Leaders That Don't Support Good Works or Overcoming Sin

[amigo de christo]

You healed your dog.
I see.

You can examine this for yourself .
What i write next .
those who are big on this positive affirmation
are huge on accusing those who bring scrips of not loving GOD but a book .
And if you examine their doctrine , you will see it do CONTRADICT the TRUTH in scrip .
that it was not rightly divided but rather twisted .
And you will see that most folks who often
try and down play the dire importance of knowing the reading the scrips
Will honor a GOD who , now check this out real close , WHO APPROVES of their own lustful hearts desires .
Making man the big kahuna .
The one thing i notice about folks
who either say YOU got to sit under our teachers to learn the bible
or who say this relationship love stuff a lot might not teach identical doctrines
but , and this is key , BUT YOU CAN REST assured the version of GOD , his love or whatever they claim
is of HIM , IS GONNA SERVE THE FLESH BABY . NOT GOD first , but man first .
we got many false doctrines , and many who say touch not Gods annointed
just heed the leader and the so called spirit or so they think the spirit .
and yet , upon examination
of what they prophesy or teach you can bet the image of GOD they produce and beleive in
GONNA CONTRADICT THE ONE IN THAT BIBLE . i see this so much more than i wish i did . ITS very COMMON my friend .

 

[amigo de christo]

You healed your dog.
I see.

i have seen it get so bad my friend . so bad
that even a man who came into my work years ago
and had a cast on his arm , when i told him i would pray for his healing ,
YA wanna hear what he told me . NO NEED TO , I HAVE ALREADY CLAIMED MY HEALING
I am already HEALED .
as he left i kept thinking , THEN WHY YOU STILL WEARING THE CAST
if you are already HEALED . i am telling us these things can go array fast my friend .
SO rather than letting me pray for him
HE claimed it already and claimed HE was in fact ALREADY HEALED .
but i guess he has not faith in his so called healing , cause if he DID
why still wear the cast . Man folks can beleive some of the oddest teachings indeed my friend .

 

[amigo de christo]

There once was a man who was postively convinced of a teaching called postive affirmation .
SO convince was the man
that as he walked along the path and as his foot
slipped he fell down a steep cliff .
Upon landing the man was a mess , broken arm , broken leg
busted ribs and was bleeding .
HE said I AM HEALED i AFFIRM it to be so .
Along came a man who walked along the path at the bottom
and said , dear sir i would like to pray for you to be healed
To which the man said , I AM HEALED , I NAME IT , I CLAIM IT , I POSSITVELY affirm it .
So the man walks away .
A few hours later another dear lady comes along
and sees the poor man just lying there . she brings him a cup of water from her pack
and says dear sir i am sent to pray for you to be healed .
Very weakly the man says , NO NEED TOO , I AM ALREADY HEALED , i named it and i claimed it
i positively affirm i am healed .
So the man lies there another hour .
Then along comes another man
and says oh dear my friend
here let me help you . Let me pray for your healing .
To which the man , hardly able to speak a word says , No need to i already named it and claimed it
and i postively affirm i am healed .
The next morning they find the man dead . SO what happened .
exactly . he got decieved by the nar group who preached as they did FOR MONEY
and for praise of men .
NOW GOD can still heal . and we ought to pray for healing
and others can pray for us too .
But if one is not been healed , WHY KEEP acting as though you are , i mean that is lying is it not .
IF ya aint healed but you claim you are , exactly .
BUT , do beleive me when i say MIRACLES and HEALINGS are still VERY REAL , just dont heed the wrong prophets my friends .

 

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And try as I might, I just can't seem to make my life fit any pattern of growth other than that which is fairly simply spelled out in the Bible.

That we mature over the course of our lives,

Philippians 1:6 KJV
Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:

that this is described as conducting our lives according to the changes God has made in us,

Philippians 2:12-13 KJV
12) Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
13) For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

and as putting off the wrong things from our old lives, and putting on the right things from our new life.

Ephesians 4:21-24 KJV
21) If so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus:
22) That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;
23) And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;
24) And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.

That we are a new spirit child of God, and we have to put to death the fleshy parts of us.

