The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

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That is absolutely true. Pretrib doctrine is a random mishmash of unrelated scriptures. It is truly a giant, convoluted, indiscernible, incomprehensible mess. I can barely take it seriously.

LOL. Stop downplaying it. It is a complete mess. They cannot even provide one single proof text. They cannot even frame a compelling argument. It is utter confusion. It is ridiculous.
 
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Reset? You mean me. Sorry pal. I don't wat to start talking to you again simply because you have no heart. Or you dont know how to talk or something. Maybe you're just used to speaking to a congregation where no one ever disagrees then they clap at the end? That aint me and this aint that medium. These forums are interactive. So I speak.

I happen to disagree with you, but that just sets you off. And you just dont speak my language, cant speak diplomat, and sound like you have not one humble bone in your body. So out of the abundance of our heart, the mouth will speak and you speaking to me like you do it makes me fell like, even if I decided that I was wrong and it was posttrib and I had a question? I wouldnt come to you. Because you dont even try to be amicable.

So it is pointless for you talk to me! I agree. You've lost my respect if any existed. Let's drop it ok? I agree to disagree with you and not talk to you.

Now you owe me a dollar for psychological help. Your welcome. Give it to someone poorer than me that needs it. If you had a heart, you'd make it 20 because 5 bucks aint even enough for lunch anymore.
Says the guy who asks ridiculous questions like "Do you believe in prophecy?" and "Do you believe in the God who knows the end from the beginning"? Come on. Imagine us asking you questions like that. What person here would say no to those questions? No one. Absolutely ridiculous questions to ask anyone here since only Christians are posting here. You seem to be rather proud of your supposed humility. Do you think it's humble to ask condescending questions like that? It's not.
 

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LOL. Stop downplaying it. It is a complete mess. They cannot even provide one single proof text. They cannot even even frame a compelling argument. It is utter confusion. It is ridiculous.
LOL. I literally laughed out loud at you calling what I said "downplaying it". That was a good one.
 

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LOL. I literally laughed out loud at you calling what I said "downplaying it". That was a good one.
I know. LOL. The sad think it: you are spot on. People need to call it out. Many swallow this nonsense that enjoys no biblical roots. It is a Jesuit doctrine.
 

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I have never seen a single postribber unpack the virgins parable ( a vivid pretrib rapture by the groom),
Have you done that? Or are you asking us to do something that even you haven't done, which would be quite ridiculous. Why don't you share your interpretation of the parable and then I will share mine. Or I will go first if you prefer. Doesn't matter to me. Let me know.

No postribber has ever unpacked the "0ne taken/left" of mat 24.
That is a lie. Both WPM and I have done that extensively. Just because you haven't seen it (somehow - we have covered that many times) doesn't mean it hasn't been done.

Never have seen any of them honestly address the pretrib rapture verses.
I guess you are blind then? Because we most certainly have. Many times.

So we basically own end times.
LOL. That was a good one. Are you a comedian for a living?
 

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I know. LOL. The sad think it: you are spot on. People need to call it out. Many swallow this nonsense that enjoys no biblical roots. It is a Jesuit doctrine.
I do admit to hesitating a little bit to call it out like that, knowing you used to believe in it. But, it's too late now. I've done it. :D
 

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You wallow in ad hominem. Your posts ooze bitterness. Sad!

All the time you can't even present 1 proof text that supports Pretrib. Telling! No wonder you are frustrated.

I honestly think you are paranoid. I have not edited anything. But trying to change you is (indeed) pointless, but there are many observers watching on who are open to let the Bible speak for itself. That is why i continue to write. I therefore reserve the right to rebut any post you write that is unscriptural.

It sounds like your going on some sort of crusade against pretribbers?

What is your goal in that? To make me stop watching for Jesus? You and your lying buddy never even answered my question about, what's evil about pretribbers? WHat do they do? They watch for their Lord the way scripture says to.

We say, watch sooner than postribbers for the Lord.
WHat do you and your wifey in lies say? Oh their insane, Don't watch for Jesus!!!

You know what you guys remind me of? (You two) not all posttribers. You are so vocal and so mean and vicious and act like you are right and there is no other way to think but your way! That's just like the gay guys and the trans supporters and gbtzers and all of their ilk.

Are you and him gay too? You have the same spirit. You guys sound just them guys. Ok go on crusade against me boi. I can see that you see a real danger in pretribber talk and that would mean a bigger harvest for the Lord and less for you evil one's god.
 

