Does God love burning people in hell?

[MatthewG]

Is God who elected those who he would save, disregarding everyone else, and send them to be burning and screaming and literal flames?

Is he loving for doing so; ?


just to notice hell/ and lake of fire are two differing things.

 

[Windmill Charge]

Is God who elected those who he would save, disregarding everyone else, and send them to be burning and screaming and literal flames?

Is he loving for doing so; ?


just to notice hell/ and lake of fire are two differing things.

A far more important question than the emotional rants about is God Loving, is to ask is God Just and is he Holy.

What is the effect upon God of a live life to hate all that God represents and is God just to permit someone to spend eternity as they spent their life, without God.

Remember he'll is where there is no trace of God or of his goodness, all there is are those things that we read cannot be found in God's presence.

 

[MatthewG]

Would he be just and holy?
Did a righteous God have people murdered? Husband, wife, children?

 

[MatthewG]

God is a righteous and good judge that burns human beings forever in a pit of fire to burn alive forever until they are dead?

 

[MatthewG]

What do you want to really say?

 

[Brakelite]

What do you want to really say?

KJV 2 Thessalonians 1:7-9
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

 

[MatthewG]

Age during destruction only last for a time @Brakelite many disregard, more archaic translations.

That verse is not as scary as you may think it is or believe that it is their destruction was age steering and who is on display in 70 A.D.

 

[MatthewG]

@Brakelite

“Grace to you, and peace, from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ! We ought to give thanks to God always for you, brethren, as it is meet, because increase greatly doth your faith, and abound doth the love of each one of you all, to one another; so that we ourselves do glory in you in the assemblies of God, for your endurance and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that ye bear; a token of the righteous judgment of God, for your being counted worthy of the reign of God, for which also ye suffer, since [it is] a righteous thing with God to give back to those troubling you — trouble, and to you who are troubled — rest with us in the revelation of the Lord Jesus from heaven, with messengers of his power, in flaming fire, giving vengeance to those not knowing God, and to those not obeying the good news of our Lord Jesus Christ; who shall suffer justice — destruction age-during — from the face of the Lord, and from the glory of his strength,”
‭‭2 Thessalonians‬ ‭1‬:‭2‬-‭9‬ ‭YLT98‬‬

2 Thessalonians 1:9 who shall suffer justice — destruction age-during — from the face of the Lord, and from the glory of his strength | Young's Literal Translation 1898 (YLT98) | Download The Bible App Now

who shall suffer justice — destruction age-during — from the face of the Lord, and from the glory of his strength

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Oh this is the address to who? The people in Thessalonica and what is Paul talking about those who are going to be destroyed? Those who do not believe those who did not receive Jesus Christ to know him to be saved from the wrath of god that would fall upon the nation.

This is what makes sense to me. It may not make sense to you, but none of this was addressed to you. It was addressed to another group of people in another time.

 

[MatthewG]

There are people out there, who may not admit it, but they want to be right there alongside God to watch people be judged and placed in the lake of fire into Glory and revel in that enjoyment of watching them go into the fire, is really strange, is really weird but people are strange and people are weird with what they believe.

And I’m not judging nobody you believe whatever you want you can believe God is a woman with a blue hair.

God speed.

 

[Lambano]

And I’m not judging nobody you believe whatever you want you can believe God is a woman with a blue hair.

That old joke:

"When I had the heart attack, I had a near-death experience and I saw God."

"Wow! What did you see?"

"Well, She's Black..."

William Young wrote The Shack playing off that old joke. But I remember well this line from God to the main character: "This visit is not about reinforcing your preconceptions about Me."

 

[Lambano]

There are people out there, who may not admit it, but they want to be right there alongside God to watch people be judged and placed in the lake of fire into Glory and revel in that enjoyment of watching them go into the fire, is really strange, is really weird but people are strange and people are weird with what they believe.

The attitude of some of our brothers and sisters seems to be, "Well, as long as I'm saved, who gives a damn about those other people?" Unless it's someone (besides themselves) that they love...

 

[Raccoon1010]

People get to choose if they are going to hell by living a rotten life of hurting people.

