Are there Two or More Resurrections?

[tailgator]

Can you show me how your understanding of the order of bodily resurrections unto bodily immortality lines up with what Paul taught about that here:

1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. 24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

Did Paul know everything or was he looking through a darkly glass not seeing the whole picture?

Far as I understand,Jesus gave John revelations to write after Paul was dead.Im.not sure Paul knew of the two separate resurrections in revelation 20.
The first before the Sabbath and the second ,after.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Did Paul know everything or was he looking through a darkly glass not seeing the whole picture?

He knew everything about the resurrection of the dead. It says a lot when you need to resort to trying to say that Paul didn't fully know what he was talking about in relation to the resurrection of the dead. He most certainly did and there's no reason to think otherwise.

All believers look through a dark glass in the sense of we don't know yet what it will be like in eternity. That's all that means.

1 John 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

It has nothing to do with Paul not having full knowledge about the resurrection of the dead. This is clearly a desperate attempt by you to get around what Paul taught.

Far as I understand,Jesus gave John revelations to write after Paul was dead.Im.not sure Paul knew of the two separate resurrections in revelation 20.
The first before the Sabbath and the second ,after.

Ridiculous. The same Holy Spirit who inspired Paul also inspired John. Did the Holy Spirit lack any knowledge when inspiring Paul? No.

 

[tailgator]

He knew everything about the resurrection of the dead. It says a lot when you need to resort to trying to say that Paul didn't fully know what he was talking about in relation to the resurrection of the dead. He most certainly did and there's no reason to think otherwise.

All believers look through a dark glass in the sense of we don't know yet what it will be like in eternity. That's all that means.

1 John 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

It has nothing to do with Paul not having full knowledge about the resurrection of the dead. This is clearly a desperate attempt by you to get around what Paul taught.


Ridiculous. The same Holy Spirit who inspired Paul also inspired John. Did the Holy Spirit lack any knowledge when inspiring Paul? No.

Ridiculous.

Paul was never instructed to prophecy.He was told to preach the gospel just as the other 11 apostles.

John is the only apostle Instructed to write a book of prophecy which he called the revelation of Jesus Christ.

Revelation 1
1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

2 Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.



Now you show me the book.of prophecy Paul was instructed to write.The one you say he knows everything in.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Ridiculous.

Paul was never instructed to prophecy.He was told to preach the gospel just as the other 11 apostles.

LOL. It doesn't get any more ridiculous than this. So, you're saying 1 Corinthians 15:20-23 isn't a prophecy. Wow. Well, thank you for showing the world that no one should believe anything you say and that you are completely biased. Good to know.

 

[tailgator]

LOL. It doesn't get any more ridiculous than this. So, you're saying 1 Corinthians 15:20-23 isn't a prophecy. Wow. Well, thank you for showing the world that no one should believe anything you say and that you are completely biased. Good to know.

I'm saying Paul was sent to preach the gospel.
He was not sent to write prophecies.John was.Paul also was not sent to Baptise but he did anyways.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

I'm saying Paul was sent to preach the gospel.
He was not sent to write prophecies.

He was obviously called to do both even if his primary mission was to preach the gospel. As everyone except you knows.

John was.Paul also was not sent to Baptise but he did anyways.

Did he baptize exactly the way it was supposed to be done? He did, right? And so it is with prophecy. He wasn't lacking in knowledge about Christ's second coming and the resurrection of the dead at all. As everyone except you knows.

 

[tailgator]

LOL. It doesn't get any more ridiculous than this. So, you're saying 1 Corinthians 15:20-23 isn't a prophecy. Wow. Well, thank you for showing the world that no one should believe anything you say and that you are completely biased. Good to know.

Are you going to quote the book of prophecy Paul was told to write,?Quote the instructions Paul was given to write his book as I have below.


Revelation 1
10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,

11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.

 

[tailgator]

He was obviously called to do both even if his primary mission was to preach the gospel. As everyone except you knows.


Did he baptize exactly the way it was supposed to be done? He did, right? And so it is with prophecy. He wasn't lacking in knowledge about Christ's second coming and the resurrection of the dead at all. As everyone except you knows.

Paul regretted baptising people when he was sent to.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Are you going to quote the book of prophecy Paul was told to write,?Quote the instructions Paul was given to write his book as I have below.


Revelation 1
10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,

11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.

LOL! You are coming up with the most ridiculous arguments I've ever seen, and that's saying something. Paul was inspired by the Holy Spirit, who knows all things, to write about Bible prophecy. And the Holy Spirit doesn't miss any details or make any mistakes. Keep digging the hole even deeper for yourself if you insist, but you're making yourself look really bad and very biased here. Trust me on that.

 

[tailgator]

LOL! You are coming up with the most ridiculous arguments I've ever seen, and that's saying something. Paul was inspired by the Holy Spirit, who knows all things, to write about Bible prophecy. And the Holy Spirit doesn't miss any details or make any mistakes. Keep digging the hole even deeper for yourself if you insist, but you're making yourself look really bad and very biased here. Trust me on that.

