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Dear Ronald David Bruno,
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I don't know where you get your theology - it's off. Rev. 19 is during the Great Tribulation. The church has been raptured by this time period in this chapter.

I get my understanding from scripture. The "great tribulation" occurs to a believer when they are under Satan's deceptions and have fallen prey to the spirit of anti-Christ. The great tribulation is not some future time period that occurs out in the world. Christ's words are spirit and the spiritual happens within a person. Also, the "ends of the ages" ( what Christ was teaching in Mat 24), is referring to when a believer is converted. That's why Paul said this:

1Cor 10:11 Now all these things happened to them as types, and have been written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the ages are come.

100% of "end time" prophecy is teaching about the "signs of the times" that lead up and include when Christ returns to an Elect believer with the Latter Rain of the Spirit to convert them. The end-time events DO NOT happen out in the world at the literal end of the age. Christ comes quickly to all of His Elect and not at the literal end of the age. When He comes to His Elect, He brings them their free gift of salvation:

Heb 9:28 So Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him.

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The Church consists of already born again believers, in Christ and there is no condemnation.

Yes, that is true of converted believers who have received both the Early and Latter Rains of the Spirit. However, all the 2,000 plus denominations/sects of Christianity in the world are made up of believers who are not converted. They have only received the Early Rain of the Spirit. Because the Early Rain does not heal the spiritual blindness of a new believer, they have become deceived by Satan and have become apostate. They are experiencing their time of "great tribulation". If the apostate believer is not one of the chosen, they will die in their sins and be condemned to the Lake of Fire upon their resurrection. They are the "many" who are called but not chosen. Only a chosen "few" will receive the Latter Rain and be converted prior to their death.

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Transformation is not triggered by chastisement. God chastises believes during our lives when we get out of line but this does not having anything to do with the gift of salvation. And we have nothing to donwith the Lake of Fire!

The transformation of the carnal mind into the mind of Christ requires "truth" and the chastisement of Christ. Christ only gives "truth" and chastisement to Elect believers who have been converted. When a person is converted, their heart is changed. From having a new heart, their carnal mind is transformed into the mind of Christ. It is a slow spiritual process.

The Lake of Fire is for judging and destroying the children of the Devil. But since the Elect are born as a child of God PRIOR to being judged in the Lake of Fire, they do not experience God's wrath in the Lake of Fire. However, for the condemned of the final age, they will experience wrath because they are still a child of the Devil during their time of judgment. But prior to the child of the devil's destruction though, Christ will have mercy upon the lost person and give them the free gift of salvation. The new child of God will then be born and come out of the Lake of Fire, leaving only the child of the devil there to be destroyed.

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We do not suffer to be born again, we believe that Jesus died fir our sins was buried and rise from the dead on the third day. Jesus is the Author of our faith, it is a gift.

These scriptures say differently:

Acts 14:22 Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.

Rev 7: 14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they
(the Elect) which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them. 16 They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat. 17 For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.

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What Church did you go to???

I have not associated with any church since I was converted in 2005 (I was 44 years old at that time). At the time of my conversion, I found that all the church denominations/sects of Christianity in the world are apostate just as Paul said they would be (Acts 20:29-31). They all mix "works" with faith. After my conversion, my fellowship has been with my wife, the few converted believers I have met online, and with Christ & His Father.

Before I was converted, I grew up in the Church of Christ denomination. As an young adult, I attended a Baptist church and then onto a couple of non-denominational churches. Then, in the year and a half prior to my conversion, I attended a Pentecostal church.

All the churches that I attended were apostate churches - but this makes sense because I was an apostate believer.

I will post my conversion testimony in a second post which will explain what happened to my wife and I at that time.

Joe
We discussed this "latter rain" theology back in April.
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Conversion Testimony of Joe & Julie Edwards

In the year 2000, I relocated to Fayetteville, Arkansas with my wife and three sons. We visited many churches during those first years there but we never could find any that seemed to have a real love for the Lord. After our own personal study of the scripture, we decided that we wanted to be baptized in the name of Jesus instead of the Father, Son & Holy Spirit as we had done many years ago. We could not find any churches that would baptize this way until we talked to a friend who went to a Oneness Pentecostal church. They agreed to baptize us in the name of Jesus so we decided to go there and be baptized, even though we were from a Church of Christ/Baptist type background...


