The Two Witnesses Will Appear in the Next New Moon

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But let's take a step back.

How about you explain how it is that Jesus ties back to King David, Abraham and Adam without a natural father?
Rev. 5:5 "But one of the elders said to me, Do not weep. Behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has prevailed to open the scroll and to loose its seven seals.”

Mary’s lineage, as recorded by Luke, does not mention Mary, but that’s to be expected—including women’s names in genealogies was not standard practice. It begins this way: “[Jesus] was the son, so it was thought, of Joseph, the son of Heli” (Luke 3:23). This comment affirms the truth of Jesus’ virgin birth (see Luke 1:29–38). Joseph was a “son” of Heli by virtue of his marriage to Mary, who would have been the daughter of Heli (Matthew 1:16 lists Joseph’s biological father as Jacob).

Some notable points in Mary’s lineage are that she was a descendant of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob (Luke 3:34); she was specifically of the tribe of Judah (verse 33). She was also a descendant of Boaz (verse 32) and David (verse 31). Significantly, Luke traces Mary’s lineage all the way back to Adam (verse 38). This fits with Luke’s purpose as he wrote to Gentiles and emphasized that Jesus is the Son of God who came to save all people ( Luke 2:10–11).
See also Hebrews 7:14
 
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Rev. 5:5 "But one of the elders said to me, Do not weep. Behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has prevailed to open the scroll and to loose its seven seals.”

Mary’s lineage, as recorded by Luke, does not mention Mary, but that’s to be expected—including women’s names in genealogies was not standard practice. It begins this way: “[Jesus] was the son, so it was thought, of Joseph, the son of Heli” (Luke 3:23). This comment affirms the truth of Jesus’ virgin birth (see Luke 1:29–38). Joseph was a “son” of Heli by virtue of his marriage to Mary, who would have been the daughter of Heli (Matthew 1:16 lists Joseph’s biological father as Jacob).

Some notable points in Mary’s lineage are that she was a descendant of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob (Luke 3:34); she was specifically of the tribe of Judah (verse 33). She was also a descendant of Boaz (verse 32) and David (verse 31). Significantly, Luke traces Mary’s lineage all the way back to Adam (verse 38). This fits with Luke’s purpose as he wrote to Gentiles and emphasized that Jesus is the Son of God who came to save all people ( Luke 2:10–11).
See also Hebrews 7:14

Does the promised one come through David and Bathsheba's son Solomon, or their son Nathan?

You can't use the lineage of the mother, as the royal lineage. That's not how it works. Father- to- son. Nothing else. Otherwise you 'inherit' Moabites, for example- like Ruth who appear in the genealogical record, but present no barrier to the bloodline of David because it's strictly patrilineal. Father to son.
 

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Does the promised one come through David and Bathsheba's son Solomon, or their son Nathan?

You can't use the lineage of the mother, as the royal lineage. That's not how it works. Father- to- son. Nothing else. Otherwise you 'inherit' Moabites, for example- like Ruth who appear in the genealogical record, but present no barrier to the bloodline of David because it's strictly patrilineal. Father to son.
Luke 3:31-32 "the son of Melea, the son of Menan, the son of Mattathah, the son of Nathan, the son of David, 32 the son of Jesse, the son of Obed, the son of Boaz, ..."
The Virgin Birth is foundational. Mary became pregnant before Joseph knew about it miraculously by the Holy Spirit and so that Joseph would not see this as betrayal, an act of fornication with another man, an angel spoke to him in a dream and straightened him out.
Did you miss that part?
 