Colossians 3:5 KJV
Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:

Which to my cPTSD understanding, speaks of the corrupted flesh - brain, psyche, like that - damaged by Adam's sin, then further by my sins, and others sins that affected me.

That I am to deny them these inner perversions (wrong bents) by directing my thoughts otherwise, Godward, not allowing them access to my actions, or my emotions.

2 Corinthians 10:4-5 KJV
4) (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;)
5) Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;

1 Peter 1:13-15 KJV
13) Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;
14) As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance:
15) But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation;

That we do this by trusting in our complete reconciliation to God,

Romans 5:1-2 KJV
1) Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
2) By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.

thereby eliminating the working of law in us to provoke sin in our flesh.

Romans 7:5-6 KJV
5) For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6) But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

We do this by trusting in our complete renewal in rebirth, thereby freeing us from all constraint and compulsion to sin.

Romans 6:6-12 KJV
6) Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
7) For he that is dead is freed from sin.
8) Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
9) Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
10) For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
11) Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
12) Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.

By making a conscious choice to not allow anything wrong to remain or have any effect in us.

2 Timothy 2:21 KJV
21) If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.

That this faith, believing that God has promised, and so He will do it, is what allows us to stand in His grace, unhindered by fleshy or worldly or satanic things.

2 Peter 1:3-4 KJV
3) According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:
4) Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

Trusting in His ability we choose, knowing God is Who empowers, us, others, whatever is needed.

Philippians 4:13 KJV
13) I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.

1 Corinthians 10:13 KJV
13) There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

And that we will not know for sure whether we are sinless or not, therefore don't worry about it. Let Him be the judge, and I just focus on living as best I can.

1 Corinthians 4:3-5 KJV
3) But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged of you, or of man's judgment: yea, I judge not mine own self.
4) For I know nothing by myself; yet am I not hereby justified: but he that judgeth me is the Lord.
5) Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God.

Trust in Jesus to show you what He wants to show you.

Romans 8:14-15 KJV
14) For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
15) For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

In all cases, that we are to walk in the light He has given to us, trusting, trusting, that He is leading us well.

Preaching to myself here . . .

Philippians 3:14-16 KJV
14) I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.
15) Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you.
16) Nevertheless, whereto we have already attained, let us walk by the same rule, let us mind the same thing.

There are always more I can add, @Johann , thank you for asking!

Much love!

 

[amigo de christo]

Last time I was at the vet for my dog I ran into a old coworker there. As we talked I look down and saw her dog had hip problems. I found out later she was there for a second shot as the first did not work. Before I left, I found ten dollars on the floor and asked her if this was hers and it was. I then ask her if she would like some help for her dog and she said yes. I then kneeled down and placed both hands on each hip and prayed. As I got up I could feel the the joy of The Lord and I said to her, "see, The Lord is good all the time." I then left. This was not just for her dog but for her so that she might believe. Like I said, I had no plan to do this. Jesus said for those that believe, "you shall lay your hands on the sick and they shall recover."

well i would like for you to pray for healing on my back my friend .
Pray one for another that ye may be healed .

 

[GTW27]

There once was a man who was postively convinced of a teaching called postive affirmation .
SO convince was the man
that as he walked along the path and as his foot
slipped he fell down a steep cliff .
Upon landing the man was a mess , broken arm , broken leg
busted ribs and was bleeding .
HE said I AM HEALED i AFFIRM it to be so .
Along came a man who walked along the path at the bottom
and said , dear sir i would like to pray for you to be healed
To which the man said , I AM HEALED , I NAME IT , I CLAIM IT , I POSSITVELY affirm it .
So the man walks away .
A few hours later another dear lady comes along
and sees the poor man just lying there . she brings him a cup of water from her pack
and says dear sir i am sent to pray for you to be healed .
Very weakly the man says , NO NEED TOO , I AM ALREADY HEALED , i named it and i claimed it
i positively affirm i am healed .
So the man lies there another hour .
Then along comes another man
and says oh dear my friend
here let me help you . Let me pray for your healing .
To which the man , hardly able to speak a word says , No need to i already named it and claimed it
and i postively affirm i am healed .
The next morning they find the man dead . SO what happened .
exactly . he got decieved by the nar group who preached as they did FOR MONEY
and for praise of men .
NOW GOD can still heal . and we ought to pray for healing
and others can pray for us too .
But if one is not been healed , WHY KEEP acting as though you are , i mean that is lying is it not .
IF ya aint healed but you claim you are , exactly .
BUT , do beleive me when i say MIRACLES and HEALINGS are still VERY REAL , just dont heed the wrong prophets my friends .

