The Learner
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There is a hebrew word for G_d that is plural. Liberals take that to mean early on they believed in many gods.When was Biblical Judaism polytheistic?
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There is a hebrew word for G_d that is plural. Liberals take that to mean early on they believed in many gods.When was Biblical Judaism polytheistic?
Yes my friend . never sit at the table of a harlot , eat not of her dainties .JESUS never instituted transubstantiation.
NEWS FLASH - the wafer remains a wafer AND the wine/juice remains as wine/juice
NEWS FLASH - Idolatry can be corporate and individualistic and in this case it is BOTH
SALVATION TRUTH FLASH - Flee idolatry
See Eph 2:10 wife will kick me off soonLets hit the easiest one first.
Sola Fide (Faith Alone)
is important because it is one of the distinguishing characteristics or key points that separate the true biblical Gospel from false gospels. At stake is the very Gospel itself and it is therefore a matter of eternal life or death.
Getting the Gospel right is of such importance that the Apostle Paul wrote in Galatians 1:9 “As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!”
Paul was questioning on what basis is humanity declared by God to be justified?
Paul was wanting to know if it is by faith alone or by faith combined with works?
And in concluding Paul makes it clear in Galatians and Romans that humanity is “justified by faith in Christ and not by observing the law”
Lol: Wonder if Kamala studied him...? He tells us in Galatians 2:16 "nevertheless knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, so that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the Law; since by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified.
And I say from my studies the rest of the Bible agrees.
Now, you mentioned also Sola Scriptura (Scripture ALONE)
Fact of the matter is there are 5 Solas and deviating from one will lead to error in another essential doctrine, and the result will almost always be a false gospel which is powerless to save.
The essential Christian doctrines are represented by these five "Latin" phrases which accurately summarize the biblical teaching on these crucial subjects: sola scriptura (Scripture alone), sola fide (faith alone), sola gratia (grace alone), sola Christus (Christ alone), and sola Deo gloria (for the glory of God alone).
Now, since this has been primarily about faith alone, or faith with works I am only going to concentrait on Sola Fide...
This is a key point of difference between not only Protestants and Catholics but between biblical Christianity and almost all other religions and teachings.
The teaching that we are declared righteous by God (justified) on the basis of our faith alone and not by works is a key doctrine of the Bible and a line that divides most CULTS from biblical Christianity.
It is undeniable fact that most religions and cults teach people what works they must do to be saved HOWEVER the Bible teaches that we are not saved by works WE ARE SAVED by God’s grace through His gift of faith ... Ephesians 2: 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and [a]that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; 9 not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.
Do you not understand that biblical Christianity is distinct from every other religion in that it is centered on what God has accomplished through Christ’s finished work and all other religions are based on human achievement.
Fact..... If we abandon the doctrine of justification by faith, we abandon the only way of salvation.
Do you remember 2 Cor 5:21? He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.
What does this mean?.....that those that trust Christ Jesus for justification by faith alone are those that are imputed with His righteousness
Simply said ...Sola fide is the doctrine of justification by faith alone apart from works and is simply recognizing what is taught over and over in Scripture
I wont bore YOU with what the likes of Martin Luther or others you would never study
said on this but I will say That is why Paul so adamantly denounces those who taught law-keeping or other works of righteousness in Galatians 1:9 As we have said before, so I say again now, if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you received, he is to be accursed!
But maybe, just maybe you will believe Abraham. He believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness.
And know, then, that those who believe are children of Abraham. The Scripture foresaw that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, and announced the gospel in advance to Abraham:
'‘All nations will be blessed through you.’ So those who have faith are blessed along with Abraham, the man of faith. All who rely on observing the law are under a curse, for it is written: ‘Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.’ Clearly no one is justified before God by the law, because, ‘The righteous will live by faith’” Galatians 3:6-11View attachment 37360
There is a hebrew word for G_d that is plural. Liberals take that to mean early on they believed in many gods.
Yes, I think it was also used for false idol gods.i am assuming here so forgive me if i err = Do you know why the Hebrew word for God is 'Elohim' and is plural = as in 'Gods'?
CorrectYes, I think it was also used for false idol gods.
My catholic friend -
the "daily sacrifice" is NOT referring to Christ
Probably the same reason that temptation was used in james . in the book of jamesCorrect
But why did/does the Holy Spirit use the word Elohim(Plural/Gods) but it translates in laguage structure as singular 'G_d'???
Malaci 1:11Dear David,
Thank you, Thats a much better tone :)
I know that you love Jesus! I rejoice in that. How could I not? I love Him too and He loves both of us far more perfectly than we can possibly love each other..
What other 'pure offering' than the LIVING Lamb of God could possibly fulfill Malachi 1:11?
Indeed, truly is this prophecy fulfilled today, for even I as I type this somewhere the sacrifice is being offered and the Feast is being kept by our brothers and sisters..
Further, as a father, it is both my pleasure and my duty to offer the weekly (daily when i'm able) Lamb on behalf of my family in thanksgiving and praise for His many blessings and in reparation for our shortcomings..
And when each feast had run its course, Job would send for them and sanctify them, rising early and offering holocausts for every one of them. For Job said, "It may be that my sons have sinned and blasphemed God in their hearts." This Job did habitually.
Pax et Bonum
Specifically, 3 men are named as a reference to the ONE True Living G-d = Exodus chapter 3Probably the same reason that temptation was used in james . in the book of james
we can see it used as temptations of the flesh , sins , lusts etc
we also see it written in the sense of the word PERSEUTIONS too . I think it might be as simple as that .