Now from scripture, we have come to understand what just happened in both our lives; the Lord had come to us a second time, baptized us with His Spirit ...

This verse applies as to why she ceased receiving "words":

1Cor 13:8 Charity never fails: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. 9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. 10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. 11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
I have received the Holy Spirit 33 years ago. I pray and like all Christians, God answers our prayers. He loves us, teaches us, guides into all truth, edifies us, speaks, counsels, bears witness to and glories Christ, gives gifts, baptized us, makes promises, fellowships with us, sanctified us, justifies us, convicts us of sin and transforms us into the likeness of Christ.
Like many Christians, we all have wonderful stories of how Gid worked in our lives, messages He gives. I believe all the guidance and messages can be found in scripture ( though the personal guidance and stories of every Christian could not be contained in billions of books if ever they were written). For me, the Bible is sufficient and so I hold onto His Word.
Thanks for sharing your experience. My testimony would take too long.

*** Universalism is a false doctrine! Not all will he saved.
Our Father gives Jesus Only HIS Sheep, who hear His voice. Not all are His sheep. He made that clear with the Pharisees, whom He called a brood of vipers ( Satan is considered a venomous viper). Jesus condemned them: Serpents, brood of vipers! How can you escape the condemnation of hell? Matt. 23:33
Hell is the Lake of Fire.
The wages of sin is death!

We all suffer physical death, but there is the second death, destruction of both body and soul.

And these shall go away into everlasting (age-lasting or age- during) punishment: but the righteous into life eternal. Matt. 25:46
 
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Actually, the majority of mankind will perish (Mat 7:13,14).

Here are the verses:

Mat 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

The people who are cast into the Lake of Fire in the final age are headed for destruction because death is the penalty of sin.
it's the saddest thing in this life, that the majority of mankind will perish, for not choosing to believe in God and be right with Him. Of course in His omniscience He knew most would reject Him; but He also knows it's worth the few. Though the saved will be "innumerable" (Rev 7:9), they will be "few" in comparison to those perishing "many."
However, you are not taking into consideration what these verses below say.

Isa 28:9

Psa 119:160


You cannot take one verse of scripture and make assumptions about it.

When you read Mat 7:13-14, you are ignoring a great deal of scripture in order to support your false beliefs.

Below are verses you need to consider so that you don't make false assumptions on Mat 7:13-14 as you are doing.
Judging from your accusations it seems you don't understand what I'm sharing, but that's ok, as many others are also missing my points.
 

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A person can have a strong desire for God and die a Muslim, a Pagan, a Christ Rejector.
I like some of what you said, but we differ in understanding concerning this comment. I believe that it's when one has a true desire for God that He "draws" one (Jhn 6:44); and He has always known all who will desire Him, even before creating (Eph 1:4). God bless!!
 

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I like some of what you said, but we differ in understanding concerning this comment. I believe that it's when one has a true desire for God that He "draws" one (Jhn 6:44); and He has always known all who will desire Him, even before creating (Eph 1:4). God bless!!

Yet no verse in a Bible says that God knew who would "desire Him".

Do you have a verse that says that God "predestined some to desire Him"?

A.) Thats a no.

The Bible says that God foreknew, everyone who is going to become A Christian.

And the bible says that those God "foreknew", are ""predestined to become conformed into the image of Christ"

Calvinism + Tulip, changed all that into.. "God predestined only some to be saved".
 

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But it does refer to all the saved, though the passage intends primarily the apostles. God already knew all who are going to be His,

Yes, but knowing is not the same as causing.

God's knowing, is "for-knowing" is "Fore-Knowledge".. its the knowledge of all things that are going to happen next.

Calvin redefined "all knowing",...falsely....= as "pre-destined", and that is the core lie of Calvinism-Tulip-Hypercalvinism.


