What does it mean to be born again?

[Behold]

Do you claim to be walking on the same level as Paul? As Jesus? More like Luther...who was so deluded that he concocted a scheme that wrested the truth from the bible and turned it inside out..

So, Episkopos.... as THE person who defined the Grace of God as "free stuff", and the Beautiful Cross of Christ as "whipping boy" nonsense, you again find a way to spit on God's Grace.
Your hyper carnality is just RANTING, as usual.

This time Episkopos fires his usual cheap shots at God's Cross, by castigating Luther.

 

[Episkopos]

Brother you seem to just always stick to a pre-determined script rather than trying to hear what anyone else might bring. Like cement shoes weighing one down. We need wings to blow where the spirit is blowing and meet the Lord in the air, so to speak.

I don't hate you at all, where did you get that idea?

I don't know if you read the responses of others here. If you have, then you would be familiar with the crows that circle around me whenever I teach the truth. Do you see yourself among them...as in "all" believers? Are you just one more crow?

While I never judge a brother in any permanent way...I point out the spirit they are operating in...in the hope that they will turn to Christ and be healed from their carnal rebellion...and unbelief.

 

[Lizbeth]

It’s okay. I know you’re doing the best you can. But I’m not going to ever treat seriously anyone whose sole intent to enter a thread is to attack and tear down rather than discuss. I will always answer nonsense with nonsensical animal videos. So everyone will have to bear with me or else ignore me. And I would do the same thing if I saw someone stalk every thread you went to to attack you too.

Nope, that is not my intent. I'm not stalking anyone, I'm interested in the subject matter and trying to make sense of it all, for my sake, for everyone's sake and for truth's sake.

Anyhow I think I understand you. Lord love you and finish your healing.

 

[Behold]

. Well, no wonder so many will be rejected.

The only reason God will reject you NOW, and after you DIE, is if you have not been born again.

Find that here.

John 3:36

 

[Behold]

I don't know if you read the responses of others here. If you have, then you would be familiar with the crows that circle around me whenever I teach the truth.

Have you taught any yet?

I think that your self righteousness, that defined the Cross as "whipping boy" nonsense, is the only TRUTH people need to realize about you, Episkopos.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

So, Episkopos.... as THE person who defined the Grace of God as "free stuff", and the Beautiful Cross of Christ as "whipping boy" nonsense, you again find a way to spit on God's Grace.
Your hyper carnality is just RANTING, as usual.

This time Episkopos fires his usual cheap shots at God's Cross, by castigating Luther.

 

[Behold]

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He enjoys you being his Forum cheerleader.
And you have mastered it, and he's not stopped laughing.
Yesterday, he was watching you and Lisbeth fight over his theological legalism, and every time you slowed down, he'd run back in here and give you another "LIKE"< and you would be good to go for 20 more posts...obo
See, He'll keep giving you "Likes" as he knows this keeps you doing his cheers, as you are the very last leg he can stand on in this Thread.

So Keep doing that good work for him, stunnedbygrace, and dont let the fact that he defined YOUR SAVOR's Cross as "whipping boy" nonsense, get you down., or slow you down.

Just keep those spiritual blinders on and enjoy your darkness, as he'll happily keep you there for as long as you LIKE.

 

[Episkopos]

If anyone has any wisdom at all here.

Who is more likely to be seen as reprobate? The one who testifies of a higher walk and encourages others to seek it...or the ones who attack that one and say he is a devil etc...

Think really hard about it. Because if you think this will not be reviewed on judgment day, your head is in the sand.

 

[Behold]

If anyone has any wisdom at all here.

Who is more likely to be seen as reprobate? The one who testifies of a higher walk and encourages others to seek it...or the ones who attack that one and say he is a devil etc...

I said, and you might have missed it.... that even the Demons that Jesus cast out, never demeaned Him.
You on the other hand said the Beautiful Grace of God, that IS the Cross of Christ, is...>"free stuff" and "whipping boy nonsense".. on a "christian" forum.


So, that seems like Devil chatter to me, fella., and not just me.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Nope, that is not my intent. I'm not stalking anyone, I'm interested in the subject matter and trying to make sense of it all, for my sake, for everyone's sake and for truth's sake.

Anyhow I think I understand you. Lord love you and finish your healing.

I sort of believe you that you don’t have the intent to stalk him. In fact, I think you see some things you would like to hear him expound on some more and it never really happens because of the “crows” who go into his every thread and start trashing the place like drunk bikers so no one can hear the band.
But you do begin to be influenced by the bad spirit they approach with, and THAT I understand because I have had that problem too before I was weaned. I was almost helpless against it happening most times that someone else’s stirred up flesh just snagged a hook in my own flesh and tossed me around until I was livid and anger fueled. Of course, I was the type to try to hide my flesh whereas others let it fly. I actually respect them more than I respect those who try to hide that they’re angry and grudging and resentful and prideful.