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We are now in the final new moon before the two witnesses of Revelation appear. They will appear in the next new moon, the one of Nisan. They will appear in the full moon of Nisan, on the 15th day of Nisan. Which will be in April, in Holy Week. And they will prophesy for 1,260 days until Tishri 6 in the year 2026, and will then be assassinated by the newly formed United States of Europe. The will be the last martyrs in the kingdom of God. There are now 44 days until they appear. The world is not aware they are about to appear, nor do they know about the year 6,000 and that almost 3 and 1/2 years are now left until the beginning of the millennial shabbath, which is the time of the return of Yeshua. So their appearance will come as a shock and horror to the world. And the world will hate them, just as the sons of Israel hated the prophets that appeared to them in antiquity. Even many christians and catholics will hate them also, because their message will include obedience to the Torah of Moses and getting rid of money. Paper money and fiat currency are the true mark of the beast of Revelation, and anyone who has accepted this form of money will be condemned, unless they renounce money once and for all. Gold and silver are the true money of God. And all central banks of the world trace back to one bank, the Vatican Bank, in Vatican City, in Rome. Which is why Vatican City is the true prostitute of Babylon in the book of Revelation, seated in Rome. And the Roman popes are the true antichrist of the scriptures, deceiving the entire world, and also ruling over the entire world clandestinely through central banks and money. The two witnesses will be given authority over the entire earth, to strike the world with as many plagues as they desire. They will also shut the sky so that it ceases to rain all over the world, for 3 and 1/2 years. The nations will seek to kill them, but and anyone who tries to harm them will be incinerated with fire. They will be unstoppable. They will serve as the last warning to the world. But the world will not understand. They will be dressed in sackcloth, and will appear in two different cities in the world. They will also destroy the Dome of the Rock, by the power of God, and through them the third temple will be reconstructed on Mount Moriah in Jerusalem. Jerusalem will become a very heavy stone to the entire world, and in 2026 the nations of the earth will also come to wage war against her. Russia and Iran will also invade the land of Israel. But Yeshua and his armies of angels will fight and defend Jerusalem.

And another one bites the dust!!!! Will you give up this foolish quest of date setting and instead live unto the Lord? A wise preachewr once told me, Live like the Lord is coming back tonight and pray like it would take HIm 1000 years to get here. We do that, we will be too busy to veer off the path and try to figure out what is in the Fathers hands alone.
 
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And another one bites the dust!!!! Will you give up this foolish quest of date setting and instead live unto the Lord? A wise preachewr once told me, Live like the Lord is coming back tonight and pray like it would take HIm 1000 years to get here. We do that, we will be too busy to veer off the path and try to figure out what is in the Fathers hands alone.

Except none of you are actually "living for the lord", because living for the lord involves obeying the commands of God in the Torah of Moses and getting rid of all fiat currency. If Yeshua were to return tomorrow, all of you would be captured by his armies of angels, and judged, and thrown over lava like garbage, because you have not obeyed. The scriptures and the ancient texts tell us that Yeshua returns in the year 6,000, and the prophet Hosea confirms that he returns after 2,000 years from his first coming, because that is the year 6,000. This isn't a new teaching from me. The 2,000 years are almost up. I am not a prophet. I am merely a studious man knowing the timelines of the scriptures, like the wise men that knew the timing of the first coming of Yeshua.
 
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Except none of you are actually "living for the lord", because living for the lord involves obeying the commands of God in the Torah of Moses and getting rid of all fiat currency. If Yeshua were to return tomorrow, all of you would be captured by his armies of angels, and judged, and thrown over lava like garbage, because you have not obeyed. The scriptures and the ancient texts tell us that Yeshua returns in the year 6,000, and the prophet Hosea confirms that he returns after 2,000 years from his first coming, because that is the year 6,000. This isn't a new teaching from me. The 2,000 years are almost up. I am not a prophet. I am merely a studious man knowing the timelines of the scriptures, like the wise men that knew the timing of the first coming of Yeshua.

Well, from my studying of the scriptures, I do not come to the same conclusion that Jesus will be judging mankind in our near future.

Hosea 6:1-3 concerns the visitation of the Iniquities of the fathers upon their children and the children's children in the third and the fourth age/generation. (Exodus 20:4-6.) Then in their fifth Age/generation they will serve the Lord in the age that is still to come when they make like new again the Kingdom of Priests, a Holy Nation and God's possession among the nations covenant which they initially entered into at Mt Sinai but within seven weeks they had rebelled against while Moses was up on the Mountain with God.

