What is the one true Church?

[Jim B]

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FAQ: How many people must someone kill illegally to qualify as a murderer?

REPLY: Just one.

FAQ: How many robberies must someone commit to qualify as a thief?

REPLY: Just one.

FAQ: How many times must someone sleep with another's spouse to qualify
as an adulterer?

REPLY: Just once.

FAQ: How many times must someone take The Lord's name in vain to
qualify as a blasphemer?

REPLY: Just once.

FAQ: How many times must someone vilify an innocent person's name to
qualify as a slanderer?

REPLY: Just once.

FAQ: How many deliberate sins must someone commit to qualify as a willful
sinner?

REPLY: Just one.

FAQ: How many times must someone be dishonest to qualify as a liar.

REPLY: Just once.

FAQ: Does all of the above apply to Protestants and Catholics alike?

REPLY: Yes.

FAQ: Then how are Protestants superior to Catholics?

REPLY: They're no better; for all have sinned and fall short of God's
perfection. You see; God has set the bar pretty high and I know of no one in
either camp who's managed to clear it.
_

I agree with you on every point -- except the last one.

You wrote that "all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" but that is clearly taken out of context. Here it is in context [with my emphases]...

"But now, apart from the law, the righteousness of God has been disclosed and is attested by the Law and the Prophets, the righteousness of God through the faith of Jesus Christ[d] for all who believe. For there is no distinction, since all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God; they are now justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, whom God put forward as a sacrifice of atonement by his blood, effective through faith. He did this to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over the sins previously committed; it was to demonstrate at the present time his own righteousness, so that he is righteous and he justifies the one who has the faith of Jesus."

Everyone who has accepted Jesus Christ as their Savior has "cleared the bar" and is justified by God's grace.

 

[David in NJ]

That wasn’t the question.
The question was whether or not ALL have sinned – and I showed that they haven’t.

You have shown a lack of understanding the words of God - even to the point of twisting Holy Scripture.

 

[David in NJ]

That wasn’t the question.
The question was whether or not ALL have sinned – and I showed that they haven’t.

the King Prophet rebukes you - Psalm 51

Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity,
And in sin my mother conceived me.

 

[amigo de christo]

So, if they are born in sin but as you say 'did not commit sin' are they still under the power of sin?

all are under the power of sin , TILL JESUS SET THEM FREE from that power .
For though babies on the teet might not sin , give them time they will soon do things they ought not to have done .
Ignorance is one thing , but willfull is another . As i am sure you already know .
I have only these few words to say so take heed . NEVER SIT UNDER ROME or any other false leader .
I know , i know its like i am singing to the choir , but people come daily and read these messages .
AND I NEVER want one person to ever sit under a harlot . AS again i am sure you do agree .

 

[BreadOfLife]

WRONG.

Human beings are creatures created from dust of the earth.
Jesus was no more a created human being ...
than YOU are God without a beginning and creator and maker.

So much for putting your utter ignorant on display.
“Born in sin but haven’t committed sin” to you means without sin?

If you can NOT grasp SIN IS SIN, surely you don’t think I think you qualified to discuss Scripture on a level beyond your capability.

BOL...”Jesus was a human being “....... LOL.
Your Catholic teaching has FAILED you.

WRONG.

The following verses state explicitly that Jesus, who is God is also a HUMAN BEING (Acts 2:22, Acts 2:23, Acts 17:31, 1 Tim. 2:5, Rom. 5:15).

The Greek word for “man” used in these verses is "Anthropops".
"Anthropops" means “a human being", whether male or female, generically, to include all human individuals, to distinguish man from beings of a different race or order.”

YOUR belief that Jesus ISN’T a human being is unbiblical and outright heresy.

He was not “implanted” in Mary who later “hatched” Him. He was conceived in HER womb (Luke 1:31) by the overshadowing of the Holy Spirit.

What a load of nonsense. Babies are NOT naturally Born Believing IN God...
Are you so corrupt in your basic knowledge that you do NOT Know..
NOT Believing in the Lord God.......IS A SIN?