Now, i never met Calvin, so, i can't know if He KNOWINGLY Falsely redefined "God's Foreknowledge" as "God pre-destined it".. .or if This Heretic just didnt correctly understand the phrase "Fore-Knowledge"..
So, either, or.... what He did was redefine "God's Foreknowledge" as "God pre-destined", and that core decepiton is where the LIES become generated throughout TULIP and Hyper-Calvinism.

See, once Calvin redefined "KNOWING" means "CAUSING" then he just went "off the chain" and predestined everything., and that is what makes His Theology so demonic and deeply deceitful.


“Of those whom You gave Me I have lost none.”

Judas would disagree. (Liars are like that.)

Also, Jesus was on earth talking to His Father about the Apostles, in your verse.
 
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We discussed this "latter rain" theology back in April.
Post in thread 'The Only Way We Will Ever Agree' The Only Way We Will Ever Agree

I have received the Holy Spirit 33 years ago. I pray and like all Christians, God answers our prayers. He loves us, teaches us, guides into all truth, edifies us, speaks, counsels, bears witness to and glories Christ, gives gifts, baptized us, makes promises, fellowships with us, sanctified us, justifies us, convicts us of sin and transforms us into the likeness of Christ.
Like many Christians, we all have wonderful stories of how Gid worked in our lives, messages He gives. I believe all the guidance and messages can be found in scripture ( though the personal guidance and stories of every Christian could not be contained in billions of books if ever they were written). For me, the Bible is sufficient and so I hold onto His Word.
Thanks for sharing your experience. My testimony would take too long.

*** Universalism is a false doctrine! Not all will he saved.
Our Father gives Jesus Only HIS Sheep, who hear His voice. Not all are His sheep. He made that clear with the Pharisees, whom He called a brood of vipers ( Satan is considered a venomous viper). Jesus condemned them: Serpents, brood of vipers! How can you escape the condemnation of hell? Matt. 23:33
Hell is the Lake of Fire.
The wages of sin is death!

We all suffer physical death, but there is the second death, destruction of both body and soul.

And these shall go away into everlasting (age-lasting or age- during) punishment: but the righteous into life eternal. Matt. 25:46
Dear Ronald David Bruno,
What you received from Christ was the Early Rain of the Spirit and not the Latter Rain of the Spirit. The Early Rain of the Spirit is what gave you your faith in Christ. The spiritual truth of the New Covenant and conversion only occurs when Christ "comes again" to a person and pour out the Spirit of Truth (Latter Rain) upon them:

John 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

You see "Christ and Him crucified" (Christ's teachings of the Old Covenant) but you do not see Christ spiritually (Christ's teachings of the New Covenant).

Like all apostate believers, you do not see that when Christ first came to you, that He did so "in the flesh" (you saw Him carnally).

1John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh (Early Rain of the Spirit) is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

At this point, I see no beneficial reason to continue this discussion with you.

Joe
 
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Dear Ronald David Bruno,
What you received from Christ was the Early Rain of the Spirit and not the Latter Rain of the Spirit. The Early Rain of the Spirit is what gave you your faith in Christ.
The rain in Spain falls mainly on the plane.
 

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it's the saddest thing in this life, that the majority of mankind will perish, for not choosing to believe in God and be right with Him. Of course in His omniscience He knew most would reject Him; but He also knows it's worth the few. Though the saved will be "innumerable" (Rev 7:9), they will be "few" in comparison to those perishing "many."

Judging from your accusations it seems you don't understand what I'm sharing, but that's ok, as many others are also missing my points.
Dear Netchaplain,
I do understand what you are sharing because I used to believe and teach that understanding myself. But after I was converted in 2005, I stopped believing those false doctrines.

Scripture says that Christ is not willing that any should perish (2Pet 3:9) so why do you believe that Christ will not achieve His "will"/desire in this matter?

Job 23:13 But he is in one mind, and who can turn him? And what his soul desireth, that will he do.

Isa 55:11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.