You state that you are not a prophet, and I would agree with you, yet you claim that you are a studious man who knows the timelines of scriptures and you compare yourself with the wise men who come to worship Christ at the time of His birth, who knew the timing of Christ's first advent, yet your wisdom is lacking and your understanding is lacking about the Prophecies that are associated with the End Times. Previously I explained how you can establish the time between Adam's creation and the time of the final judgement, but it seems that you have ignored the information that I presented in that post.

The tone of your post was to condemn the saints on this forum for their apparent ignorance, from your perspective, but what I demonstrated was your lack of willingness to learn from those on this forum who do indeed have an understanding of God's prophetic plans for the End Times.

The time when the two witness will appear is still over 1,000-years into our distant future and will not happen until after the Bottomless Pit is unlocked and the judged wicked heavenly hosts are able to leave the Bottomless pit in a last ditched attempt to upsurge God and His Plans for the Saints who love and worship God.

If you are as studious as you claim, then what I have posted above will begin to start making sense for you.

May the Lord continue to draw you into His understanding of the End Times.

Shalom
 
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Except none of you are actually "living for the lord", because living for the lord involves obeying the commands of God in the Torah of Moses and getting rid of all fiat currency.
Christianity 101 teaches us that we are not under the LAW. WE ARE UNDER GRACE.
Jesus fulfilled the requirements of the Law for us.
It is the inner man, his heart, and character that God works on. The old selve died. Sins, past , present and future have been washed away.
If Yeshua were to return tomorrow, all of you would be captured by his armies of angels, and judged, and thrown over lava like garbage, because you have not obeyed
Humility, fruit of the Spirit, are identifying traits of the Christian. I can't find that in your attacks.
You were wrong and did not take it well, so you attack all of us whom you are suppose to love. We are not your enemies. But btw, you are told to love them too.
You must be born again to enter into the Kingdom of Heaven. It is a spiritual transformation. So we won't be taking any fiat money with us ... or anything else.
Actually I might add, all your preparations for this event, to secure your safety are futile. Our security is in Christ, not in bunkers with 3 1/2 years of food for our selves. With your big mouth, everyone around you knows what you have and they will come and take it all from you and likely kill you too. You likely have guns to protect you. Columbia has the drug cartels too, do you think you can handle them?
Besides, it is not our physical lives that we should be fearful of losing or fanatic about preserving. I often say if an Asteroid comes to start it off, let it hit me. I WOULD PREFER NOT TO HAVE TO ENDURE THROUGH THE GREAT TRIBULATION, although I believe we will have to go through most of it. It would be wonderful if the Pre-Tribbers were right, but I have my doubts.
The scriptures and the ancient texts tell us that Yeshua returns in the year 6,000, and the prophet Hosea confirms that he returns after 2,000 years from his first coming, because that is the year 6,000
I am a YEC, so I do believe we are close to this time. You were just off on your calculations. Live with it. I have been anticipating His imminent return for 30 years and haven't lost any yearning for that. It has grown and become more real recently with the world falling apart, the USA especially, pandemic, wars, frequency of quakes, etc.
Since Matthew 24:14 is pretty much fulfilled, I think it's a matter of months, before we see the Beast ( ten Islamic nations) attack Israel. The war will reveal the Antichrist . Russia and China are involved too. Russia had been behind a nuclear Iran for decades and now they likely have nukes. The Witnesses will come when this erupts but the exact day, no one knows. It could happen on a Jewish holiday? That would catch them off guard.
 
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Well, from my studying of the scriptures, I do not come to the same conclusion that Jesus will be judging mankind in our near future.

Hosea 6:1-3 concerns the visitation of the Iniquities of the fathers upon their children and the children's children in the third and the fourth age/generation. (Exodus 20:4-6.) Then in their fifth Age/generation they will serve the Lord in the age that is still to come when they make like new again the Kingdom of Priests, a Holy Nation and God's possession among the nations covenant which they initially entered into at Mt Sinai but within seven weeks they had rebelled against while Moses was up on the Mountain with God.

You state that you are not a prophet, and I would agree with you, yet you claim that you are a studious man who knows the timelines of scriptures and you compare yourself with the wise men who come to worship Christ at the time of His birth, who knew the timing of Chrost's first advent, yet your wisdom is lacking and your understanding is lacking about the Prophecies that are associated with the End Times. Previously I explained how you can establish the time between Adam's creation and the time of the final judgement, but it seems that you have ignored the information that I presented in that post.