What an asinine and Scripturally-Bankrupt statement.
Regarding the culpability for sin - Jesus Himself stated:

John 9:41
Jesus said, “If you were blind, you would not be guilty of sin; but now that you claim you can see, your guilt remains.. . .

Newborn babies are NO MORE capable of committing sin than a piece of toast . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

the King Prophet rebukes you - Psalm 51

Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity,
And in sin my mother conceived me.

Absolutely.
HOEWVER, this doesn't mean that the baby has committed sin, Einstein . . .

 

[David in NJ]

Absolutely.
HOEWVER, this doesn't mean that the baby has committed sin, Einstein . . .

Like i said before = if you were not serious this would be funny

BUT because you are serious = this is death to your soul

 

[amigo de christo]

Let me help you out here concerning angels.

For to which of the angels did He ever say:

“You are My Son,
Today I have begotten You”?
And again:

“I will be to Him a Father,
And He shall be to Me a Son”?

But when He again brings the firstborn into the world, He says:

“Let all the angels of God worship Him = JESUS.”

7And of the angels He says:

“Who makes His angels spirits
And His ministers a flame of fire

But to which of the angels has He ever said:

“Sit at My right hand,
Till I make Your enemies Your footstool”?

Are they(angels) not all ministering spirits sent forth to minister for those who will inherit salvation?

Every catholic needs to read, study, pray and obey Hebrews into their life that they may attain unto Eternal Life.

Well this just also reminded me of what the angel told JOHN .
John went to KNEEL before the angel to worship him and The angel STOPPED that real fast .
GET UP , WORSHIP GOD , the TESTIMONY OF JESUS IS THE SPIRIT of prophecy .
Even mary will one day rebuke this harlot . Had anyone kneeled before her
she would have done the same thing peter or paul did . GET UP , we but men , or in her case woman .
But the harlot says we ought to pray to them , to saints , to mary and who knows what else .
But let us examine JESUS .
Now before i write this i want us to know that all generations do call mary blessed .
But we dont pray to her .
JESUS shut down that kind of worship . A good example
was when the lady said BLESSED are the PAPS which ye did suck .
JESUS said YEA RATHER , BLESSED are those who hear the word and DO IT .
Jesus took the worship away from man and put it back on GOD .
A Lesson the harlot would do well to learn .
Another example .
Your mother and your brethren stand outside desiring to speak with you .
Notice JESUS did not say , WELL PULL her up a chair and bow to her .
HE said , YEA RATHER my brethren are THOSE WHO DO THE WILL OF GOD . THOSE WHO SIT AT HIS FEET and listen to HIM .
Enough with the harlot and her daughters . I have come to expose their works of darkness
by pointing to the LIGHT ALONE . TO ER WORD OF GOD OF CHRIST and the truth in those scriptures .
And i have a strong hunch you aint opposed to that . Exactly . cause WE GONNA POINT TO GOD and HIS CHRIST and not to men .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Like i said before = if you were not serious this would be funny

BUT because you are serious = this is death to your soul

It’s “death” to my soul for having recognized the Biblical truth that babies don’t sin??
Who gave YOU the power to condemn MY soul?

More anti-Catholic arrogance . . .

 

[amigo de christo]

.
FAQ: How many people must someone kill illegally to qualify as a murderer?

REPLY: Just one.

FAQ: How many robberies must someone commit to qualify as a thief?

REPLY: Just one.

FAQ: How many times must someone sleep with another's spouse to qualify
as an adulterer?

REPLY: Just once.

FAQ: How many times must someone take The Lord's name in vain to
qualify as a blasphemer?

REPLY: Just once.

FAQ: How many times must someone vilify an innocent person's name to
qualify as a slanderer?

REPLY: Just once.

FAQ: How many deliberate sins must someone commit to qualify as a willful
sinner?

REPLY: Just one.

FAQ: How many times must someone be dishonest to qualify as a liar.

REPLY: Just once.

FAQ: Does all of the above apply to Protestants and Catholics alike?

REPLY: Yes.

FAQ: Then how are Protestants superior to Catholics?

