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1stCenturyLady

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"I see—another one who doesn't need to study the Scriptures or rightly divide the word of truth (2 Timothy 2:15). It seems that God—not Christ Jesus or the Holy Spirit—just 'downloads' data, and you receive the 'answer' immediately.

Meanwhile, we need to daily study the Scriptures, like the Bereans who 'examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true' (Acts 17:11). But apparently, you don't."

No offense.
Seeing as the Spirit is my Teacher, of course, I read the Scriptures everyday. But what I don't need is a human being teaching me what has been taught to them by man, himself. In fact, there was a verse last night that I don't understand, but I immediately prayed and I expect Him to tell me. This is the first time He hasn't answered immediately. But He is the only one who knows what that verse actually means and I want to know the Truth on it, not a guess from a commentary.

What does "No offense" mean when someone is offensive?
 
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I think for me the way you describe it is as if the gift is always 'turned on' whereas for me when I receive some ability from the Lord I give it back and ask that it be subject to His Wisdom. I am not a fan of the idea that His Gifts operate under our control.

Nor do I claim every question that I offer 'upstairs' is answered, but the ones I need to know the answer to, are usually made clear in about three days. What doesn't come back down I assume I don't need to know.

I deeply believe that our quest for truth must be subject to His will, otherwise we are committing the sin of grasping for the tree of knowledge driven by pride.

So many folks try to learn everything about everything, chase every seminar and the fruitfulness of the Body of Christ remains rather in question.

This is a bit of a ramble, but the body of Christ has not been left 'giftless' on the one hand but neither is discernment operating all that well either.

I wanted to say also that I have on occasion seen into the 'spiritual realm' for good reason, but this is not a continuous experience for me.
God doesn't speak to me every second of every day. But when He does speak to me I receive in the flesh what He has said. Call it pride if you want to. I'm surprised at you. You do know that when Paul was accused that way he said he boasts in the Lord. I report these things to Cessationists to make them rethink their position. And to atheists that God is not dead!
 

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God doesn't speak to me every second of every day. But when He does speak to me I receive in the flesh what He has said. Call it pride if you want to. I'm surprised at you. You do know that when Paul was accused that way he said he boasts in the Lord. I report these things to Cessationists to make them rethink their position. And to atheists that God is not dead!

I was referring to the seeing of His Spirit on folks - is this constant?

The very first temptation was to individuate the desire to know.
This was also similar to the way Satan tempted Jesus in the wilderness. The temptation to individually act without seeing what the Father wants.
It is wise then, to submit ones desire to know, to Him.
That means one will not be seeking to understand everything but only what He appoints for His purpose.

I was not accusing you of pride but I see weakness in the Church when folks are encouraged to chase every seminar to gain knowledge and the equation of 'effort in' to 'fruit out' doesn't stack up. This then is pride driven.
Folks are better to seek the specific knowledge needed for their calling.
So if an answer doesn't come back down from above we should be content that we don't need to know - at least as for now.

Yes - it is important to speak of such things as there are folks out there afraid to speak about what God is doing in their lives.

However to get confirmation regarding the validity of a gift, this is better to be sought through ones immediate fellowship rather than on the net.
 
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I think for me the way you describe it is as if the gift is always 'turned on' whereas for me when I receive some ability from the Lord I give it back and ask that it be subject to His Wisdom. I am not a fan of the idea that His Gifts operate under our control.
I would agree but this verse did come to mind as soon as I paused and reflected;

ROM 12:6 Having gifts that differ according to the grace given to us, let us use them: if prophecy, in proportion to our faith;
 

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I would agree but this verse did come to mind as soon as I paused and reflected;

ROM 12:6 Having gifts that differ according to the grace given to us, let us use them: if prophecy, in proportion to our faith;
Exactly! Things we ourselves do.

Much love!
 

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I was referring to the seeing of His Spirit on folks - is this constant?
No. My pastor can ask for prayer requests and announcements, and nothing. It is only when he starts preaching that it can then be seen. Therefore, it seems to have to do with the truth of the sermon.

The very first temptation was to individuate the desire to know.
This was also similar to the way Satan tempted Jesus in the wilderness. The temptation to individually act without seeing what the Father wants.
It is wise then, to submit ones desire to know, to Him.
That means one will not be seeking to understand everything but only what He appoints for His purpose.

I was not accusing you of pride but I see weakness in the Church when folks are encouraged to chase every seminar to gain knowledge and the equation of 'effort in' to 'fruit out' doesn't stack up. This then is pride driven.
Folks are better to seek the specific knowledge needed for their calling.
So if an answer doesn't come back down from above we should be content that we don't need to know - at least as for now.

Yes - it is important to speak of such things as there are folks out there afraid to speak about what God is doing in their lives.

However to get confirmation regarding the validity of a gift, this is better to be sought through ones immediate fellowship rather than on the net.
I'm not the only one with the ability to see. I'm the 4th one at my church, so want to know if there are others on the forums whose eyes have been opened by the Spirit of God.