The tone of your post was to condemn the saints on this forum for their apparent ignorance, from your perspective, but what I demonstrated was your lack of willingness to learn from those on this forum who do indeed have an understanding of God's prophetic plans for the End Times.

The time when the two witness will appear is still over 1,000-years into our distant future and will not happen until after the Bottomless Pit is unlocked and the judged wicked heavenly hosts are able to leave the Bottomless pit in a last ditched attempt to upsurge God and His Plans for the Saints who love and worship God.

If you are as studious as you claim, then what I have posted above will begin to start making sense for you.

May the Lord continue to draw you into His understanding of the End Times.

Shalom

Let us reason step by step. Step one. Do you believe the earth is billions of years old, or less than 6,000 years old?
 
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Christianity 101 teaches us that we are not under the LAW. WE ARE UNDER GRACE.
Jesus fulfilled the requirements of the Law for us.
It is the inner man, his heart, and character that God works on. The old selve died. Sins, past , present and future have been washed away.

Humility, fruit of the Spirit, are identifying traits of the Christian. I can't find that in your attacks.
You were wrong and did not take it well, so you attack all of us whom you are suppose to love. We are not your enemies. But btw, you are told to love them too.
You must be born again to enter into the Kingdom of Heaven. It is a spiritual transformation. So we won't be taking any fiat money with us ... or anything else.
Actually I might add, all your preparations for this event, to secure your safety are futile. Our security is in Christ, not in bunkers with 3 1/2 years of food for our selves. With your big mouth, everyone around you knows what you have and they will come and take it all from you and likely kill you too. You likely have guns to protect you. Columbia has the drug cartels too, do you think you can handle them?
Besides, it is not our physical lives that we should be fearful of losing or fanatic about preserving. I often say if an Asteroid comes to start it off, let it hit me. I WOULD PREFER NOT TO HAVE TO ENDURE THROUGH THE GREAT TRIBULATION, although I believe we will have to go through most of it. It would be wonderful if the Pre-Tribbers were right, but I have my doubts.

I am a YEC, so I do believe we are close to this time. You were just off on your calculations. Live with it. I have been anticipating His imminent return for 30 years and haven't lost any yearning for that. It has grown and become more real recently with the world falling apart, the USA especially, pandemic, wars, frequency of quakes, etc.
Since Matthew 24:14 is pretty much fulfilled, I think it's a matter of months, before we see the Beast ( ten Islamic nations) attack Israel. The war will reveal the Antichrist . Russia and China are involved too. Russia had been behind a nuclear Iran for decades and now they likely have nukes. The Witnesses will come when this erupts but the exact day, no one knows. It could happen on a Jewish holiday? That would catch them off guard.

The Torah commands, "you shall not murder" and "you shall not steal". And the apostle Paul corroborates these commands of the Torah by saying that murderers and thieves will not inherit the kingdom of God. So, according to you, you do not need to obey these commands of the Torah regarding murder and theft because you are now under grace and not the Torah? This is a foolish thought. Yeshua did not come to bring anarchy to the world, which is why he said, "I did not come to abolish the Torah", but rather, he came that we may fulfill the Torah perfectly in the context of the belief in him, by receiving the anointing, which frees us from sin and causes us to obey the commands of the Torah perfectly. You are in error, and also many believers, which is why most believers will be thrown over the lake of lava, because of torahlessness. The commands of God in the Torah have not been abolished.
 

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You are in error, and also many believers, which is why most believers will be thrown over the lake of lava, because of torahlessness.
You are not my judge, nor anyone else's! You are a 38 year old caught up in legalism - and spiritually quite immature.