In early modern english the word for temptation was often used also in place of trials .Correct
But why did/does the Holy Spirit use the word Elohim(Plural/Gods) but it translates in laguage structure as singular 'G_d'???
YES - Big Difference to temptation versus testing = "the testing of our faith"In early modern english the word for temptation was often used also in place of trials .
Folks can get confused at times .
for example when writing HE said GOD TEMPTS NO MAN .
When reading in genesis we will see where it says GOD tempted abraham .
BUT , take note . WHEN he said GOD tempts not man , HE MEANT LUSTS , temptations of the flesh etc .
WHEN GOD TESTED abraham or TRIED HIM , its also seen , but notice the difference .
GOD didnt tempt abraham up to the hill with ten thousand women or something the FLESH LOVETH
Rather it was a TEST , a TRIAL , something the FLESH DONT LOVE at all .
Yet many when reading the bible and trying to find fault and errors , SEE ONLY What they want to see .
GOD does not tempt us , HE does however TEST US through trials .
KEY DIFFERENCE . temptation cometh of the flesh , its lusts .
The trials , THEY COME to test us and the flesh wont embrace it . BUT THE LAMBS SHALL ENDURE it .
I wrote that to also show us something . ALL these so called errors FOLKS TRY and ACCUSE the bible of having ,YES - Big Difference to temptation versus testing = "the testing of our faith"
Yes indeed my friend . WHY DOES GOD TEST US , WHY DOES HE TRY US , FOR OUR OWN GOOD .YES - Big Difference to temptation versus testing = "the testing of our faith"
See. Just proves that even back then they could not agree.See Eph 2:10 wife will kick me off soon
The LORD appeared to Abraham by the terebinth of Mamre, as he sat in the entrance of his tent, while the day was growing hot.Specifically, 3 men are named as a reference to the ONE True Living G-d = Exodus chapter 3
here is no sacrifice mentioned here EXCEPT the sacrifice of our lips offering True Praise from our Redeemed Hearts unto Christ.
No fear here as the Blood of Christ covers me and His Grace sustains me and His Holy Spirit Fills me.Can our Praise and Thanksgiving be pure unless it be united with the ONE sacrifice of Christ?
You may have learned to fear us, but I assure you that is what we do.. Indeed the very meaning of Eucharist is 'thanksgiving'
And I rejoice that you give thanksgiving and praise to our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ!
Pax et Bonum
Well, thanks for trying – but you didn’t prove that Scripture is our “SOLE” Authority from the Scriptures themselves.Lets hit the easiest one first.
Sola Fide (Faith Alone)
is important because it is one of the distinguishing characteristics or key points that separate the true biblical Gospel from false gospels. At stake is the very Gospel itself and it is therefore a matter of eternal life or death.
Getting the Gospel right is of such importance that the Apostle Paul wrote in Galatians 1:9 “As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!”
Paul was questioning on what basis is humanity declared by God to be justified?
Paul was wanting to know if it is by faith alone or by faith combined with works?
And in concluding Paul makes it clear in Galatians and Romans that humanity is “justified by faith in Christ and not by observing the law”
Lol: Wonder if Kamala studied him...? He tells us in Galatians 2:16 "nevertheless knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, so that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the Law; since by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified.
And I say from my studies the rest of the Bible agrees.
Now, you mentioned also Sola Scriptura (Scripture ALONE)
Fact of the matter is there are 5 Solas and deviating from one will lead to error in another essential doctrine, and the result will almost always be a false gospel which is powerless to save.
The essential Christian doctrines are represented by these five "Latin" phrases which accurately summarize the biblical teaching on these crucial subjects: sola scriptura (Scripture alone), sola fide (faith alone), sola gratia (grace alone), sola Christus (Christ alone), and sola Deo gloria (for the glory of God alone).
Now, since this has been primarily about faith alone, or faith with works I am only going to concentrait on Sola Fide...
This is a key point of difference between not only Protestants and Catholics but between biblical Christianity and almost all other religions and teachings.
The teaching that we are declared righteous by God (justified) on the basis of our faith alone and not by works is a key doctrine of the Bible and a line that divides most CULTS from biblical Christianity.
It is undeniable fact that most religions and cults teach people what works they must do to be saved HOWEVER the Bible teaches that we are not saved by works WE ARE SAVED by God’s grace through His gift of faith ... Ephesians 2: 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and [a]that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; 9 not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.
Do you not understand that biblical Christianity is distinct from every other religion in that it is centered on what God has accomplished through Christ’s finished work and all other religions are based on human achievement.
Fact..... If we abandon the doctrine of justification by faith, we abandon the only way of salvation.
Do you remember 2 Cor 5:21? He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.
What does this mean?.....that those that trust Christ Jesus for justification by faith alone are those that are imputed with His righteousness
Simply said ...Sola fide is the doctrine of justification by faith alone apart from works and is simply recognizing what is taught over and over in Scripture
I wont bore YOU with what the likes of Martin Luther or others you would never study
said on this but I will say That is why Paul so adamantly denounces those who taught law-keeping or other works of righteousness in Galatians 1:9 As we have said before, so I say again now, if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you received, he is to be accursed!
But maybe, just maybe you will believe Abraham. He believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness.
And know, then, that those who believe are children of Abraham. The Scripture foresaw that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, and announced the gospel in advance to Abraham:
'‘All nations will be blessed through you.’ So those who have faith are blessed along with Abraham, the man of faith. All who rely on observing the law are under a curse, for it is written: ‘Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.’ Clearly no one is justified before God by the law, because, ‘The righteous will live by faith’” Galatians 3:6-11View attachment 37360