To try and explore this gift, I've been to other churches and usually see nothing at all. It is as though they have not given a sermon, but maybe plagiarized some false doctrine from somewhere. The Spirit wasn't present. But the wildest thing I've seen was that black billowing cloud of smoke or something with a tornado in front of it. The space it filled was from his head to his shoulder, then straight up to the top of his head like a square. It did not act as the white "aura" that moved with the movement of the pastor. It was solid and clear as day. It was also not a vision. I could look away and look back and it was still there.
 

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I would agree but this verse did come to mind as soon as I paused and reflected;

ROM 12:6 Having gifts that differ according to the grace given to us, let us use them: if prophecy, in proportion to our faith;

Yes - and faith comes from Hearing the Word of Christ. So hear first then act.

Even Jesus could only do what He saw the Father doing in the moment.
 
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'm not the only one with the ability to see. I'm the 4th one at my church, so want to know if there are others on the forums whose eyes have been opened by the Spirit of God.

Eyes have been opened by the Spirit of God for sure, but not commonly in the way you describe.
 

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Eyes have been opened by the Spirit of God for sure, but not commonly in the way you describe.
What was also a shock was I looked at a prophecy that was spoken over me at Jack Hayford's Church On The Way in California, and it was recorded, so I copied it out word for word and couldn't figure out how any of it could come to pass. But a week after I got home it started being fulfilled. That was in 2001. I have a copy of it in my Bible and I read it one day and I had forgotten that this line was even in it. I underlined it.

I just mailed you the prophecy to read in private.
 

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What was also a shock was I looked at a prophecy that was spoken over me at Jack Hayford's Church On The Way in California, and it was recorded, so I copied it out word for word and couldn't figure out how any of it could come to pass. But a week after I got home it started being fulfilled. That was in 2001. I have a copy of it in my Bible and I read it one day and I had forgotten that this line was even in it. I underlined it.

I just mailed you the prophecy to read in private.
Blessings 1stCenturyLady. I have an innocent question. The preacher that had the dark billowing clouds with the twister, was he perhaps an end time preacher?
 

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I think for me the way you describe it is as if the gift is always 'turned on' whereas for me when I receive some ability from the Lord I give it back and ask that it be subject to His Wisdom. I am not a fan of the idea that His Gifts operate under our control.
Someone quoted this recently.
For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted. And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.1Co 14:31

Interesting....
 

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Someone quoted this recently.
For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted. And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.1Co 14:31

Interesting....

Yep... the collective of prophets.
 

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Blessings 1stCenturyLady. I have an innocent question. The preacher that had the dark billowing clouds with the twister, was he perhaps an end time preacher?
Nothing other than a Foursquare International (Pentecostal type) Church, founded by Aimee Semple McPherson. He was even friends with my spiritual father, Jack Hayford.
 
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Nothing other than a Foursquare International (Pentecostal type) Church, founded by Aimee Semple McPherson. He was even friends with my spiritual father, Jack Hayford.
Thank you for answering. The reason I asked is I know that this country will be seeing a lot of dark billowing clouds with tornados. I find it strange that you would see this around a preacher. Thank you for your time.
 

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Thank you for answering. The reason I asked is I know that this country will be seeing a lot of dark billowing clouds with tornados. I find it strange that you would see this around a preacher. Thank you for your time.
This is a new gift to me. It was actually a fulfillment of the last part of a prophecy over me in 2001.
 
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So the same ability to 'see' in the same way. How long have the others been experiencing this? Are the church leaders aware of this ?
I never asked them. I just overheard them talking about the seers there and asked about it. But the pastor knows seeing as it is around him. So while walking from the Sunday School Room to the sanctuary I prayed that if this gift is from Him and not the counterfeit may I also have it. It is real and from God. Satan does not create; he only counterfeits legitimate gifts of God. And then after I had it I happened to read that prophecy from 2001, so I would pray for it if I were you seeing as you are already gifted.

One thing to remember. There have been many churches that I haven't seen anything. I saw it immediately around Jim because this glory was present around him. I would love to know more, like why is it not around other sermons. So far, I have narrowed it down to it is only around someone during the sermon they are giving, but why not every pastor. And what did the black billowing cloud and tornado really mean? It wasn't around him all the time, just during the sermon.
 
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The last prophet was John Baptist and Jesus.

Apostles means = sent forth, discipline. There teachers.

Ephesians chapter 3.
Romans chapter 12


The body of christ has different functions and offices.

Some Christian people are pastors.
Or evangelists
Teachers
Deacons
No gender involved. Male or female

1 Corinthians chapter 2

You need holy spirit.

Many people have spirit of stupor. They can't understand deep truth of God's word.

Acts chapter 2 will document women as teachers.

In bible, Acts. Philip had 4 daughters who were teachers. They weren't prophets. Philip was a evangelists.