You do not believe the verses above because the gospel you teach requires "works" from a person for them to be saved. The true Gospel requires no works from mankind for their salvation because all the works which are necessary are performed by Christ.

Eph 1:11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who WORKETH ALL THINGS after the counsel of his own will:

Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 NOT OF WORKS, lest any man should boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.


Until Christ causes you to come out of your "works" based belief system which comes from this world (your carnality), you are not going to be able to see the true Christ and His glorious Gospel as I do.

At this point, I see no beneficial reason to continue this discussion.

Joe
 

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Well, that is not what I've learned about evil. We learn to avoid evil and do good.
That is what I assume all follosers of Jesus is taught. Paul was being sarcastic.

But you called the results of Adam and Eves rebellion a good thing because it gave them knowledge of good and evil- and nowhere in Gods Word do we see that! We see death and destruction spread throughout Creation because of that rebellion.
 

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That is what I assume all follosers of Jesus is taught. Paul was being sarcastic.

But you called the results of Adam and Eves rebellion a good thing because it gave them knowledge of good and evil- and nowhere in Gods Word do we see that! We see death and destruction spread throughout Creation because of that rebellion.
Is His plan working?
Is He in control?
Yes.
God causes all things to work for good for those who love the Lord, for those who are called to His purpose.
So His plan included evil from the start.

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. IS. 45:7

Man did not mess up God's plan. God put that tree in the Garden for a purpose. That Book of Life was written before the foundation of the world.
I believe in a sovereign God and He had it all worked out beforehand.
The greatest act of love is that He died for us. If evil did not exist, we would not know death.
 
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Is His plan working?
Is He in control?
Yes.
God causes all things to work for good for those who love the Lord, for those who are called to His purpose.
So His plan included evil from the start.

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. IS. 45:7

Man did not mess up God's plan. God put that tree in the Garden for a purpose. That Book of Life was written before the foundation of the world.
I believe in a sovereign God and He had it all worked out beforehand.
The greatest act of love is that He died for us. If evil did not exist, we would not know death.
I agree with all you wrote here. But Scripture never calls the rebellion in the garden a good thing. God allowed it and uses it for His glory, but to call sin good is wrong.

That is why I quoted Paul:
7 For if the truth of God hath more abounded through my lie unto his glory; why yet am I also judged as a sinner?

8 And not rather, (as we be slanderously reported, and as some affirm that we say,) Let us do evil, that good may come? whose damnation is just.

You are implying that we can do evil simply because God will work it out for our good. While God does work it out for our good, to imply it is okay to rebel because it will become "enlightening" is a lie.
 

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I agree with all you wrote here. But Scripture never calls the rebellion in the garden a good thing. God allowed it and uses it for His glory, but to call sin good is wrong.
I never called sin good. Don't misconscrue my words. I said the knowledge of Good and Evil was necessary for man and that God's plan to include it was good. We are called to choose and learn the right choices between the two. We appreciate what is good more now than we know evil.
You are implying that we can do evil simply because God will work it out for our good.
No I did not.
You can certainly view "The Fall of Man" in the traditional way Christian scholars have presented it for millenia. I just think it was the only way God could teach us about morality and compplete his objective in us, to choose to love Him and one another. No one can force you to love them, a choice has to be given to love. And we simply need to say yes LORD because we chose to and desire to. And aren't the concepts of forgiveness, mercy, hope, peace and faith, (attributes that are wonderfully part of our new nature), things we would not be aware of unless evil was part of reality?
 

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I never called sin good. Don't misconscrue my words. I said the knowledge of Good and Evil was necessary for man and that God's plan to include it was good. We are called to choose and learn the right choices between the two. We appreciate what is good more now than we know evil.

