Well, some interpret "foreknew" as "foreloved", but, actually, it's the "predestined" part that I'd (reasonsably, I think) consider "precipitative".
What Is "Predestination"? How Does It Shape Your Daily Life?
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Why do you want to label me either way??
If we believe in Jesus, If we receive Jesus, God gives us rebirth. Hopefully that will suffice.
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LOL I don't need to label you, I was just noting Monergist "types" seem to have no problem just straight forwardly answering this question, whereas Synergist "types" tend to be very defensive.
Some interpret in all sorts of ways.
But foreknow, proginosko, I think it's spelled, is to know, before. Pro, before, ginosko, I know. So that's what it means. To know something ahead of time.
Again, the "predestinated" in Romans 8 is used specifically concerning those predestinated not that they would come to faith, but that they become like Jesus, having been foreknown.
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But, in the Bible, "know" has other implications than mere "knowledge"--that's why they interpret it that way.
So, you would NOT say the reason you came faith was because you were predestined to it?
Are you referring to it being an idiom for sexual relations? Yes, we have idioms in our language also, and context shows what is being used.
I think it's pretty clear this isn't that.
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So, how do you interpret "predestined"? How do you divest it from your having been called and justified?
Well, God is "married" to His people--hence their interpretation of "foreknow" in that manner.
The effect of predestination in my life:
When I was 17, I was suicidal, and made several attempts, including slit wrists, the freight train, I think there was one I don't really remember, and then a 4X fatal drug overdose. I did not die. God wasn't going to allow it, because He knew that when I would be 19, I would be born again.
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When I was 17, I was suicidal, and made several attempts, including slit wrists, the freight train, I think there was one I don't really remember, and then a 4X fatal drug overdose. I did not die. God wasn't going to allow it, because He knew that when I would be 19, I would be born again.
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So, for you, predestine is about securing conditions that would inevitably lead to your justifying faith? How is that different?
Actually, the NT Christian is never never called the bride of Christ. We are compared to a bride in several places, but those are similies, all of them. Meanwhile, we are specifically told we are His bone, flesh of His flesh, bone of His bone. And again, we are called His body in several places.
Now, God was married to Israel, and will be again, but now we're back into that pesky dispensationalism.
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Does not effect my life in any way. Nor does it shape my life.
God predestined, people within the nation of Israel not to bow to baal. To me, there was a people who were predestined to be part of the destruction of the known world - which was Israel, and they would be raptured and taken out of it in that day in age, when Jesus was promised to be coming swiftly, and those who were waiting faithfully, watched and waited, and during their tribulation which they had experienced, they were taken out of it by seeing of the Lord, and the nation of Israel and the ones remaining suffered under God's wrath having put and end to material religion, and Israel as a nation by taking away the geneology, priesthoods, the temple and whatever else which of their time laid to waste in 70AD.
God predestined, people within the nation of Israel not to bow to baal. To me, there was a people who were predestined to be part of the destruction of the known world - which was Israel, and they would be raptured and taken out of it in that day in age, when Jesus was promised to be coming swiftly, and those who were waiting faithfully, watched and waited, and during their tribulation which they had experienced, they were taken out of it by seeing of the Lord, and the nation of Israel and the ones remaining suffered under God's wrath having put and end to material religion, and Israel as a nation by taking away the geneology, priesthoods, the temple and whatever else which of their time laid to waste in 70AD.
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