And I know that if someone is more than one or two steps ahead of us spiritually, it’s actually normal that we will think them evil whereas if someone is only one or two steps beyond us we will admire and seek to emulate them.

I think if you approach men, (even the ones you think might be saying something that cant be true) in the right spirit, you can at least keep the conversation from spiraling downward. Unless they are coming in the wrong spirit.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

He enjoys you being his Forum cheerleader.
And you have mastered it, and he's not stopped laughing.
Yesterday, he was watching you and Lisbeth fight over his theological legalism, and every time you slowed down, he'd run back in here and give you another "LIKE"< and you would be good to go for 20 more posts...obo
See, He'll keep giving you "Likes" as he knows this keeps you doing his cheers, as you are the very last leg he can stand on in this Thread.

So Keep doing that good work for him, stunnedbygrace, and dont let the fact that he defined YOUR SAVOR's Cross as "whipping boy" nonsense, get you down., or slow you down.

Just keep those spiritual blinders on and enjoy your darkness, as he'll happily keep you there for as long as you LIKE.

Actually, I get the impression that he maybe thinks I take the nonsense too far when I am confronted with nonsense.
But you really don’t see that my nonsense is just a reaction to your nonsense. I can’t take your nonsense seriously. I just can’t.

 

[Episkopos]

I said, and you might have missed it.... that even the Demons that Jesus cast out, never demeaned Him.
You on the other hand said the Beautiful Grace of God, that IS the Cross of Christ, is...>"free stuff" and "whipping boy nonsense".. on a "christian" forum.


So, that seems like Devil chatter to me, fella., and not just me.

You demean God, His ways, His sacrifice, and His servants. While you still have a chance to repent the horrible eternity that awaits you...repent.

 

[Michiah-Imla]

the closer I get to Jesus, the more aware I become of my failings, my shortcomings, and my fallen human state.

SOLUTION:

“…put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.” (Ephesians 4:24)

 

[Lizbeth]

I don't know if you read the responses of others here. If you have, then you would be familiar with the crows that circle around me whenever I teach the truth. Do you yourself among them...as in "all" believers? Are you just one more crow?

While I never judge a brother inany permanent way..I point out the spirit they are operating in...in the hope that they will turn to Christ and be healed from their carnal rebellion...and unbelief.

People disagreeing is not necessarily being a crow. Only ad hominem cheap shots are, which we have seen some of that to my dismay.

We are told to test all things, and that is sure what we need to do, so we try not to mind too much when our theology gets put on a rack and picked over and picked at and crashed into a wall and blow-torched or dunked in a tank of acid and tested and tried. :)

 

[stunnedbygrace]

So, that seems like Devil chatter to me, fella., and not just me.

 

[Lizbeth]

I sort of believe you that you don’t have the intent to stalk him. In fact, I think you see some things you would like to hear him expound on some more and it never really happens because of the “crows” who go into his every thread and start trashing the place like drunk bikers so no one can hear the band.
But you do begin to be influenced by the bad spirit they approach with, and THAT I understand because I have had that problem too before I was weaned. I was almost helpless against it happening most times that someone else’s stirred up flesh just snagged a hook in my own flesh and tossed me around until I was livid and anger fueled. Of course, I was the type to try to hide my flesh whereas others let it fly. I actually respect them more than I respect those who try to hide that they’re angry and grudging and resentful and prideful.

And I know that if someone is more than one or two steps ahead of us spiritually, it’s actually normal that we will think them evil whereas if someone is only one or two steps beyond us we will admire and seek to emulate them.

I think if you approach men, (even the ones you think might be saying something that cant be true) in the right spirit, you can at least keep the conversation from spiraling downward. Unless they are coming in the wrong spirit.

Well I don't really know what to say sister. There are bound to be areas of disagreements, that's normal in all areas of life. We all need to grow past a point of only liking people who agree with us and disliking those who don't, and die to our emotions. Everyone differs in their sensitivities I understand that, but really we don't need to take it personally when people simply disagree with us over something.

I just consider forums to be a place for discussion where disagreement is to be expected as the norm, but we all need to learn how to handle it in a Godly way, that's all. Life is not easy and sometimes it's extremely challenging.

The Lord works in MYSTERIOUS ways, that means by His Spirit, so I don't insist that people agree with me if I happen to believe I'm speaking the truth about something, and for the most part I'm able to not equate disagreement with hate or a personal vendetta. Sometimes seeds are planted that only germinate later on, or people who are only reading and not speaking may be encouraged or edified by something. Point being, our job is only to speak the truth and the rest of what happens from there is God's business. That said of course we all have our limit of endurance and can get frustrated and tired and hope to be extended grace when that happens. Just my two cents, I'm not sure if this is addressing your post very well, my brain is getting tired already.