Are you going to quote the book of prophecy Paul was told to write,?Quote the instructions Paul was given to write his book as I have below.


Revelation 1
10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,

11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea



Im waiting

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Paul regretted baptising people when he was sent to.

What does that mean?

1 Corinthians 1:14 I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius; 15 Lest any should say that I had baptized in mine own name. 16 And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other.

He didn't regret baptizing the people who he did baptize, which were Crispus, Gaius and the household of Stephanas. He was glad he didn't baptize anyone else because the others didn't understand what baptism was about and would have said they were baptized in the name of Paul or Apollos or Cephas instead of Christ.

1 Corinthians 1:11 For it hath been declared unto me of you, my brethren, by them which are of the house of Ce, that there are contentions among you. 12 Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ. 13 Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Are you going to quote the book of prophecy Paul was told to write,?Quote the instructions Paul was given to write his book as I have below.


Revelation 1
10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,

11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea



Im waiting

This is irrelevant and you know it. Why did Paul need to be instructed to write a book of prophecy in order to be given a prophecy? This is utter nonsense. Your arguments are weak, invalid and desperate.

 

[tailgator]

This is irrelevant and you know it. Why did Paul need to be instructed to write a book of prophecy in order to be given a prophecy? This is utter nonsense. Your arguments are weak, invalid and desperate.

Are you going to quote the book of prophecy Paul was told to write,?Quote the instructions Paul was given to write his book as I have below.


Revelation 1
10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,

11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea



Still waiting

 

[tailgator]

I'm betting there were many things John wrote in the book of revelation that he didn't know about before he was given the revelation to write..

Spiritual Israelites believes everyone instantly knows everything the very second they recieve the holy Ghost..

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

I'm betting there were many things John wrote in the book of revelation that he didn't know about before he was given the revelation to write..

Spiritual Israelites believes everyone instantly knows everything the very second they recieve the holy Ghost..

Paul certainly knew a lot more than you think he did. You are embarrassing yourself with this nonsense. There is no basis whatsoever for thinking that Paul, who was inspired by the Holy Spirit who knows all things, was lacking at all in his understanding of the resurrection of the dead.

 

[tailgator]

Paul certainly knew a lot more than you think he did. You are embarrassing yourself with this nonsense. There is no basis whatsoever for thinking that Paul, who was inspired by the Holy Spirit who knows all things, was lacking at all in his understanding of the resurrection of the dead.

Ok.
Where did Paul White about the resurection which takes place after the 1000 years?

I know he wrote about the first which the prophets of Israel wrote about but where did he write about the second resurection 1000 years after the second advent of Christ?


John didn't have a problem writing about it.In fact,John was told to write about it.


Revelation 20
11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

 

[tailgator]

Paul certainly knew a lot more than you think he did. You are embarrassing yourself with this nonsense. There is no basis whatsoever for thinking that Paul, who was inspired by the Holy Spirit who knows all things, was lacking at all in his understanding of the resurrection of the dead.

PS
We are talking about the two separate resurrections of the dead mentioned in the book of revelation.

Paul did not write about two separate resurrections .One before the 1000 years and the one after.

John did because he was given that revelation .

 

[tailgator]

Paul certainly knew a lot more than you think he did. You are embarrassing yourself with this nonsense. There is no basis whatsoever for thinking that Paul, who was inspired by the Holy Spirit who knows all things, was lacking at all in his understanding of the resurrection of the dead.

PS
While you at it,can you quote Paul showing the mark of the beast being given to people by the false prophet.

Thanks in advance.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Ok.
Where did Paul White about the resurection which takes place after the 1000 years?

I know he wrote about the first which the prophets of Israel wrote about but where did he write about the second resurection 1000 years after the second advent of Christ?

He only wrote about the resurrection of believers which is the context of 1 Corinthians 15:22-23. But, as an Amil, I believe the resurrection of believers and unbelievers will happen on the same day, as Jesus taught here:

John 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

John didn't have a problem writing about it.In fact,John was told to write about it.

Revelation 20
11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Are you trying to make a ridiculous argument that if Paul didn't write about the resurrection of unbelievers then he somehow didn't know about their resurrection? Or that him not writing about their resurrection means he didn't know all there is to know about the resurrection of believers, including that they would be resurrected on the same day as unbelievers like Jesus taught?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

PS
While you at it,can you quote Paul showing the mark of the beast being given to people by the false prophet.

Thanks in advance.

This is an absolutely ludicrous argument. The dumbest argument I've ever seen in my life. Nothing you're saying indicates that Paul didn't know all there is to know about the resurrection of the dead. This is pathetic. An absolute desperate attempt to discredit Paul in order to keep your doctrine afloat. Unbelievable! For you to go to this length proves that you don't care about truth, you care about doing literally anything to make things fit your doctrine.