"nevertheless knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, so that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the Law; since by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified." Gal. 2:16

Romans 3:20



The Torah commands, "you shall not murder" and "you shall not steal". And the apostle Paul corroborates these commands of the Torah by saying that murderers and thieves will not inherit the kingdom of God. So, according to you, you do not need to obey these commands of the Torah regarding murder and theft because you are now under grace and not the Torah?
Christ said that all the laws fall under His two commandments: LOVE GOD AND LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR.
You seem to be disobedient to that second commandment with everyone on this board who disagrees with you! Look at yourself in the mirror Mr. LAWKEEPER.
We are not to practice sin. Once we are born again, we do not practice sin - but may slip up once in awhile.The Ten Commandments were given to the Israelites to show them what sin was AND to show the world. We are expected to abide in Christ, and so by loving God, obeying Him and loving our neighbors, we spiritually are compelled to conform to a life of holiness.
The Israelites were the chosen nation, the test case to show the world that man cannot keep the Law. They failed the test over and over as we all do. Therefore Jesus fulfilled the requirements of the LAW. CAPISCE?
Spiritually we have been cleansed. However, sin still dwells in the members of our flesh. There is a war between the spirit and the flesh and so as Paul says, "I do things that I do not want to do therefore it is not I that do them, but sin that dwells in me." Thankfully we have Grace, we have been pardoned - no lava lake for me!
>>Watch yourself from spewing condemnation to brothers and sisters - how dare you!

There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit." ROMANS 8:1
, "I did not come to abolish the Torah", butM rather, he came that we may fulfill the Torah perfectly
And He did! You cannot keep the Law. If you live by the Law, you will be judged by it. The penalty was paid for by Christ.
 
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You are not my judge, nor anyone else's! You are a 38 year old caught up in legaism - and spiritually quite immature.

"nevertheless knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, so that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the Law; since by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified." Gal. 2:16

Romans 3:20




Christ said that all the laws fall under His two commandments: LOVE GOD AND LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR.
You seem to be disobedient to that second commandment with everyone on this board who disagrees with you! Look at yourself in the mirror Mr. LAWKEEPER.
We are not to practice sin. Once we are born again, we do not practice sin - but may slip up once in awhile.The Ten Commandments were given to the Israelites to show them what sin was AND to show the world. We are expected to abide on Christ, and so by loving God, obeying Him and loving our neighbors, we spiritually are compelled to conform to a life of holiness.
The Israelites were the chosen nation, the test case to show the world that man cannot keep the Law. They failed the test over and over as we all do. Therefore Jesus fulfilled the requirements of the LAW. CAPISCE?
Spiritually we have been cleansed. However, sin still dwells in the members of our flesh. There is a war between the spirit and the flesh and so as Paul says, "I do things that I do not want to do therefore it is not I that do them, but sin that dwells in me." Thankfully we have Grace, we have been pardoned - no lava lake for me!
>>Watch yourself from spewing condemnation to brothers and sisters - how dare you!

There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit." ROMANS 8:1

And He did! You cannot keep the Law. If you live by the Law, you will be judged by it. The penalty was paid for by Christ.

Let us reason together. Step one. The Torah commands, "you shall not murder" and "you shall not steal". Are we obligated to obey these commands of the Torah, yes or no? A simple yes or no answer will suffice.
 

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Except none of you are actually "living for the lord", because living for the lord involves obeying the commands of God in the Torah of Moses and getting rid of all fiat currency. If Yeshua were to return tomorrow, all of you would be captured by his armies of angels, and judged, and thrown over lava like garbage, because you have not obeyed. The scriptures and the ancient texts tell us that Yeshua returns in the year 6,000, and the prophet Hosea confirms that he returns after 2,000 years from his first coming, because that is the year 6,000. This isn't a new teaching from me. The 2,000 years are almost up. I am not a prophet. I am merely a studious man knowing the timelines of the scriptures, like the wise men that knew the timing of the first coming of Yeshua.
Wow are you a pharisee! We do not live according to the Old covenant law. We live unto teh Law of christ. You need to read Galatians and realize that you are in danger of judgment for two grievous sins:

!. forcing th eLaw of Moses onto the church and:
2. Judgiing peoples salvation.
 
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Wow are you a pharisee! We do not live according to the Old covenant law. We live unto teh Law of christ. You need to read Galatians and realize that you are in danger of judgment for two grievous sins:

!. forcing th eLaw of Moses onto the church and:
2. Judgiing peoples salvation.