No I did not.
You can certainly view "The Fall of Man" in the traditional way Christian scholars have presented it for millenia. I just think it was the only way God could teach us about morality and compplete his objective in us, to choose to love Him and one another. No one can force you to love them, a choice has to be given to love. And we simply need to say yes LORD because we chose to and desire to. And aren't the concepts of forgiveness, mercy, hope, peace and faith, (attributes that are wonderfully part of our new nature), things we would not be aware of unless evil was part of reality?
So in other words, you are saying that Adam and Eve were too stupid to learn from Gods what is right and wrong, or that God was such a lousy teacher, He could not instruct Adam and Eve in right from wrong except to allow them to rebel against HIm. Interesting
 

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I never called sin good. Don't misconscrue my words. I said the knowledge of Good and Evil was necessary for man and that God's plan to include it was good. We are called to choose and learn the right choices between the two. We appreciate what is good more now than we know evil.

No I did not.
You can certainly view "The Fall of Man" in the traditional way Christian scholars have presented it for millenia. I just think it was the only way God could teach us about morality and compplete his objective in us, to choose to love Him and one another. No one can force you to love them, a choice has to be given to love. And we simply need to say yes LORD because we chose to and desire to. And aren't the concepts of forgiveness, mercy, hope, peace and faith, (attributes that are wonderfully part of our new nature), things we would not be aware of unless evil was part of reality?
Something for you to ponder;
So you are saying we would not appreciat4e good more if we never became intimate with evil?

Adam and Eve had that choice to love (obey) or not. Don't eat the apple.

And you are saying if Adam and Eve never failed we would not know faith, love peace? Living in a perfect world, with no wars, murders. rapes. armies crime, pollution, tornadoes earthquakes super novas,death, disease, pain would not have been a wonderful thing all for us?

Evil was part of reality! Satan and 1/3 of the angels had fallen already. Being intimate with evil is never a good thing. God made redemption available to the elect, but your hypothesis has no basis in Scripture.
Matter of fact

Adam and Eve lost so much because they rebelled and we do not get it back until we go home to be with the Lord. We have only a taste now but are hindered because we live in bodies of sin and death.

Sorry but in raising my kids, I would have preferred they did not need to learn lessons the hard way as we all have to- it causes pain and misery to all.
 

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So in other words, you are saying that Adam and Eve were too stupid to learn from Gods what is right and wrong, or that God was such a lousy teacher, He could not instruct Adam and Eve in right from wrong except to allow them to rebel against HIm. Interesting
Not stupid, probably genius level intelligence, they were just unaware of evil. Remember, he was assigned to name every creature in the Garden - how many is that, tens of thousands _ didn 't write them down, he remembered them. I can't remember someone's name I met two weeks ago ... I can remember yours though.
God couldn't teach them what evil was without showing them and having them experience it themselves.
 

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So you are saying we would not appreciat4e good more if we never became intimate with evil?

And you are saying if Adam and Eve never failed we would not know faith, love peace?

Living in a perfect world, with no wars, murders. rapes. armies crime, pollution, tornadoes earthquakes super novas,death, disease, pain would not have been a wonderful thing all for us?
See, you compare good with the absence of evil - because you know what evil is - Adam and Eve did not know evil.
Evil was part of reality! Satan and 1/3 of the angels had fallen already.
Not there's yet, it had to be introduced. This is why the tree was put there and Satan as well. That btw is not my idea of Paradise with the possibility of evil and Satan roaming around and getting kicked. No, we will see a better and perfect environment soon.
Sorry but in raising my kids, I would have preferred they did not need to learn lessons the hard way as we all have to- it causes pain and misery to all.
No pain no gain as they say.

How about the kids brought up in Hades before the earthquake? Many of them were exposed to demonic possession, voodoo ...and all sorts of evils. They were in fear, impoverished and miserable most of the time. Then the earthquake came. 300k died. God's grace shined upon them. The world, who up until then, ignored their sufferings; but now were focused on helping them. Love came ... God sent help: aid, food, peace, mercy, goodness, a Light, the gospel. Now they learned what love is. They were grateful. They certainly appreciate everything that is good. From misery to smiles, joy, relief, peace, comfort. They appreciate good more than we do. Americans take it for granted, we are spoiled. I realized this after I traveled abroad to poor countries and saw their need of everyday things that we have in abundance.
 