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John 5:25

"Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live."

Can you figure out who the dead are?
Back up a verse for the answer.

24 “I assure you and most solemnly say to you, the person who hears My word [the one who heeds My message], and believes and trusts in Him who sent Me, has (possesses now) eternal life [that is, eternal life actually begins—the believer is transformed], and does not come into judgment and condemnation, but has passed [over] from death into life.
 
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It sounds like your going on some sort of crusade against pretribbers?

What is your goal in that? To make me stop watching for Jesus? You and your lying buddy never even answered my question about, what's evil about pretribbers? WHat do they do? They watch for their Lord the way scripture says to.

We say, watch sooner than postribbers for the Lord.
WHat do you and your wifey in lies say? Oh their insane, Don't watch for Jesus!!!

You know what you guys remind me of? (You two) not all posttribers. You are so vocal and so mean and vicious and act like you are right and there is no other way to think but your way! That's just like the gay guys and the trans supporters and gbtzers and all of their ilk.

Are you and him gay too? You have the same spirit. You guys sound just them guys. Ok go on crusade against me boi. I can see that you see a real danger in pretribber talk and that would mean a bigger harvest for the Lord and less for you evil one's god.
All of us watch for Jesus.
The danger in preaching a pretribulation is that a new convert may be unprepared when eventually faced with great tribulation.
We should preach that tribulations will come our way, as Scripture states, even to the point of being killed for the faith like the Apostles and many others.
Cannot imagine them teaching a pretrib when they themselves lost their lives. That doesn't make any sense does it.
 

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It sounds like your going on some sort of crusade against pretribbers?
No, his crusade and my crusade and those who believe like we do are against the pretrib doctrine. It's nothing personal against pretribbers themselves. Big difference. We believe strongly in God's word and in the truth and we defend it against false teaching. Is that wrong? Is that not also what you're trying to do from your own perspective?

What is your goal in that? To make me stop watching for Jesus? You and your lying buddy
What did I lie about, big man? Mr. Non-Ninny himself. Mr. Tough Guy. Tell me.

never even answered my question about, what's evil about pretribbers? WHat do they do? They watch for their Lord the way scripture says to.
Nothing. Who said pretribbers are evil? No one. You come across as paranoid.

We say, watch sooner than postribbers for the Lord.
We say watch that you are not deceived, like the Lord said to do (Matthew 24:4) while we wait for His second coming.

WHat do you and your wifey in lies say?
Wow. You are very clever with your insults. You have an incredibly high level of immaturity. You should consider stepping back from this forum while working on becoming an adult, and then later come back and discuss these things like a grown adult. Right now, you are just a toddler. You are barely sipping the milk of God's word instead of eating the solid food.

Oh their insane, Don't watch for Jesus!!!
We've never said that. And you call me a liar?

You know what you guys remind me of? (You two) not all posttribers. You are so vocal and so mean and vicious and act like you are right and there is no other way to think but your way!
Stop being a hypocrite. That is exactly how you come across when you ask ridiculous questions like "Do you believe in prophecy?" and "Do you believe in the God who knows the end from the beginning?" and who likes a post where another pre-tribber says "We own the end times". Who are you trying to kid here? Seriously. Look in the mirror.

That's just like the gay guys and the trans supporters and gbtzers and all of their ilk.
LOL! Just when I thought you couldn't get any more immature, you prove me wrong.

Are you and him gay too? You have the same spirit. You guys sound just them guys.
You've gone off the deep end. I hope you can swim. And you think we are insulting? LOL. Again, look in the mirror. Grow up already.

Ok go on crusade against me boi.
No one's on a crusade against anyone. Just the false pre-trib doctrine. Your paranoia is sad to see.

I can see that you see a real danger in pretribber talk and that would mean a bigger harvest for the Lord and less for you evil one's god.
LOL. Keep fooling yourself if that's what you want to do.
 

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It sounds like your going on some sort of crusade against pretribbers?

What is your goal in that? To make me stop watching for Jesus? You and your lying buddy never even answered my question about, what's evil about pretribbers? WHat do they do? They watch for their Lord the way scripture says to.

We say, watch sooner than postribbers for the Lord.
WHat do you and your wifey in lies say? Oh their insane, Don't watch for Jesus!!!

