Having a hard time with that Mark 13:24-27 Scripture I see. The reason you're having difficulty understanding that Scripture must be because you don't really understand the 1 Thessalonians 4:17 Scripture either.
Pre-Trib Rapture Danger To Your Soul
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So, every unsaved soul on earth ends of being taken to the feast of birds per Rev 19, along with the antichrist and his armies?
Billions of folks eaten by birds around the earth or in a certain location?
26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.....
There are saints in heaven before the return of Christ per Rev 19, correct?
There are afterward, souls that must be resurrected from earth in Rev 20, correct?
Now you know who precedes who.
This concludes the rapture per 2 parts(gathering of the beheaded with the previously taken saints)...
...5 ....This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection:...
So you still refuse to heed Christ's warning of Luke 17:37 against being the first one TAKEN?
Why would you want to be like a dead "carcase" to wheresoever the fowls are gathered together?
Your FORGOT to include the Mark 13:24-25 verses that go with those 26-27 verses.
Mark 13:24-26
24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,
25 And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.
26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
KJV
Did you not see that timing Jesus gave there for those events, "But in those days, after that tribulation"?
That sets when Jesus' future coming is.
That also sets when the "caught up" event of 1 Thessalonians 4:17 will happen, the gathering of Christ's faithful... Church.
There are saints that have DIED that are with Jesus in spirit in Heaven now. Didn't you read in 1 Peter 3 & 4 how Jesus went to the "spirits in prison" and preached The Gospel to them? and per 1 Peter 4 how The Gospel was preached to the dead so that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit? That event was actually prophecy from Isaiah 42:7 about Jesus leading the prisoners out of the darkness of Satan's pit prison house at Jesus' resurrection.
Hasn't your pre-trib pastors taught you about that? or about 2 Corinthians 5 where Apostle Paul showed that if our flesh body were dissolved, we have another body from God not made with hands (i.e., non-flesh), eternal in the heavens, and that to be absent from the body is to be present with The LORD? Have you not read that either brother?
ABOUT Rev.19.
I well know what the Pre-trib Rapture preachers say about that chapter, wrongly messin' up its timelines.
The Revelation 19:1-9 verses are for AFTER Jesus has returned... and is reigning over the nations, literally, on earth. THAT... is when that marriage supper is held, and NOT BEFORE His rod of iron rule over the nations of Rev.20.
Revelation 19:10 is at Apostle's John's time, with the angel speaking to John.
Revelation 19:11-21 is about Christ's future return at the end of the tribulation, upon a white horse with His army to do battle on earth against His enemies, and take reign literally over all peoples and nations on earth. Lord Jesus at that time of the end will gather both His saints that have died, which are resurrected and He brings them with Him from Heaven (the Matthew 24:31 version of 1 Thess.4:16), and He gathers the alive saints on earth then too (the Mark 13:27 version of 1 Thess.4:17). Then they all go with Him to Jerusalem upon the Mount of Olives where He ascended to Heaven from per Acts 1, and there He and His elect saints begin the "thousand years" reign of Rev.20, and THAT is when the 'marriage supper' takes place.
That is when the casting to the "outer darkness" is also, not before Jesus returns, but AFTER His return...
Matt 8:11-12
11 And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven.
12 But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
KJV
Revelation 22:14-15 reveals a picture of that "outer darkness" event, with the wicked who are outside the gates of the holy city, while those who followed Christ have right inside the gates to the Tree of Life. The Ezekiel 47 chapter reveals the return to earth of God's River of Gen.2 and the Tree of Life during the time of Christ's future "thousand years" reign.
AFTER the GT, the saints that are in heaven already at the marriage supper are UNITED with the resurrected, beheaded saints.
I think you want to be beheaded to be resurrected, correct?
I want to be at the marriage supper DURING the GT when the antichrist is still amassing his armies, then return to earth with Christ to feed his armies to birds.
You seem to believe that the birds will eat all sinners. leaving nobody left on earth to be reigned over for 1000 years.
The beheaded saints are disembodied until their part of the first resurrection is complete per Rev 20.
The saints already have new bodies in heaven during the marriage supper, hosted by Jesus during the GT in heaven, per Rev 19.
The saints in their new bodies will be seen by all as they return with Christ to earth to judge it.
Then they will be united with the beheaded saints, whom will get new resurrected bodies.
This is(marks the end of) the first resurrection.
Davy wants to wait until after the return of Christ, getting no invitation to the marriage supper.
Not smart.
The saints already have new bodies in heaven during the marriage supper, hosted by Jesus during the GT in heaven, per Rev 19.
The saints in their new bodies will be seen by all as they return with Christ to earth to judge it.
Then they will be united with the beheaded saints, whom will get new resurrected bodies.
This is(marks the end of) the first resurrection.
Davy wants to wait until after the return of Christ, getting no invitation to the marriage supper.
Not smart.
So you still refuse Christ's answer in Luke 17:37 against being the 1st one TAKEN?
Luke 17:35-37
35 There will be two women grinding together. One will be taken and the other left.”
37 And they said to Him, “Where, Lord?” He said to them, “Where the corpse is, there the vultures will gather.”
ESV
Matt 24:28
28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
KJV
So every sinner alive(billions of them) will be taken from work and from bed to be eaten by vultures at Migeddo, then to hell?
Who will Jesus save then at His return?
The saved?
I don't see vultures here at the judgement of the living nations....
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
Stick to the simplicity of The Word of God, not doctrines of men.
If your mind cannot handle the simple answer Jesus Himself gave below about those TAKEN, then I certainly cannot help you.
Luke 17:35-37
35 There will be two women grinding together. One will be taken and the other left.”
37 And they said to Him, “Where, Lord?” He said to them, “Where the corpse is, there the vultures will gather.”
ESV
Matt 24:28
28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
KJV
Eagles are not vultures.
Now, are eagles going to eat billions of sinners from all over the planet, including all the non Christian societies?
Will any sinners be left to inhabit the earth during the Millennial reign?
Or, is the bird feast exclusively for the armies of the antichrist?
If someone says sinner folks are taken from work and bed straight to hell, it makes more sense than taken to a bird feast, then hell.
Never heard folks say they become bird seed then fire starter.
Only online....
Never heard folks say they become bird seed then fire starter.
Only online....
Go learn what the idea of 'metaphor' means, and then maybe there will be a whole lot of God's Word opened up to you. I don't have time to teach you what you should have learned in school.
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