REPLY: They're no better; for all have sinned and fall short of God's
perfection. You see; God has set the bar pretty high and I know of no one in
either camp who's managed to clear it.
_

The problem with man and sadly with many church leaders is that they set the bar for what is good , holy and righteous
by the standards of men and not GOD .
Many compare themselves against many . But they forget the righteousness of GOD
is by what we are measured . AND WHO on earth has been as righteous and perfect as GOD . NONE .
cept the SON . ITS WHY WE MUST PREACH JESUS TO THE LAST and FINAL breath .
FOR IN HE ALONE is one made righteous . AND this is just as necessary , we better preach THE BIBLCAL JESUS
the things HE taught , the things the apostels taught . CAUSE any other go spell , or other jesus
or doctrine that contradicts that pure and holy doctrine . IT AINT COMING FROM GOD but rather of men
under the influence of the dark one who has always desired the worship and to be AS GOD .
ANd HE will hold a dark rainbow high and call it love , He will honor sin .
FOR through the lusts of the flesh is how one does worship him . BIBLE TIME . for its too late .

 

[Webers_Home]

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"The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David" (Luke 1:30-33)

Before Jesus could be considered for David's throne, he first had to be
among David's biological descendants; no exceptions.

● Ps 89:35-36 . . Once have I sworn by my holiness that I will not lie unto
David. His seed shall endure forever, and his throne as the sun before me.

● Ps 132:11 . .The Lord has sworn in truth unto David; and He will not turn
from it: "Of the fruit of your body will I set upon your throne"

The New Testament verifies that Jesus satisfies the biological requirement.

● Acts 2:29-30 . . Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the
patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulcher is with us
unto this day. Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn
with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he
would raise up Christ to sit on his throne.

● Rom 1:1-3 . . Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David
according to the flesh

The Greek word for "seed" is a mite ambiguous because it can refer to
spiritual progeny as well as to biological progeny; for example:

● Gal 3:29 . . If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed.

Abraham's seed obviously refers to spiritual progeny; whereas David's seed
refers to biological progeny because his is 1) the fruit of his body and 2) of
his loins according to the flesh.

FAQ: Jesus was virgin conceived. How then could David possibly fit into
Jesus' biological genealogy?

REPLY: That would be a piece of cake if Mary's biological father descended
from David; which Luke 3:23 would easily prove if its language and
grammar were not so controversial.

FAQ: From whence did baby Jesus obtain a Y chromosome for his male
gender?

REPLY: In the beginning, Eve's entire body-- inside and out, front to back,
top to bottom, and side to side --was constructed with material taken from
Adam's body. (Gen 2:21-22) So if God could construct an entire woman
from material taken from a man's body, then it shouldn't be too difficult for
Him to construct a teensy little chromosome from a woman's body.

Seeing as how Eve is the mother of all women (Gen 3:20 & Acts 17:26) then
any material taken from Mary's body to construct a Y chromosome for baby
Jesus would be owed to Eve's body; and by construction: Adam's body.

The beauty of it is that a Y chromosome constructed with material taken
from Mary's body wouldn't be an alien substance created ex nihilo; but
would be 100% natural, and easily traceable all the way back to Eve, and
from thence to the very dust that was used to construct Adam's body.

I'm very confident that what I suggest herein actually took place when the
power of the Most High overshadowed Jesus' mom per Luke 1:35; and if my
suggestion is true, then little Jesus was thoroughly a Jew-- biologically
descended not only from David and Abraham as all other Jews, but also from
the Man that God created in the book of Genesis.