You know what you guys remind me of? (You two) not all posttribers. You are so vocal and so mean and vicious and act like you are right and there is no other way to think but your way! That's just like the gay guys and the trans supporters and gbtzers and all of their ilk.

Are you and him gay too? You have the same spirit. You guys sound just them guys. Ok go on crusade against me boi. I can see that you see a real danger in pretribber talk and that would mean a bigger harvest for the Lord and less for you evil one's god.
Admin needs to get your mum's email and tell her you are online unsupervised.
 
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For those who know no proof is necessary. For those who do not no proof is possible.


Wait and see. That's all any on either side of the issue will do.
Though I'll tell you a fact of your lifetime.

Not one person here will ever see. No matter how long they wait.
 

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And still, you want to talk to me.

In a different post of yours, you basically told me that if I wont play by your rules, then it is pointless to talk to me. I don't seem to be able to find that post now. I bet you went and edited that post to take that out now. But I read it and you said it.

And you dont set the rules for me. That was a girlish statement by you to make anyway. What should I do now? Oh my gosh he wont talk to me anymore! I better bow down a little to this guy or he wont even speak to me!

No sale. It's pointless for you to talk to me. You have edified no one, and you have a bad attitude. WHy would I come to a guy like you for anything? So I do agree with you on one thing. It's pointless for you to talk to me. Stop talking to me, please, PLEASE!

Or maybe you just want to have the last word with me? That's another girlish trait, lol. Stop it.
You are such a tough guy. Apparently, you think anyone who disagrees with you is either a girl or gay. As if understanding the truth in scripture is based on physical toughness and being as manly as possible. LOL! Keep the laughs coming.

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That isnt the way I learned it.

I am a spirit. I have a soul. I live in a flesh body.

1 Thessalonians 5:23
And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord.../KJV

Not only that but the spirit and soul are locked together and cannot be seperated.

Hebrews 4:12
12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.../KJV
Of course the spirit is seperate and before the throne of God. That is why you are spiritually dead. Your soul is separated from the spirit. Besides the spirit is put on over the body. That is what Christ demonstrated on the mount of Transfiguration. His face started to shine like the sun.

In Revelation 6, the 5th Seal, the robe of white is symbolic of putting on the spirit.

Hebrews 4:12 has no context to say that one already has the spirit that is missing from all. The word for breath is the same word. Air is the same word. Without context it could be just your air that sustains life or the removal of the Holy Spirit.

If your spirit is corrupt, that is where demons originate from. Only demons can possess a person. Otherwise the clearest Scripture on what a spirit is can be found in both Kings and Chronicles when the kings went to battle, and a lying spirit came from God to deceive the prophets with a false message.

1 Kings 22

"I saw the Lord sitting on his throne, and all the host of heaven standing by him on his right hand and on his left. And the Lord said, Who shall persuade Ahab, that he may go up and fall at Ramothgilead? And one said on this manner, and another said on that manner. And there came forth a spirit, and stood before the Lord, and said, I will persuade him. And the Lord said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, Thou shalt persuade him, and prevail also: go forth, and do so."


and 2 Chronicles 18


"I saw the Lord sitting upon his throne, and all the host of heaven standing on his right hand and on his left. And the Lord said, Who shall entice Ahab king of Israel, that he may go up and fall at Ramothgilead? And one spake saying after this manner, and another saying after that manner. Then there came out a spirit, and stood before the Lord, and said, I will entice him. And the Lord said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will go out, and be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And the Lord said, Thou shalt entice him, and thou shalt also prevail: go out, and do even so."

If one's spirit is not among that heavenly host, then that person has become reprobate and the spirit is now a demon. That is why the soul and body need to remain blameless to allow the spirit also to remain blameless.


If you had a soul body and spirit, you would be a complete son of God without Adam's dead corruptible flesh. People don't even think a soul has a physical body currently in Paradise. They certainly are not connected to their spirit. The spirit is given at the 5th Seal, when the rapture happens and the church as one body is glorified. Then told to wait until Jesus was finished working and gathering a harvest on the earth.

There are still people on the earth after the Second Coming/rapture. The 6th and 5th Seals. That would be the final harvest and firstfruits of the Millennial Kingdom on earth.

Unfortunately you have in this thread many pre-mill who agree with amil against God's Word. But no one here seems to accept the 5th and 6th Seals as the rapture and Second Coming.


