3-6) we know Peter could not have been a pope or a minister among catholics because God's Word tells us Peter was married and has a wife (Matt. 8:14-15, Luke 4:38-39)
When peter and john had prayed and the lame man was healed
and the peoples ran unto them . DID THEY
A . say hold up lets put peter in a chair so you all can kiss his ring
OR B . we are men JUST LIKE YOU , why look on us ..........
When peter entered into the house of cornelious and cornelious kneeled before him
What did peter say .
A . here let me sit in a chair so you can kiss my ring
or
B . stand up i am a man as are you .
When paul and barnabas ......................
there are many examples that show us the unholy harlot is not a truth teller and that is being very kind to say even that .
DID JESUS say .
HEY when men shall deck themselves up , and give themselves flattering titles , you need to heed such , kneel before them
and kiss their ring .
OR
DID HE say beware of men who make large their clothing and love flattering titles and the praise of men .
My friend we can do this all the day long . I do not , will not , and will also do my best to ensure anyone else do not
KNEEL before A HARLOT . MOST HOLY FATHER , MOST HOLY REVERAND . WHATEVER . them titles belong to GOD not man .
 
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amigo de christo

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Italy doesn't do much teaching.
It's pretty much an atheist country.
It question asking time my friend . feel free to ask me any question you like .
there is a reason i say this my friend . internet dialgoue can be misundestood .
So if you have a question or think i say something in error , YOU SAY SOMETHING .
lambs dont let lambs live in error . Now it might just be a wrongful assumptoin on your part .
but no worries i wont get mad at all . You ask .
 
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@Augustin56 - What is the Church built upon???

1 Timothy 3:14-16

These things I write to you, though I hope to come to you shortly; but if I am delayed, I write so that you may know how you ought to conduct yourself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth. And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness:

God was manifested in the flesh,
Justified in the Spirit,
Seen by angels,
Preached among the Gentiles,
Believed on in the world,
Received up in glory.
if peter really were and was the first pope
then how come paul even wrote what so ever they were it makes no difference to me
GOD accepts no mans person . WHO DO YOU THINK and WHY do you THINK he wrote that concering .
And if peter were the ruler over the apostels
THEN WHY did JESUS rebuke them when they desired to know who would be greatest .
And why on earth did we never see in one letter peter ever addressed as the pope or etc .
And this is huge . HOW COME the popes i studied throughout all of history in a book
written in support of THE CATHOLIC CHURCH and its popes
DID them popes sit on a chair , with a ring
with titles like most holy father , most holy reverand
YET even when cornelioius tried to kneel before peter , HE REBUKED HIM and said GET UP i am but a man .
And why all this ado about broad clothes and flattering titles such as most holy father , most holy reverand
and men kneeling before them to kiss a ring .
WHEN JESUS SAID beware of those who deck themselves up in broad clothing and love flattering titles
and the praise and worship of men . DO YOU EVER GET THE FEELING
the RCC LIES . BIG TIME and really these leaders long ago
desired to be seen of men to LORD OVER the flocks , to adorn themselves as some thing great . CAUSE I SURE DO .
I DONT follow harlots and lies my friend . I EXPOSE THEM . and i suggest we all continue to do the same .
 

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ol amigo might seem a bit grave , sincere and etc
but remember i am your FRIEND , AMIGO , FRIEND OF CHRIST .
you all are dearly loved but its high time we stop trusting in man and rather learn to trust in GOD , HIS CHRIST
biblical truth .
 
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if peter really were and was the first pope
then how come paul even wrote what so ever they were it makes no difference to me
GOD accepts no mans person . WHO DO YOU THINK and WHY do you THINK he wrote that concering .
And if peter were the ruler over the apostels
THEN WHY did JESUS rebuke them when they desired to know who would be greatest .
And why on earth did we never see in one letter peter ever addressed as the pope or etc .
And this is huge . HOW COME the popes i studied throughout all of history in a book
written in support of THE CATHOLIC CHURCH and its popes
DID them popes sit on a chair , with a ring
with titles like most holy father , most holy reverand
YET even when cornelioius tried to kneel before peter , HE REBUKED HIM and said GET UP i am but a man .
And why all this ado about broad clothes and flattering titles such as most holy father , most holy reverand
and men kneeling before them to kiss a ring .
WHEN JESUS SAID beware of those who deck themselves up in broad clothing and love flattering titles
and the praise and worship of men . DO YOU EVER GET THE FEELING
the RCC LIES . BIG TIME and really these leaders long ago
desired to be seen of men to LORD OVER the flocks , to adorn themselves as some thing great . CAUSE I SURE DO .
I DONT follow harlots and lies my friend . I EXPOSE THEM . and i suggest we all continue to do the same .
@Augustin56

If a man/woman places their trust for Salvation in Roman Catholicism, can they be saved???
 