● Heb 2:17 . . He had to be made like his brethren in every way
_

 

[David in NJ]

Well this just also reminded me of what the angel told JOHN .
John went to KNEEL before the angel to worship him and The angel STOPPED that real fast .
GET UP , WORSHIP GOD , the TESTIMONY OF JESUS IS THE SPIRIT of prophecy .
Even mary will one day rebuke this harlot . Had anyone kneeled before her
she would have done the same thing peter or paul did . GET UP , we but men , or in her case woman .
But the harlot says we ought to pray to them , to saints , to mary and who knows what else .
But let us examine JESUS .
Now before i write this i want us to know that all generations do call mary blessed .
But we dont pray to her .
JESUS shut down that kind of worship . A good example
was when the lady said BLESSED are the PAPS which ye did suck .
JESUS said YEA RATHER , BLESSED are those who hear the word and DO IT .
Jesus took the worship away from man and put it back on GOD .
A Lesson the harlot would do well to learn .
Another example .
Your mother and your brethren stand outside desiring to speak with you .
Notice JESUS did not say , WELL PULL her up a chair and bow to her .
HE said , YEA RATHER my brethren are THOSE WHO DO THE WILL OF GOD . THOSE WHO SIT AT HIS FEET and listen to HIM .
Enough with the harlot and her daughters . I have come to expose their works of darkness
by pointing to the LIGHT ALONE . TO ER WORD OF GOD OF CHRIST and the truth in those scriptures .
And i have a strong hunch you aint opposed to that . Exactly . cause WE GONNA POINT TO GOD and HIS CHRIST and not to men .

You keep spoiling the moment of Truth that i lay down for them.............but Thank You

 

[David in NJ]

It’s “death” to my soul for having recognized the Biblical truth that babies don’t sin??
Who gave YOU the power to condemn MY soul?

More anti-Catholic arrogance . . .

You, me and every person who ever lived gave power to the death of our own souls = God said so = "ALL have sinned"

There is only One Remedy for ALL of us = Gospel of John chapter 3

Stop calling God a liar by saying: "babies don't sin"

 

[amigo de christo]

It’s “death” to my soul for having recognized the Biblical truth that babies don’t sin??
Who gave YOU the power to condemn MY soul?

More anti-Catholic arrogance . . .

Rather interesting question . who gave anyone the power to condmen anyone .
But david does not condemn you . Those who oppose the truth condemn themselves .
But here is a question for ya . Since you actually did bring up a good point .
WHO on earth gave these popes the so called power to pray souls OUT of purgatory .
Let alone condemn one to it . A LAMB wont suffer that place called hades .
The popes made MONEY off this trash and you all bought it hook line and sinker .
Do me a favor and yourself one too . IF , LORD WILLING i do die before you do
TELL the pope and the CC not to bother praying for my soul . FOR IN CHRIST i shall be with HIM in paradise .
NOT to mention the FACT that if one did not follow HIM , you could pray all day and all night for the deceased person ,
BUT IT WONT MATTER . TOO LATE . TOO LATE . SO do this pope a favor too .
TRY TELLING HIM WE NEED TO PREACH CHRIST TO THE LIVING instead of his rebuking this .
CAUSE ITS THOSE WHO NEED TO HEAR the gospel and REPENT , BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE .
PS , the protestant realm has become as bad as the RCC too . BUT i heed not the false ones .
OPEN BIBLE . READ FOR YOU and run from that house . I say the same to the sold out protestant realm .
FLEE any leaders which are false protestants and learn that bible FOR YOU and fast .

 

[amigo de christo]

You keep spoiling the moment of Truth that i lay down for them.............but Thank You

Well , we must work together by the POWER of the SPIRIT to warn the lost before it is TOO LATE for them .

 

[David in NJ]

.
"The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David" (Luke 1:30-33)

Before Jesus could be considered for David's throne, he first had to be
among David's biological descendants; no exceptions.

● Ps 89:35-36 . . Once have I sworn by my holiness that I will not lie unto
David. His seed shall endure forever, and his throne as the sun before me.

● Ps 132:11 . .The Lord has sworn in truth unto David; and He will not turn
from it: "Of the fruit of your body will I set upon your throne"

The New Testament verifies that Jesus satisfies the biological requirement.

● Acts 2:29-30 . . Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the
patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulcher is with us
unto this day. Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn
with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he
would raise up Christ to sit on his throne.

● Rom 1:1-3 . . Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David
according to the flesh

The Greek word for "seed" is a mite ambiguous because it can refer to
spiritual progeny as well as to biological progeny; for example:

● Gal 3:29 . . If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed.