Revelation 6 does not have the talking points of the "left behind" mentality, that even amil base their argument on. Why does the one poster keep asking "left behind" "talking points" instead of Scripture? That is their only argument. Even some amil are looking for an AC and some form of trouble. But many think 70AD was worse than the holocaust. I guess they never read about the concentration camps where German pharmacology practiced their medicine? Can you imagine purposely making prisoners sick, so they could find a cure for pain? There was cannibalism in some camps.

If one thinks 70AD and the world wars were bad, wait until the Holy Spirit is actually removed from the soul via the Word of God.

People who think they can persevere through the final harvest where the angels are constantly tossing humans into the LOF. Where Israel is gathered before their King in Jerusalem, after the baptism of fire has consumed all the works of mankind, they will wish they were in a better place like a German concentration camp, where there was at least a Holy Spirit at work.
 

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The first thing we should note here is that Jesus tells us that the “Coming” of the Lord and the gathering (i.e. catching away) of the saints occurs after the tribulation.
Exactly. The coming of the Lord, the second coming, and the gathering from heaven and earth occurs immediately after the tribulation.

What you haven't figured out is it is the Church that is gathered from heaven and the seed of the woman, the twelve tribes across the earth that is gathered from the earth. Those of the twelve tribes that come out of great tribulation, are singing the song of Moses.

Revelation 15
2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.

3 And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints.

But you can't possibly understand this because you are wearing the "The Church has replaced Israel" glasses.
2 Thessalonians 2:1-4 and this correlate and negate the Pretrib argument that the “gathering” (i.e. catching away) of the saints occurs before the tribulation period.
The gathering from heaven and earth occurs immediately after the tribulation.

Not only does He gather the living elect “from the four winds... of the earth”
Which are those with their blindness remove from the 12 tribes across the earth

but He also gathers His elect from “the uttermost part of heaven.”
That would be the Church that is already in heaven that is gathered from heaven.

Jesus comes “with” and “for” His saints. This challenges the popular Pretrib theory that Christ is simply coming “for” His saints the second time and coming “with” his saints the third time (7yrs later).
It is the Church that comes WITH Him as we are gathered from heaven (raptured pretrib). It is the believing seed of the woman, 12 tribes across the earth that are raptured from the earth immediately after the tribulation of those days. That is who He comes FOR.

Jesus warned in Luke 21:33-36: Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away. And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares (or) aifnídios (or suddenly). For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.”

Prevailing or persevering ensures an escape from the sudden “snare” that comes upon the world at the end – namely “Heaven and earth shall pass away.” The prevailing is the experience of every saint that perseveres to the end and triumphs in Christ. They will be rescued before the total destruction.
You still don't get it do you. What all the dweller from the face of the earth can escape from is the DAY OF THE LORD. The days of the Lord is the 1 year wrath of God. You have the Church on earth during the trumpets of Gods wrath. The Church is raptured before the great tribulation. The twelve tribes across the earth are raptured immediately after the tribulation, at the 6th seal, BEFORE THE WRATH OF GOD.

You have the Church going through the wrath of God, when we are not appointed to wrath.

What you believe is entirely against the scripture and easily provable.

Here, the reader is admonished to be ready for the Lord’s return lest that day catch him aifnídios (or) suddenly. In Christ’s warning of His Coming He explains that “as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.” The snare is all-embracing. The destruction relates to all that miss the catching away; they are caught helplessly in a trap with no escape. Just like Noah and Lot’s days, there will be no survivors at the second coming of the Lord. The destruction shall come as a snare on all the inhabitants of the earth that are outside of Christ.
When the Church is raptured when it is like the days of Noah, the door is shut.

Lot leaves Sodom the days of destruction. That day is the Day of the Lord.

There are two raptures.

 

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The phrase "ye may be accounted worthy" (Luke 21:36) is taken from the single Greek word katischuo which simply means: to ‘prevail’ or to ‘prevail against’. But ‘prevail against’ what? This text like many would seem to indicate tribulation and persecution in this intra-Advent period – thus proving that the tribulation has been ongoing since Bible times.Yeah yeah
Only problem is YOU ARE TOTALLY MISREPRENTING THE SCRIPTURE. You are changing the word kataxioō which means "To account worthy or judge worthy" to katischuo WHICH IS NOT IN THE TEXT.
Don't you think that this is dishonest and leading others from the truth?


Additionally, you leave out the word ekpheugō which means to flee out or escape.

Who really twists the scripture to protect their false doctrine?

