Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author
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Michiah-Imla
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“…the word of the LORD is unto them a reproach; they have no delight in it.” (Jeremiah 6:10, KJV)
“(For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ: Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.)” (Philippians 3:18-19, KJV)
LOL
Do you actually think he was talking about the Bible? A history lesson is in order.
Majority Text vs. Critical Text vs. Textus Receptus – Textual Criticism 101
https://www.bereanpatriot.com/majority-text-vs-critical-text-vs-textus-receptus-textual-criticism-101/#Corruption-of-the-Alexandrian-text-type]
Michiah-Imla
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So you think the Bible isn’t God’s word.
You’re exposed. That was easy.
I’m not interested in whatever “history” seduced you into your wicked view of the Bible.
Carl Emerson
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As usual in these discussions, folks don't distinguish between
1. The Living Everlasting Word of God, the Logos which sustains all of creation, in other words Jesus...
And
2. The Scripture - a reference to Truth given by God as written text that can not be understood of itself, but the reader will only understand the Truth as the Holy Spirit gives understanding and discernment.
Two very different entities - both precious - The former alone (No. 1) is rightly worshiped.
1. The Living Everlasting Word of God, the Logos which sustains all of creation, in other words Jesus...
And
2. The Scripture - a reference to Truth given by God as written text that can not be understood of itself, but the reader will only understand the Truth as the Holy Spirit gives understanding and discernment.
Two very different entities - both precious - The former alone (No. 1) is rightly worshiped.
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Good point.
Pretty sure I do, but thanks the comment. (others may benefit)
Agree.
What? I'm stunned. The former being what exactly? Rightly worshiped?
I hope you didn't mean the Bible. (Rightly worshiped?)
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Carl Emerson
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As in "the Word"? (Jesus)
Probably seemed obvious to you, but perhaps not to other readers.
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Hillsage
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Wow Steven.....when I read this I thought it was so good I just hoped you wrote ever bit of it.
That way I can ask only you for permission to use it on my wife's FACEBOOK because I don't do FACEBOOK. 
But since our old church is in a meltdown implosion I am trying to help people get out before it comes down on their heads. So, did you originate the whole post? If yes, then I can share 'that point' and not be guilty of the silent lie that I originated it.
Hillsage
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You may not be DEAD but you're down for a 10 count with all I'm reading concerning your 'training'. I totally correct the errors I find in my bibleS. I corrected my bibles AGAIN just last night. Actually I corrected 6 of them. And only ONE did the verse justice.
KJV TIT 1:2 In hope of eternal/aionios life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world/aionios began;
NKJTIT 1:2 in hope of eternal/aionios life which God, who cannot lie, promised before time began/aionios,
RSV TIT 1:2 in hope of eternal/aionios life which God, who never lies, promised ages /aionios ago
NAS TIT 1:2 in the hope of eternal/aionios life, which God, who cannot lie, promised long ages/aionios ago,
NIVTIT 1:2 a faith and knowledge resting on the hope of eternal/aionios life, which God, who does not lie, promised before the beginning of time/aionios,
And the WINNER is;
YLT
TIT 1:2 upon hope of life age-during/aionios, which God, who doth not lie, did promise before times of ages/aionios,
And the losers are the ones who only say ETERNAL the first time. Then they change the definition every time into a definiton that absolutely disagrees with the first definition.
SO did "GOD LIE" contrary to this scripture above? Or have indoctrinated scholars lied and not been true to God's inspiration, in order to protect the HELL of an eternal doctrine.
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Carl Emerson
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By the way, Jemeriah 6:10 is a reference to what Jeremiah, under the unction of the Hoy Spirit was speaking as a Prophet of God to Israel.
This was a manifestation of the Eternal Word of God, (Jesus speaking through him) he wasn't reading Scripture.
For those who doubt Jesus the Son of God spoke and was respected in OT times - consider the following verse...
Psalm 2:12
Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.
This was a manifestation of the Eternal Word of God, (Jesus speaking through him) he wasn't reading Scripture.
For those who doubt Jesus the Son of God spoke and was respected in OT times - consider the following verse...
Psalm 2:12
Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.
So, the Jewish concept of pre-existence is unknown to you.
Ps 2:9–12 Thou dost rule them with a sceptre of iron, As a vessel of a potter Thou dost crush them.’