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It question asking time my friend . feel free to ask me any question you like .
there is a reason i say this my friend . internet dialgoue can be misundestood .
So if you have a question or think i say something in error , YOU SAY SOMETHING .
lambs dont let lambs live in error . Now it might just be a wrongful assumptoin on your part .
but no worries i wont get mad at all . You ask .
I have nothing to ask Amigo...
but that's very nice of you.
I get the feeling we might agree on most everything.
Do YOU have any question you're interested in?
 
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If a man/woman places their trust for Salvation in Roman Catholicism, can they be saved???

NO.

Jesus is the only mediator between God and man so trying to get saved thru mary or a religious organization will not get one to Heaven.

And it's not just the catholics in error about this... many so called "protestants" believe they can be saved by following luther or calvin.
 
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@Jude Thaddeus says: Whenever Jesus says, "It is written", He is explaining what the Scriptures mean, He does not let the Scriptures speak for themselves.

Do you even understand what you just posted???

You have given the EVIDENCE of the TRUTH of my Posts and you have refuted your own position.

@Jude Thaddeus says: If anything, this verse is about the manna from heaven that did not give eternal life,
but every word that proceeded out of the mouth of the Lord plainly found in John 6, that you deny in the first place. It's not about not sola scriptura.

You have given the EVIDENCE of the TRUTH of my Posts and you have refuted your own position - lol

FYI = Sola Scriptura stands on the TRUTH = "Every word that proceeds from the Mouth of God"
You haven't refuted Deuteronomy 8:3, the verse Jesus used against sola scripturist Satan. Got any more "irrefutable evidence"?
:jest:

No one ever heard of "sola scriptura" until Martin Luther invented it, largely due to his anger with the pope and his pride. Material sufficiency of scripture is fine, but the Bible opposes formal sufficiency, and there is plenty of irrefutable evidence.

 
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You haven't refuted Deuteronomy 8:3, the verse Jesus used against sola scripturist satan. Try again.

satan was twisting scripture to get Jesus to indulge in sinful behavior. Try again.

The catholics do the same as what the devil does, they twist scripture and then that go far beyond what is written and teach stuff that's not even in scripture at all! clueless-doh.gif
 

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if peter really were and was the first pope
then how come paul even wrote what so ever they were it makes no difference to me
GOD accepts no mans person . WHO DO YOU THINK and WHY do you THINK he wrote that concering .
And if peter were the ruler over the apostels
THEN WHY did JESUS rebuke them when they desired to know who would be greatest .
And why on earth did we never see in one letter peter ever addressed as the pope or etc .
And this is huge . HOW COME the popes i studied throughout all of history in a book
written in support of THE CATHOLIC CHURCH and its popes
DID them popes sit on a chair , with a ring
with titles like most holy father , most holy reverand
YET even when cornelioius tried to kneel before peter , HE REBUKED HIM and said GET UP i am but a man .
And why all this ado about broad clothes and flattering titles such as most holy father , most holy reverand
and men kneeling before them to kiss a ring .
WHEN JESUS SAID beware of those who deck themselves up in broad clothing and love flattering titles
and the praise and worship of men . DO YOU EVER GET THE FEELING
the RCC LIES . BIG TIME and really these leaders long ago
desired to be seen of men to LORD OVER the flocks , to adorn themselves as some thing great . CAUSE I SURE DO .
I DONT follow harlots and lies my friend . I EXPOSE THEM . and i suggest we all continue to do the same .
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When peter and john had prayed and the lame man was healed
and the peoples ran unto them . DID THEY
A . say hold up lets put peter in a chair so you all can kiss his ring
OR B . we are men JUST LIKE YOU , why look on us ..........
When peter entered into the house of cornelious and cornelious kneeled before him
What did peter say .
A . here let me sit in a chair so you can kiss my ring
or
B . stand up i am a man as are you .
When paul and barnabas ......................
there are many examples that show us the unholy harlot is not a truth teller and that is being very kind to say even that .
DID JESUS say .
HEY when men shall deck themselves up , and give themselves flattering titles , you need to heed such , kneel before them
and kiss their ring .
OR
DID HE say beware of men who make large their clothing and love flattering titles and the praise of men .
My friend we can do this all the day long . I do not , will not , and will also do my best to ensure anyone else do not
KNEEL before A HARLOT . MOST HOLY FATHER , MOST HOLY REVERAND . WHATEVER . them titles belong to GOD not man .
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lol x100

Are you serious???
I'm still waiting for your reply to "it is written" in Deuteronomy 8:3 that Jesus quoted to Satan, that demolishes your abuse of Mark 4:4. You haven't done that. You are stumped, so you reply with irrelevant emotional zingers because you are too proud to be corrected.
 
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What, exactly, are you trying to prove? Who places so much emphasis of this one verse? Professional liars like Jack Chick? Dave Hunt? Alexander Hislop? The fear based narrative of Jehovah's Witlesses or the Seventh Day Adventists? Where, exactly, are you coming from with this one verse? Paranoid fundamentalists who twist scripture??? Are you too embarrassed to clearly state what you stand for, or who teaches you Revelation nonsense with one isolated verse ???
 
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