Further, the tribulation of those days is the great tribulation which prove the tribulation HAS NOT BEGUN YET. So your contention is totally and completely false.
 

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Exactly. The coming of the Lord, the second coming, and the gathering from heaven and earth occurs immediately after the tribulation.
And, yet, you somehow believe that 1 Thessalonians 4:14-17 occurs before the tribulation even though it describes a gathering from heaven and earth at the second coming of the Lord. :confused:

Gathering from heaven at the second coming of the Lord:

1 Thessalonians 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

Gathering from earth at the second coming of the Lord:

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

This is all the same event and happens at the same time and will happen immediately after the tribulation, just as you said regarding the time when there is a gathering from heaven and earth. But, again, you still somehow don't acknowledge that 1 Thess 4:14-17 will occur after the tribulation. I don't understand that at all.
 

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And, yet, you somehow believe that 1 Thessalonians 4:14-17 occurs before the tribulation even though it describes a gathering from heaven and earth at the second coming of the Lord. :confused:
No 1 Thes 4 describes the spring barley harvest and the summer wheat harvest. Learn the feast of God.
Gathering from heaven at the second coming of the Lord:

1 Thessalonians 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
The alive that remain will not prevent them which are asleep. The dead in Christ will rise first. They will go heaven. The Lord will bring them with Him when He returns for the alive that remained.
Gathering from earth at the second coming of the Lord:

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
This is the gathering from the earth at the second coming.

1 Cor 15
51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

You are confusing the Lord Himself coming and the Lord sending His angels.

The Lord sends His angels at the rapture at the 6th seal seen here. This is the fall fruit harvest. Learn the feast of God.

Rev 14
14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.

15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.

16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.

17 And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.

18 And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.

19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.
This is all the same event and happens at the same time and will happen immediately after the tribulation, just as you said regarding the time when there is a gathering from heaven and earth. But, again, you still somehow don't acknowledge that 1 Thess 4:14-17 will occur after the tribulation. I don't understand that at all.
You don't understand that because you do not understand that the wrath of God and the Great Tribulation are not the same thing.
You have the Church going thru the wrath of God when we are not appointed to wrath. You have got to know that something is not right.

IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE TRIBULATION.....................That occurs at the 6th seal. Then the wrath of God begins. There is a rapture at the 6th seal, but it is not the Church being raptured.
 

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Only problem is YOU ARE TOTALLY MISREPRENTING THE SCRIPTURE. You are changing the word kataxioō which means "To account worthy or judge worthy" to katischuo WHICH IS NOT IN THE TEXT.
Don't you think that this is dishonest and leading others from the truth?


Additionally, you leave out the word ekpheugō which means to flee out or escape.

Who really twists the scripture to protect their false doctrine?

Further, the tribulation of those days is the great tribulation which prove the tribulation HAS NOT BEGUN YET. So your contention is totally and completely false.
Goodness sakes. Calm down. Why don't you give him a chance to explain before accusing him of lying? He may be talking about a word that kataxioō is derived from or something along those lines. Why don't you wait to find out before losing your mind and accusing him of lying?

Anyway, it seems like what should be discussed is what exactly was Jesus saying they would be worthy to escape? So, let's look at that.

Luke 21:33 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away. 34 And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares. 35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. 36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

Now, the context of what Jesus said in verse 36 does not pertain to all of the things that He had said previously to that in the Olivet Discourse, as you might think (not sure if you think that or not). Notice in verse 34 that He talks about not letting "that day" catch them unaware. Then He indicated that what will happen on "that day" will "come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth". And then Jesus said to pray to be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass. Again, the context of what we should pray to be found worthy of escaping was the things that would happen on "that day" that would "come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth". What day is that? He alluded to it in verse 33. The day when "heaven and earth shall pass away".

So, He was alluding to this same day that Peter wrote about:

2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? 13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Jesus was talking about praying to be worthy to escape the day that Jesus comes and burns up the heavens and the earth earth. The day when "heaven and earth shall pass away". I'd say that qualifies as something "that will come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth", as Jesus talked about. At no other time before this will it be necessary to be taken off of the earth. Notice what Peter says in verse 11 and 12 here. It explains how we can be worthy to escape this. By making sure we continue being the "manner of persons" that Peter talks about in verses 11 and 12. That we continue being Christians, in other words. We should pray for God to help us to "endure to the end" (Matthew 24:13).