 

[Raccoon1010]

I should also say Satan and his angels also probably live rotten lives of trying to get people hurt. There must be a universe prison for such persons. Where they can't hurt others anymore.

 

[MatthewG]

The attitude of some of our brothers and sisters seems to be, "Well, as long as I'm saved, who gives a damn about those other people?" Unless it's someone (besides themselves) that they love...

Idk, but I know sometimes it seems like I am an asshole but I’m just trying to really relay back to people what I believe is right and true; and still get looked at as crazy, and non good child of the devil.

Now I’m not playing victim here it’s just what is happening.


No one believes what John the beloved said about inside and outside of the kingdom it seems.

Lost in a daze and haze man….

It’s really obtrusive to share the truth only to get kicked around (but maybe I kick them around not meaning to).


Everyone is allowed to believe what they want, aren’t they? And aren’t we suppose to love the Calvinist?

 

[MatthewG]

That old joke:

"When I had the heart attack, I had a near-death experience and I saw God."

"Wow! What did you see?"

"Well, She's Black..."

William Young wrote The Shack playing off that old joke. But I remember well this line from God to the main character: "This visit is not about reinforcing your preconceptions about Me."

Even a meth head who is on ice skate juggling on the frozen lake, who confesses they have faith; what can one truly say.

Can they say, No he he did not never seeing the faith extended to God in their lifetime?

It is about God, and his ways are so much more powerful to recognize than our own ways I believe. It’s really a shame but I love those who believe God is a God who loves burning people up in hell and raised them up again just to kill then again.

But that God I don’t understand how a person would worship a God like that. But my hats are off and my hands are up my friend.

 

[MatthewG]

People get to choose if they are going to hell by living a rotten life of hurting people.

Hey Devin, you understand everyone in the old testament’s went to hell? Even Jesus went to hell too, dying on the cross. Did you know that?

 

[Raccoon1010]

Hey Devin, you understand everyone in the old testament’s went to hell? Even Jesus went to hell too, dying on the cross. Did you know that?

That doesn't sound correct MatthewG. Moses and Elijah are seen talking with Jesus before he freed the spirits from Prison. It was the people in the flood that went to hell. They were a violent people which is why they were destroyed.

Read this again please:

1 Peter 3:19 by whom also He went and preached to the spirits in prison, 20 who formerly were disobedient, when once the Divine longsuffering waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight souls, were saved through water. 21 There is also an antitype which now saves us—baptism (not the removal of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God), through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,

 

[MatthewG]

That was a vision they were having.

You mention Moses and Elijah, as a counter to them not going to hell.

Matthew 17:9 As they were coming down the mountain, Jesus commanded them, “Do not tell anyone about this vision until the Son of Man has been raised from the dead.”

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Where did people go to when they died then if they did not go to hell / the realm of the dead, @dev553344? Where was Abraham, Jacob, and Isaac?

 

[Raccoon1010]

That was a vision they were having.

You mention Moses and Elijah, as a counter to them not going to hell.

Matthew 17:9 As they were coming down the mountain, Jesus commanded them, “Do not tell anyone about this vision until the Son of Man has been raised from the dead.”

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Where did people go to when they died then if they did not go to hell / the realm of the dead, @dev553344? Where was Abraham, Jacob, and Isaac?

The parable of the Rich man and Lazarus indicates people either go to a place like heaven or they go to hell depending on how they lived their lives. The rich man didn't help Lazarus and ended up in hell. Lazarus suffered his life and ended up in heaven.

Do you believe the bible MatthewG? It doesn't sound like it.

 

[MatthewG]

The parable of the Rich man and Lazarus indicates people either go to a place like heaven or they go to hell depending on how they lived their lives. The rich man didn't help Lazarus and ended up in hell. Lazarus suffered his life and ended up in heaven.

Do you believe the bible MatthewG? It doesn't sound like it.

That’s wrong too. The whole realm of the dead is founded in the Parable of Rich man and Lazarus.

It’s not if I believe the Bible or not; it’s how I have come to understand it.