And now, O kings, act wisely, Be instructed, O judges of earth,
Serve ye Jehovah with fear, And rejoice with trembling.
Kiss the Chosen One, lest He be angry, And ye lose the way, When His anger burneth but a little, O the happiness of all trusting in Him!
PREEXISTENCE - JewishEncyclopedia.com
Complete contents the 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia.
Michiah-Imla
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He wrote down everything that God spoke to him:
“Take thee a roll of a book, and write therein all the words that I have spoken unto thee against Israel, and against Judah, and against all the nations, from the day I spake unto thee, from the days of Josiah, even unto this day.” (Jeremiah 36:2, KJV)
Stop degrading the Holy Bible!!
Behold
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According to GENESIS.....The original bible (word of God) corrector is the Devil.
He's still doing it.
CadyandZoe
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There are no contradictions in the Bible. There are "apparent" contractions, which are resolved once the passages are properly understood.
Behold
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"agenda'..
What is the person's agenda.. for being on a forum.. or for writing a commentary... or for making a Video.. or for declaring that the bible is "filled with errors".
When you discover their Denomination, or their Calvinism, of their Catholicism, .. or their "Mary Baker Eddy" relationship....
When you read a Translators "greek commentary".... ... what is their AGENDA, ? What is their Denomination... What is their root theology.
Its like this reader, and im not casting stones..
But, if you are a Mormon, a Catholic, a Christian Scientist, a Calvinist.... or any other man-made Theology Disciple, then you are OF that Purpose for being on This Forum, or any Forum.
Everyone here has their Agenda, and it's always going to be.. "what Calvin taught", or "what your denomination teaches"...
That's your Agenda, and that will focus your point of view, regarding the bible, as to BE any Theology, its because you were taught it..
That's why you are here..
You are here to argue your belief......and here is the issue.
Unless your Theology is based on Paul's Doctrine, ONLY , as He teaches it, then you have a problem.
And to solve it, is to see yourself......as then, you can get away from whatever it is, that is not Paul's Doctrine...
If you're a Catholic, then you are built on Peter and Mary and Water Baptism.
Paul Isn't.
And i can do that with every man made Theology.........like Calvinism, or Joseph Smith..
So, you dont need to have a tantrum...... what you have to do, is get out of all of that, and learn what Paul's Doctrine is.. and stay there.
"behold that is just your opinion"...
No, its not, as Paul told you to "be a follower of ME, as i follow Christ."
So, that excludes all other MEN, who have created "Theology" that you are believing...and teaching.......if im talking to you.
God bless you to see it, and no longer be that one.
And to get you started...
Understand that there are "no Denominations in Heaven".
God is not a Catholic.
God is not a Baptist
'God is not an Assembly of God.
God is not a Calvinist
God is not YOUR DENOMINATION, as it was created by a MAN.
All denominations are man made.
Christianity, the "church" is GOD made.
Are you a born again Christian?
Then here is your denomination...
"Bride of Christ"... "Temple of the Holy Spirit"..>"Heir of God".. "Joint Heir with Jesus"... "In Christ".. "one with God".
See those?
God made those, not MAN.
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Rella ~ I am a woman
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Behold,
I am in agreement with you but need to qualify what I mean by biblical errors.
I do not find any Passages with in the four corners of the Holy book to be in error... I do find man's inability to understand what is said/written to be the culprit.
But various translation can and do say a verse in such a certain way as to offer some the ability... right or wrong to see what is said in a different light.
Above I gave 3 examples of Day one and second day from the KJV, NASB95 and the Peshitta....
I am not an evolutionist nor am I a YEC person. Certain things that science (be it from God or the devil) makes me see the potential for not a 13 billion year old earth but one more then 6+ thousand years....
Most YEC people follow KJV to support their theory that everything came into being from the Spirit hovering over those waters to God setting a seventh day for rest.... that between those all came into being in 144 hours.
The myriad of times I have read the creation accounts... mostly from KJV before venturing elsewhere I began to see something... Am I right or wrong... IDK other then I am not so emphatic as to try and tell anyone I am right.
But there is one glaring error that King Jimmy's men wrote... ( if they found it from an older translation I do not know) but that is the use of Easter in the Jailors story.
That is what led me to start reading translations..and the older the better...
Thank you for hearing me...
Blessings
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