Jesus has devised more than one way to bring people to him
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1Jn 2:20 But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.
1Jn 2:21 I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.
1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1Jn 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
1Jn 2:24 Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.
1Jn 2:25 And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.
1Jn 2:26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.
1Jn 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
Shalom brother.
J.
amigo de christo
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All glory to our Lord Jesus my brother.
J.
Lake of Fire??????So He's gonna burn them till they give in?? Where have I seen that before?
It didn't work on the Reformers.
amigo de christo
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amigo de christo
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Correct doctrine is good and excellent also - but what's more important to God?
Think about it.
Eventually, ALL will seek Jesus and when ALL the sheep are collected the kingdom will be given to God.
amigo de christo
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Actually it says DESTROY THEM . Patrick .......................yoo hoo , its me again .
With the SAME reminder . LETS NOT BE ADDING TOO or TAKING FROM that book my friend .
NEVER SAYS THEY GET REFINED and later released in REVELATION . IT SAYS DESTROYED , TORMENTED .
Enough with this we are one religious salvation that cannot save one singel soul .
JESUS didnt preach universal salvation . HE PREACHED SALVATION in HE ALONE AND ONE MUST BELIEVE IN ORDER TO
BE SAVED . NOW i suggest WE DO the same . YOU , ME nor anyone else is GREATER THAN JESUS
What HE SAID and what HE TAUGHT , WE NEED TO ONLY LIVE IT AND REPEAT IT .
My understanding is that Mary is the earthly, biological, mother of Jesus. However, Jesus preceded Mary and so she is NOT "the mother of God". She was a servant of God and a vessel.
So He is going to force them into belief? So man has no free will, ultimately.
amigo de christo
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There is a real simple solution to all of this .
Let us go and read the book of revelation .
See what it says about the lake of fire . and then let no man , woman or child add too or take from that .
The lake of fire i see in revelation is a place for all who denied Christ , who lived in wickedness , loved a lie .
Now about the lake of fire it never says REFINED , it never applies even the idea
they suffer for a while and then are eventually released back to GOD .
THUS my advice is this . Let no man , woman or child , ADD too or take from the book of revelation .
Cause i happen to know what happens to those who do so . Now have a blessed day my dear friend .
Dont heed that man one bit . let us simply learn the bible for ourselves . THE LORD is with the lambs .
For the people of the flood that hadn't heard of Jesus or the plan of salvation, Jesus visited them in spirit prison to preach to them. So it would appear there is some truth to the idea that salvation can come for some after death. But I have little hope for those that reject God.
amigo de christo
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READ the book of revelation . THAT IS HOW ITS USED . THEN DONT ADD TO ORTAKE FROM that book .
Cause you might want to READ near the end the message given about those who so such a thing . AND DO REMEMBER
GOD cannot lie . SURE hate to see you have to visist that place cause you were ADDING TO that book .
PREACH JESUS CHRIST and stop with all else .
I got good news . I KNOW FOR A FACT , A TOTAL FACT that if one believes in CHRIST they wont have to go to no lake of fire .
I ALSO know those who reject HIM , who deny the gospel , THEY WILL GO THERE .
SO how about we just PREACH JESUS and stop trying to add to or take from THAT BOOK
in order to fit an idea SOME THINK THEY HAVE AND BELIEVE IN . PREACH IT , LIKE THE BOOK SAYS IT and leave
the rest ALONE .
amigo de christo
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NOT IF THEY DENIED THE GOSPEL . If anyone heard the gospel and rejected that truth . TOO LATE .
Now as far as those who never heard , THAT IS UP TO GOD and HE ALONE on what HE will do .
But it seems to me by reading the words of JESUS , that he said HE WONT EVEN RETURN
TILL THE GOSPEL was preached TO all nations . AND most folks have heard it and rejected it .
You would be amazed at the QUCK INFO we have over the internet these days .
MOST FOLKS have heard it and said NOT FOR ME. THOSE WILL BE DAMNED BIG TIME .
LEST , lest of course they repent before they die .
I don't know the particulars of the process. The Bible doesn't delve into those details. We have limited free will, not total free will. Just ask Jonah. :)
It's God's WILL that NONE be lost. Do you believe that anyone can ultimately and forever prevent God's will from happening?
John 6:39 And this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has given me, but raise it up on the last day.
Very restricting. But we're not God amigo. God loves his children and wants them to come around.
You're denying the fact that Jesus even visited spirit prison. And just why would he do that amigo? Why even visit?
You make a lot of claims in your post without any evidence. Not even a scriptural reference.
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