The preachers are all dumb dogs

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quietthinker

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Yet another typical fail lacking the love of Christ. :(
Scott, you want to dribble on without rebuke and when it comes you are offended and try to turn the tables. It's a game as old as mankind.
 

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Scott, you want to dribble on without rebuke and when it comes you are offended and try to turn the tables. It's a game as old as mankind.

Was that an "offended" emoticon? No (wrong as usual).

When someone who calls themselves a Christian, is constantly rude. it's "sad." :( ...and no, that's not "rebuke", that's a psychological defense mechanism.
 

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Was that an "offended" emoticon? No (wrong as usual).

When someone who calls themselves a Christian, is constantly rude. it's "sad." :( ...and no, that's not "rebuke", that's a psychological defense mechanism.
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Isaiah 56:9-12 All you beasts of the open country and the forest, come and eat your fill. For all of Israel’s watchmen are blind, perceiving nothing, they are all as dumb dogs that cannot bark, dreaming and sleeping. They are like greedy dogs that can never be satisfied, they are shepherds unable to understand the truth, as they go their own way. They say: Come let us fetch wine, strong drink and we will swill it down. The future will be the same as today or better still!

Isaiah 29:9-12 If you confuse yourself, you will stay confused, if you blind yourself, you will stay blinded. Be drunk, but not with wine, for the Lord has poured upon you a spirit of deep stupor. He has closed the prophetic vision and sealed the means of discerning the future to you.

Jeremiah 14:11-16 The Lord said to me: Do not pray for the wellbeing of this people. [the Jews] Though they fast and worship Me, [but not in spirit and in truth] I shall not listen to their cry on the Day of My punishment.
But Lord – their leaders and pastors say to them: you will not face the terrible sword of judgement and they preach prosperity and escape from tribulation.


Jeremiah 14:14-16 The Lord answered me: These are lies that your leaders are misleading the people with. I have not sent them, I have not given them My commission, or spoken to them. They are giving out false teachings, useless advice and their own foolish daydreams............... Therefore, I say about those teachers and pastors who speak falsely in My Name, they will meet their end in My Day of wrath, I shall pour down upon them the disaster they deserve.

2 Timothy 4:3-4 The time will come when people will not stand sound teaching, but each will go after their own desires and will only listen to teachers who give pleasant and easy outcomes. People will refuse to listen to true scriptural teaching. They will only believe fables and fanciful notions. 1 Timothy 1:7
Ref: REB.

Beasts of the field’, foreigners, godless peoples. Those who have ‘encroached onto the holy Land’. Jeremiah 12:14

Israel’s watchmen perceive nothing’, the veil that hides the true knowledge of God’s Word is upon them and todays teachers, because of their false beliefs. 2 Peter 2:1-3

If you confuse yourself, you will stay confused’, Even when the truth is presented to people who think they have it all sorted, they just cannot see it. Jeremiah 6:10

They preach prosperity, the prosperity theology that gives a sense of false security and escape from tribulation’, The very wrong and pretentious idea of a pre tribulation rapture, that lulls people into thinking they need do nothing.

‘People will refuse to listen to true scriptural teaching’, 2 Peter 2:1-3, 2 Peter 3:3-5

My Day of wrath: The great and terrible Day of the Lord’s vengeance and wrath. Rev 6:12-17, Zephaniah i:14-18, 2 Peter 3:7 The next prophesied event to happen.

But for those who make the effort to overcome the false teachings, the fictional books that proliferate on the book stalls and all the rubbish on the internet, there is hope: Psalms 78:1-8, Isaiah 55:1-3, Psalms 25:8-9, Psalms 27:11-12, Psalms 32:8, 2 Peter 1:19
One terrible reality my way is that a doctors degree in theology does not mean devine revelation from God.
 

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why not take it out of the realm of the nebulas, Scott and put it into that of the tangible
Because one can't avoid the nebulous in spiritual matters. The Jews have 613 commandments but it didn't make them a Godly people. And the discernment they had became superficial. They judged rather something was in accordance to the law and therefore God's will using reason.

I would argue that Jesus' commandments are spiritual first. And this is what makes his burden light. But it also makes the commands subject to the heart of the observer. Who depends on the Holy Spirit to give us a new heart.
 

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Because one can't avoid the nebulous in spiritual matters. The Jews have 613 commandments but it didn't make them a Godly people. And the discernment they had became superficial. They judged rather something was in accordance to the law and therefore God's will using reason.

I would argue that Jesus' commandments are spiritual first. And this is what makes his burden light. But it also makes the commands subject to the heart of the observer. Who depends on the Holy Spirit to give us a new heart.
Matters are only nebulas when ones understanding of the foundation one claims is unclear/ confused.