Abraham's seed obviously refers to spiritual progeny; whereas David's seed
refers to biological progeny because his is 1) the fruit of his body and 2) of
his loins according to the flesh.

FAQ: Jesus was virgin conceived. How then could David possibly fit into
Jesus' biological genealogy?

REPLY: That would be a piece of cake if Mary's biological father descended
from David; which Luke 3:23 would easily prove if its language and
grammar were not so controversial.

FAQ: From whence did baby Jesus obtain a Y chromosome for his male
gender?

REPLY: In the beginning, Eve's entire body-- inside and out, front to back,
top to bottom, and side to side --was constructed with material taken from
Adam's body. (Gen 2:21-22) So if God could construct an entire woman
from material taken from a man's body, then it shouldn't be too difficult for
Him to construct a teensy little chromosome from a woman's body.

Seeing as how Eve is the mother of all women (Gen 3:20 & Acts 17:26) then
any material taken from Mary's body to construct a Y chromosome for baby
Jesus would be owed to Eve's body; and by construction: Adam's body.

The beauty of it is that a Y chromosome constructed with material taken
from Mary's body wouldn't be an alien substance created ex nihilo; but
would be 100% natural, and easily traceable all the way back to Eve, and
from thence to the very dust that was used to construct Adam's body.

I'm very confident that what I suggest herein actually took place when the
power of the Most High overshadowed Jesus' mom per Luke 1:35; and if my
suggestion is true, then little Jesus was thoroughly a Jew-- biologically
descended not only from David and Abraham as all other Jews, but also from
the Man that God created in the book of Genesis.

● Heb 2:17 . . He had to be made like his brethren in every way
_

100%

 

[amigo de christo]

.
"The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David" (Luke 1:30-33)

Before Jesus could be considered for David's throne, he first had to be
among David's biological descendants; no exceptions.

● Ps 89:35-36 . . Once have I sworn by my holiness that I will not lie unto
David. His seed shall endure forever, and his throne as the sun before me.

● Ps 132:11 . .The Lord has sworn in truth unto David; and He will not turn
from it: "Of the fruit of your body will I set upon your throne"

The New Testament verifies that Jesus satisfies the biological requirement.

● Acts 2:29-30 . . Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the
patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulcher is with us
unto this day. Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn
with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he
would raise up Christ to sit on his throne.

● Rom 1:1-3 . . Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David
according to the flesh

The Greek word for "seed" is a mite ambiguous because it can refer to
spiritual progeny as well as to biological progeny; for example:

● Gal 3:29 . . If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed.

Abraham's seed obviously refers to spiritual progeny; whereas David's seed
refers to biological progeny because his is 1) the fruit of his body and 2) of
his loins according to the flesh.

FAQ: Jesus was virgin conceived. How then could David possibly fit into
Jesus' biological genealogy?

REPLY: That would be a piece of cake if Mary's biological father descended
from David; which Luke 3:23 would easily prove if its language and
grammar were not so controversial.

FAQ: From whence did baby Jesus obtain a Y chromosome for his male
gender?

REPLY: In the beginning, Eve's entire body-- inside and out, front to back,
top to bottom, and side to side --was constructed with material taken from
Adam's body. (Gen 2:21-22) So if God could construct an entire woman
from material taken from a man's body, then it shouldn't be too difficult for
Him to construct a teensy little chromosome from a woman's body.

Seeing as how Eve is the mother of all women (Gen 3:20 & Acts 17:26) then
any material taken from Mary's body to construct a Y chromosome for baby
Jesus would be owed to Eve's body; and by construction: Adam's body.

The beauty of it is that a Y chromosome constructed with material taken
from Mary's body wouldn't be an alien substance created ex nihilo; but
would be 100% natural, and easily traceable all the way back to Eve, and
from thence to the very dust that was used to construct Adam's body.

I'm very confident that what I suggest herein actually took place when the
power of the Most High overshadowed Jesus' mom per Luke 1:35; and if my
suggestion is true, then little Jesus was thoroughly a Jew-- biologically
descended not only from David and Abraham as all other Jews, but also from
the Man that God created in the book of Genesis.