How are you Amigo? Welcome back. Is there something you would like to discuss?

 

[GTW27]

well i would like for you to pray for healing on my back my friend .
Pray one for another that ye may be healed .

Lower back? l4? Do you know you and I share an old friend from cf?

 

[amigo de christo]

Philippians 1:6 KJV
Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:


Philippians 2:12-13 KJV
12) Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
13) For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.


Ephesians 4:21-24 KJV
21) If so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus:
22) That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;
23) And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;
24) And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.


Colossians 3:5 KJV
Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:




2 Corinthians 10:4-5 KJV
4) (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;)
5) Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;

1 Peter 1:13-15 KJV
13) Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;
14) As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance:
15) But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation;


Romans 5:1-2 KJV
1) Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
2) By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.


Romans 7:5-6 KJV
5) For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6) But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.


Romans 6:6-12 KJV
6) Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
7) For he that is dead is freed from sin.
8) Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
9) Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
10) For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
11) Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
12) Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.


2 Timothy 2:21 KJV
21) If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.


2 Peter 1:3-4 KJV
3) According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:
4) Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.


Philippians 4:13 KJV
13) I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.

1 Corinthians 10:13 KJV
13) There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.


1 Corinthians 4:3-5 KJV
3) But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged of you, or of man's judgment: yea, I judge not mine own self.
4) For I know nothing by myself; yet am I not hereby justified: but he that judgeth me is the Lord.
5) Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God.


Romans 8:14-15 KJV
14) For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
15) For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.


Philippians 3:14-16 KJV
14) I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.
15) Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you.
16) Nevertheless, whereto we have already attained, let us walk by the same rule, let us mind the same thing.

There are always more I can add, @Johann , thank you for asking!

Much love!

And yet what i say to one i say to all
i seem to see me many so called children o God sitting in many churches
who seem to have made jesus into the minstir of sin .
WHAT jesus do you THINK they came to , love and follow . exactly .
we better BIBLE the heck up my friend cause i am telling us many now
follow another jesus , another gospel , and good golly miss molly THAT ONE CANNOT SAVE THEM .
WHY do i see rainbows diversity inclusivity IN CHURCHES .
WHY do i see folks approving of crap that says the other religoins serve the same GOD we do .
WHY do i see so many now believing god is okay with these other religoins
and with certain sins too .
WHERE is their conviction of sins
WHY do they justify every day their sins
WHY do they think the bible is hate speech or outdated at best .
And why o why do you suppose that is ...........
I will tell us why , cause satan can use the name of JESUS and yet bring one to another jesus
satan can say GOD is love and yet the version of his god and its love , WELL NOW its NOT GOD at all .
AND satan can appear as an angel of light
AND his minstirs can even lead and teach IN CHURCHES TOO . and that is a FACT mark .
MANY have not come to GOD , many have not been drawn to JESUS THE CHRIST BY GOD
rather they were drawn by their own fleshly hearts desire
to a god or a christ that may have promised them salvation , but by golly it approved of thier sins too .
AND THAT AINT GOD OR CHRIST . at all .

 

[amigo de christo]

How are you Amigo? Welcome back. Is there something you would like to discuss?

yeah . never follow a nar prophet .
However healing is real . cessationism IS false too .
So , that is why i asked for you to also pray for my back my friend .
But , whatever ya do dont heed a nar prophet
that i say not to condmen but because its very needful it get said .

 

[amigo de christo]

Lower back? l4? Do you know you and I share an old friend from cf?

its not bad my friend i just have arthritis in the neck , the middle and the lower back .
Most days no problem .
Who is our friend from CF .