I am forcing "do not murder" unto you? Or has God commanded this unto all humanity? You people think God has no commands we must obey, as if he were a God of anarchy and lawlessness. God does indeed have a law, and it is the Torah of Moses, which has not been abolished.
 

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I am forcing "do not murder" unto you? Or has God commanded this unto all humanity? You people think God has no commands we must obey, as if he were a God of anarchy and lawlessness. God does indeed have a law, and it is the Torah of Moses, which has not been abolished.
No! the law of Moses had 613 commands of which I am sure many of them you do not obey! but the Law of christ has 1008 commands.

But no one is saved by the deeds of the law but by Faith in the Death burial; and resurrection of Jesus as the full payment for their sin debt before God the Father.
 
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No! the law of Moses had 613 commands of which I am sure many of them you do not obey! but the Law of christ has 1008 commands.

But no one is saved by the deeds of the law but by Faith in the Death burial; and resurrection of Jesus as the full payment for their sin debt before God the Father.

The Law of Moses is the Law of Christ. That is why Yeshua said, "I did not come to abolish the Torah", and also why Paul said, "do we then nullify the Torah by the belief? No, but rather we uphold the Torah". Never has "do not steal" and "do not murder" been abolished. Humanity has always been obligated to obey these commands before, and also now. You are in serious error, discarding the commands of God.
 

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The Law of Moses is the Law of Christ. That is why Yeshua said, "I did not come to abolish the Torah", and also why Paul said, "do we then nullify the Torah by the belief? No, but rather we uphold the Torah". Never has "do not steal" and "do not murder" been abolished. Humanity has always been obligated to obey these commands before, and also now. You are in serious error, discarding the commands of God.
so do you take your children to the outer gates of the city and stone them when they are rebellious?

Do you not wear mixed fabrics?
Do you refrain from venizen, pork, eels, all fish with no scales )including all shellfish) Do you bring your offerings to temple?

Or do you just pick and choose what laws of the 613 Mosaic commands to obey?

Besides what has this to do with all your false date setting other than to deflect the fact you have not publicly repented of your date setting.
 
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so do you take your children to the outer gates of the city and stone them when they are rebellious?

Do you not wear mixed fabrics?
Do you refrain from venizen, pork, eels, all fish with no scales )including all shellfish) Do you bring your offerings to temple?

Or do you just pick and choose what laws of the 613 Mosaic commands to obey?

Besides what has this to do with all your false date setting other than to deflect the fact you have not publicly repented of your date setting.

We are not in authority over the earth to carry out the death penalty of the Torah, that is why Yeshua told us "do not condemn", meaning do not carry out the condemnation of death of the Torah. And neither are we worthy to put others to death because we ourselves are also sinners and also deserve death. Once Yeshua returns, he is the one that will carry out the death penalty of the Torah, by judging all humanity, and condemning each one to die by being thrown over lava. The death penalty of the Torah has not been abolished, it has simply been postponed to a future time to give all humanity a chance now to repent on their own. Once Yeshua returns, he himself will punish all humanity with death, and will rule the world with a rod of iron, according the Torah of Moses.

The command to not wear shaatnez is still binding, because wool and linen are reserved only for the priests. We cannot wear wool and linen mixed together. It is a set-apart mixture.

There is no temple to bring offerings to.

Before Moses, "everything that moves" was permitted to be eaten. And so it is now also under the new covenant of Yeshua.

Although the Torah of Moses is still binding, the Torah has changed, after the first coming of Yeshua. But it has not been discarded.
 

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Let us reason together. Step one. The Torah commands, "you shall not murder" and "you shall not steal". Are we obligated to obey these commands of the Torah, yes or no? A simple yes or no answer will suffice.
Absolutely.
But can we keep the Law perfectly? Yes or no?
Can you earn your way to heaven based on your performance keeping the Law? Yes or no?
We are justified by faith, not by works of ĺļ Law - so that no one can boast.
I wonder, is that what you think you ar doing, boasting that you are keeping the Law. You deceive yourself if so.
 
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