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Not stupid, probably genius level intelligence, they were just unaware of evil. Remember, he was assigned to name every creature in the Garden - how many is that, tens of thousands _ didn 't write them down, he remembered them. I can't remember someone's name I met two weeks ago ... I can remember yours though.
God couldn't teach them what evil was without showing them and having them experience it themselves.
Maybe just hundreds dogs included all dogs! Adam most likely did not have 200-300 species of different dogs.

Once again you say genius level intelligence which is wrong. No matter what fancy phrasing you use you are still saying, that God allowed them to do evil so they may have knowledge of it and then appreciate mercy, grace more etc.

That is the same as a parent letting thieir child burn their hand on a stove so they can know how bad it hurrts and compare that to when they don't hurt.
 

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That is the same as a parent letting thieir child burn their hand on a stove so they can know how bad it hurrts and compare that to when they don't hurt.
No they weren't children, likely adults. Besides we both know that though we are protective of our children, we can't be overprotective - it has negative consequences. We must let children fall, make mistakes as we guide them to get up and keep trying and they learn from mistakes. We can see how all things work together for good with this plan.
Once again you say genius level intelligence which is wrong. No matter what fancy phrasing you use you are still saying, that God allowed them to do evil so they may have knowledge of it and then appreciate mercy, grace more etc
Why, you think God made Stephen Hawking a genius but not Adam?
God allows evil for a purpose and has a lot more to do with it than you think.
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things. Isaiah 45:7
In other translations evil is (disaster, calamities, troubles, woes, doom).
Your perspective needs to be adjusted. When the Israelites were defeated by Babylonians, disaster, calamities (all sorts of evil) struck and then they were enslaved. Who did it? GOD DID! HE PUNISHED THEM. Their perspective might have evil has come upon us ... Satan... and that is true. But what was God's perspective? He was doing it for their good in a long run.

Maybe just hundreds dogs included all dogs! Adam most likely did not have 200-300 species of different dogs.
Dogs came from wolves, that is one kind.
We can go to the zoo and see up to 6,000 species of animals in captivity. That doesn't account for all wild animals. Initially there were fewer kinds of course.
 
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No they weren't children, likely adults. Besides we both know that though we are protective of our children, we can't be overprotective - it has negative consequences. We must let children fall, make mistakes as we guide them to get up and keep trying and they learn from mistakes. We can see how all things work together for good with this plan.
Then why do they have to learn from their mistakes? Show me in Scripture this is Gods plan for mankind.
Why, you think God made Stephen Hawking a genius but not Adam?
God allows evil for a purpose and has a lot more to do with it than you think.
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things. Isaiah 45:7
In other translations evil is (disaster, calamities, troubles, woes, doom).
Your perspective needs to be adjusted. When the Israelites were defeated by Babylonians, disaster, calamities (all sorts of evil) struck and then they were enslaved. Who did it? GOD DID! HE PUNISHED THEM. Their perspective might have evil has come upon us ... Satan... and that is true. But what was God's perspective? He was doing it for their good in a long run.
These evils were all the results and progressive growth of sin in mankind and not Gods plan to teach us from our mistakes. Show from Scripture God teaches that way.
Dogs came from wolves, that is one kind.
We can go to the zoo and see up to 6,000 species of animals in captivity. That doesn't account for all wild animals. Initially there were fewer kinds of course.
And species is not what Adam named but most likely familes, or genres.
 

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And species is not what Adam named but most likely familes, or genres.
What are you arguing against, that God instructed Adam to name all the animals? How many do you think there were? He lived 930 years. Scholars have estimated that there were some 7,800 pairs of animals on the Ark. Additionally many insects can survive under the soils, in trees, finding pockets of air, so could survive the Flood, but likely many made it on the boat too?
Then why do they have to learn from their mistakes? Show me in Scripture this is Gods plan for mankind.
Too numerous to mention. Much scripture shows us the history of Israel having to learn the hard lessons of disobedience and sin resulting in chastisements and judgments.
Didn't you pick that up from the OT?