 

[GTW27]

yeah . never follow a nar prophet .
However healing is real . cessationism IS false too .
So , that is why i asked for you to also pray for my back my friend .
But , whatever ya do dont heed a nar prophet
that i say not to condmen but because its very needful it get said .

I only follow The Lord Amigo. Why would one put a trust in man.

 

[GTW27]

its not bad my friend i just have arthritis in the neck , the middle and the lower back .
Most days no problem .
Who is our friend from CF .

I will pray for you Amigo. From 2017 S P. She helped me in some warfare. I put the initials so not to bring the name here. She was a good one.

 

[amigo de christo]

I will pray for you Amigo. From 2017 S P. She helped me in some warfare. I put the initials so not to bring the name here. She was a good one.

SP . she once hatched quail eggs . IF its who i think you are talking about .
SHE will remember me saying to her SLAY girl slay . because in her foot notes it said arise and slay etc .
If its her she left CF way back in twenty seventeen . she had went to get a job
and ended up leaving . I never seen her again . I went back to hunt for her
but no one else had seen her either . That ol CF used to light me up my friend with ban here and a ban there .
I have , as of late went back onto it also .

 

[amigo de christo]

I will pray for you Amigo. From 2017 S P. She helped me in some warfare. I put the initials so not to bring the name here. She was a good one.

i remember telling her , if its her ,
when her first chick hatched we would name it SLAYER .
and being funny i said Slayer will lead the other chicks to a land flowing with june bugs and beetles . LOL .
IS it her .

 

[amigo de christo]

I only follow The Lord Amigo. Why would one put a trust in man.

 

[GTW27]

SP . she once hatched quail eggs . IF its who i think you are talking about .
SHE will remember me saying to her SLAY girl slay . because in her foot notes it said arise and slay etc .
If its her she left CF way back in twenty seventeen . she had went to get a job
and ended up leaving . I never seen her again . I went back to hunt for her
but no one else had seen her either . That ol CF used to light me up my friend with ban here and a ban there .
I have , as of late went back onto it also .

That's her. I used to like her. Not many catch my attention but she did.

 

[Gottservant]

Two things:

Firstly, you will always feel bad about your sin. As you said "It comforted me. I knew I would never be able to shake the sin and bouts of anger in my life."

Secondly, your desire to sin will clash, with your desire to die on your cross. As you said " But right now---my husband and I stay in Scripture daily, discussing it, praying it, practicing to obey Jesus. Yes, obey Jesus, not just believe."

 

[amigo de christo]

I will pray for you Amigo. From 2017 S P. She helped me in some warfare. I put the initials so not to bring the name here. She was a good one.

Its been seven years my friend .
it was in june of twenty seventeen i had first joined CF
i met SP soon thereafter . DO you remember little davida too . she was the youngster of the group
only seventeen back then . I still see michie is there . man the RCC done run me off more than once
but i do continue to pray for them .
Seven years has flown by my friend . i am now the big fifty two .
PS , the question is , do ya really think this ol world has another seven left in it .
By the signs of the times i gotta say I DONT think so at all .
Its gotten much worse since even when i first showed up at CF . in just them last seven years
the delusion has grown massive now and it grows faster by the day and by the hour too my friend .

 

[amigo de christo]

That's her. I used to like her. Not many catch my attention but she did.

Did she ever come back .

 

[GTW27]

Its been seven years my friend .
it was in june of twenty seventeen i had first joined CF
i met SP soon thereafter . DO you remember little davida too . she was the youngster of the group
only seventeen back then . I still see michie is there . man the RCC done run me off more than once
but i do continue to pray for them .
Seven years has flown by my friend . i am now the big fifty two .
PS , the question is , do ya really think this ol world has another seven left in it .
By the signs of the times i gotta say I DONT think so at all .
Its gotten much worse since even when i first showed up at CF . in just them last seven years
the delusion has grown massive now and it grows faster by the day and by the hour too my friend .

I do not remember the others except Lilac. I did follow the quale thing. I knew she was under a lot of attacks before she left. Even when she was helping me she was under attack. It was sad to see her leave. Even today I still use what she taught me.