What Is "Predestination"? How Does It Shape Your Daily Life?

[Eternally Grateful]

You said we are Born dead in spirit...I said no we aren’t, we are born into darkness and sin..only when we are Born Again do we realise we were in darkness and sin..alienated from God.

Born dead in spirit does not mean we are born without a spirit. which you accused me of saying

After he brings our spirit Alive in His..do we understand this.how can you know you were in darkness and sin....before God makes you alive in your spirit with Christ?

Our sins must be forgiven by God..only after we have become Born Again do we understand this...he removes the burden of sin from our shoulders..we become as light as a feather...my opinion.

I disagree with you on this. But that is not why I have accused you of falsley accusing me..

 

[JBO]

It did..

Thats why we must be born again

So you were wrong when you said all mean all?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Do you seriously believe that God gave you a dead spirit?

I seriously believe God gave me a soul, spirit and body.

But my spirit was dead (seperated) from God. and because of this spiritual death, my dead spirit could only serve self The bible calls it the flesh

 

[Ritajanice]

Born dead in spirit does not mean we are born without a spirit. which you accused me of saying

I said no such thing ,prove it?

I disagree with you on this. But that is not why I have accused you of falsley accusing me..

 

[Eternally Grateful]

So you were wrong when you said all mean all?

In what part?

All were dead

And in christ can all be made alive..

 

[Ritajanice]

I seriously believe God gave me a soul, spirit and body.

But my spirit was dead (seperated) from God. and because of this spiritual death, my dead spirit could only serve self The bible calls it the flesh

That is not what you said at the beginning and I will find that post...unless you have deleted it..I will check.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I said no such thing ,prove it?

smh

I said this

I am physically alive, But I am at the same time spiritually dead.

And I will be until I am born again (if I was not already born again)

Its basic..

You responded by saying this

So...you are physically alive without a spirit?

How can anyone be physically alive without a spirit?

Can you PLEASE explain how spiritual death means without a spirit?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

That is not what you said at the beginning and I will find that post...unless you have deleted it..I will check.

I look forward to it. Would also love to see where I falsly accused you of anything

 

[Ritajanice]

Adam died th moment he sinned, At that moment we all (even though we had not been born yet) died also.

Explain yourself?

 

[Ritajanice]

smh

I said this

You responded by saying this

Can you PLEASE explain how spiritual death means without a spirit?

Can you please unravel this nonsensical question?

 

[Hazelelponi]

You said our spirit is dead...no it’s not...it’s not Alive with Christ..our spirit was in darkness and sin unknowingly.

You did not say spiritually dead..you said our spirit was dead.

As Christians our spirit is alive with Christ, but prior to coming to faith we were dead in Spirit.

Why dead? Because Christ is the life, Christ's Holy Spirit is the breath of life upon man. .

We are not alive in spirit prior to that because we are born under the curse... We have a spirit, we are a person and an individual...

But without Christ all men are dead in their sin and trespass because all are born under the curse.

That's all ..

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Explain yourself?

My spirit was born dead, separated from God.

But I have said this more times that I can imagine.. why you still do not get it is beyond me,, which is why I said earlier. I can not make you understand (what I believe)

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Can you please unravel this nonsensical question?

Nonsensical?

Spiritual death, does it equal NO SPIRIT?

when you body dies. is there still a body?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

As Christians our spirit is alive with Christ, but prior to coming to faith we were dead in Spirit.

Why dead? Because Christ is the life, Christ's Holy Spirit is the breath of life upon man. .

We are not alive in spirit prior to that because we are born under the curse... We have a spirit, we are a person and an individual...

But without Christ all men are dead in their sin and trespass because all are born under the curse.

That's all ..

AMEN

 

[Ritajanice]

My spirit was born dead, separated from God.

But I have said this more times that I can imagine.. why you still do not get it is beyond me,, which is why I said earlier. I can not make you understand (what I believe)

You never said that...now you say it was separated from God....I said that first..not you.scroll up you will find it.

 

[Ritajanice]

As Christians our spirit is alive with Christ, but prior to coming to faith we were dead in Spirit.

I’m not a Christian I’m Born Again?

Why dead? Because Christ is the life, Christ's Holy Spirit is the breath of life upon man. .

You do not know you are spiritually dead, not until you become Born Again?

We are not alive in spirit prior to that because we are born under the curse... We have a spirit, we are a person and an individual...

Where did I say any different?

But without Christ all men are dead in their sin and trespass because all are born under the curse.

That's all ..

And..you wouldn’t know this , not until your sins have been forgiven by God and removed...once you become Born Again...when our spirit is Born Again?

 

[Ritajanice]

Nonsensical?

Spiritual death, does it equal NO SPIRIT?

No it doesn’t...it means what God’s word says it means...we were spiritually dead and alienated from God...we still have a spirit, living ,breathing, unfortunately it’s in self and not with Christ as in Alive with Christ.

when you body dies. is there still a body?

I guess you need to ask yourself that nonsensical question ?

 

[Hazelelponi]

I’m not a Christian I’m Born Again?

Your not Christian?

 

[GracePeace]

Us wearing God/God wearing us .

If you think God does not "wear" us, despite my having shown you precedent for it in Scripture (from Jeremiah), again, I invite you to find an example of anything else on earth that performs acts that it itself is not performing (because Paul said "I was abundant in labors above them all, yet not I but the grace with me"). If you can't, then God wears us. Not sure why this would be controversial.

 

[Hazelelponi]

If you think God does not "wear" us, despite my having shown you precedent for it in Scripture (from Jeremiah), again, I invite you to find an example of anything else on earth that performs acts that it itself is not performing (because Paul said "I was abundant in labors above them all, yet not I but the grace with me"). If you can't, then God wears us. Not sure why this would be controversial.

Lol it wasn't.. it was just different wording. :)