Weaning. There is another way we can be weaned as we grow.

 

[Lizbeth]

Actually, I get the impression that he maybe thinks I take the nonsense too far when I am confronted with nonsense.
But you really don’t see that my nonsense is just a reaction to your nonsense. I can’t take your nonsense seriously. I just can’t.
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Nope, that just may be how you justify your nonsense. We need more humility than that surely.

 

[APAK]

I agree Epi, we are all sinners, but where sin abounds, grace does much more abound. And the good that we do is due to that very same grace, and we remain nothing more than unworthy servants. I don't know about you or others here, but as far as I'm concerned the closer I get to Jesus, the more aware I become of my failings, my shortcomings, and my fallen human state. The good news is I also become more aware that without Him I can do nothing... And with Him I can do all things.

Bro. You can call yourself a sinner as much as you want. I on the other hand are not one of them as the world cherishes and wallows in. The power of sin does not reign or completely rule within me anymore since I became reborn as compared to when I was first born into this earth. I have hated sin of it truest definition and in any real form and real nature since I was a late teen. And yes it's the grace of God that makes all the difference within my person. Yes our faith in Christ with the guidance of the Spirit of God make all the difference in the world for me. How say you?

Have a G'day ...doing buses still?

 

[stunnedbygrace]

The only reason God will reject you NOW, and after you DIE, is if you have not been born again.

Find that here.

John 3:36

Well I don't really know what to say sister. There are bound to be areas of disagreements, that's normal in all areas of life. We all need to grow past a point of only liking people who agree with us and disliking those who don't, and die to our emotions. Everyone differs in their sensitivities I understand that, but really we don't need to take it personally when people simply disagree with us over something.

I have no problem with, “I disagree and here’s how I see it,” or “I think I disagree with that.” (Epi doesn’t either.)
I have a problem with: I disagree and you are teaching demonic things and are a worker for satan for questioning or even DARING to discuss whether the doctrinal idols of my fathers might be wrong in places! So I will caterwaul at the top of my lungs and attempt to get your thread into a bloody brawl so they will shut it down and you will be silenced and not allowed to “spread your disinformation.”
I have seen the largest Christian forum there was run itself into the ground and it is no more. They censored and shut down freedom to question, discuss and ask until, towards the end, I quite literally saw a man kicked out for preaching the WHOLE gospel, the pleasant parts AND the parts bitter to our flesh.

I just consider forums to be a place for discussion where disagreement is to be expected as the norm, but we all need to learn how to handle it in a Godly way, that's all. Life is not easy and sometimes it's extremely challenging.

I fully and completely agree. I disagree is good. You are the devil because I disagree is bad.

The Lord works in MYSTERIOUS ways, that means by His Spirit, so I don't insist that people agree with me if I happen to believe I'm speaking the truth about something, and for the most part I'm able to not equate disagreement with hate or a personal vendetta.

Thats good.

Sometimes seeds are planted that only germinate later on, or people who are only reading and not speaking may be encouraged or edified by something. Point being, our job is only to speak the truth and the rest of what happens from there is God's business. That said of course we all have our limit of endurance and can get frustrated and tired and hope to be extended grace when that happens. Just my two cents, I'm not sure if this is addressing your post very well, my brain is getting tired already.

It’s perfectly fine to speak what you currently understand to be truth. Your mind is being renewed. As a result, there’s going to be some changing of your mind at various stages. If no changing of the mind ever occurred as we grew, it wouldn’t be renewing, it would be opposition to God and stagnation.

Weaning. There is another way we can be weaned as we grow.

Not grasping what you mean.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Nope, that just may be how you justify your nonsense. We need more humility than that surely.

Believe me, I have struggled with what would be the best way to respond to men who enter with the sole purpose of tearing down and destroying and hating. This is where I currently am. I cannot let a mob beat the daylights out of a brother or sister without speaking. I cannot ignore a destroying mob and just let them abuse someone, even IF I personally think the person is mistaken in some things. I can ignore one person doing it but when they all run in and take turns and encourage each other to beat a man to death, I can’t ignore it.
And it sickens me when they do it and then Crow how the person is abusing THEM.

And as honest as I can be about my heart, I do not meet their nonsense with nonsense because I am angry or hate them. I do it because I cannot bear to see a mob attack anyone. Do I have more love and care for the person being abused than for the ones enjoying beating and kicking them? Yes. Is that wrong? I don’t know. But I’m human and I’m not walking in the Spirit in His perfect love. So yes, I care more for the person being beaten, though I do not hate the ones beating. And silly memes and gifs are the least violent way I’ve been able to deal with the nasty mob.