● Heb 2:17 . . He had to be made like his brethren in every way
_

He had to made like us , IN ORDER TO SAVE US .
Exactly . LET THE KING be praised .
HE had to be made the likness of sinful flesh , HE OVERCAME IT , no other man did or could .
THIS WAS TO SAVE US . And he took on our punishments that we all did earn .
And was crucified on a cross and made a curse , so that all who do believe IN HIM would no longer be under the curse .
AND he rose again that we might be justified , that we would walk in the newness of life . Doing by the power
of the SPIRIT the things which PLEASE GOD . THERE IS POWER in THE RISEN SAVOIR
and my how it transforms a man from within into a new creature which loveth righteousness and hates even the evil of its own flesh .
Now lift those hands and let all that draweth , or draws breath , PRAISE THE GLORIOUS LORD . MY HOPE IS IN HE ALONE .
And what a wonderful home awaits the lambs at the end of our faith , at the end of our journey . LET THE KING be praised .

 

[BreadOfLife]

You, me and every person who ever lived gave power to the death of our own souls = God said so = "ALL have sinned"

There is only One Remedy for ALL of us = Gospel of John chapter 3

Stop calling God a liar by saying: "babies don't sin"

No – YOU need to stop perverting Scripture by saying that babies DO sin. Babies don’t possess the faculties to sin, which requires knowledge that something is sinful and consent to commit the sin.

The “ALL have sinned” in Romans 3 - where it also says that there is “NONE righteous” - is a reference to Psalm 14, where it says:

Psalm 15:1-4
The fool says in his heart, "There is no God." They are corrupt, their deeds are vile; there is no one who does good.
2
The LORD looks down from heaven on the sons of men to see if there are any who understand, any who seek God.
3
All have turned aside, they have together become corrupt; there is no one who does good, not even one.
4
Will evildoers never learn-- those who devour my people as men eat bread and who do not call on the LORD?

But WAIT – what does verse 5 say??

Verse 5
There they are, overwhelmed with dread, for God is present in the company of the righteous.

Gee – I thought there was “NONE” righteous??

This is a textbook example of how most Protestants don’t understand Scripture and the inclusive language it uses.

 

[amigo de christo]

Someone needs to change their name from bread of life to bread of rome . and yeah its a bor as in boring to the soul
to have to hear it . LET US POINT TO CHRIST , HE IS THE JOY and HOPE of the LAMBS THE TRUE BREAD OF LIFE .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Rather interesting question . who gave anyone the power to condmen anyone .
But david does not condemn you . Those who oppose the truth condemn themselves .
But here is a question for ya . Since you actually did bring up a good point .
WHO on earth gave these popes the so called power to pray souls OUT of purgatory .
Let alone condemn one to it . A LAMB wont suffer that place called hades .
The popes made MONEY off this trash and you all bought it hook line and sinker .
Do me a favor and yourself one too . IF , LORD WILLING i do die before you do
TELL the pope and the CC not to bother praying for my soul . FOR IN CHRIST i shall be with HIM in paradise .
NOT to mention the FACT that if one did not follow HIM , you could pray all day and all night for the deceased person ,
BUT IT WONT MATTER . TOO LATE . TOO LATE . SO do this pope a favor too .
TRY TELLING HIM WE NEED TO PREACH CHRIST TO THE LIVING instead of his rebuking this .
CAUSE ITS THOSE WHO NEED TO HEAR the gospel and REPENT , BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE .
PS , the protestant realm has become as bad as the RCC too . BUT i heed not the false ones .
OPEN BIBLE . READ FOR YOU and run from that house . I say the same to the sold out protestant realm .
FLEE any leaders which are false protestants and learn that bible FOR YOU and fast .

This is a CLASSIC example of your personal ignorance of ALL things Catholic. You claim to have once been a Catholic – yet you know absolutely NOTHING about Catholic doctrine.

A Pope cannot condemn ANYBODY to Hell or Purgatory – or get them out. Who told you this nonsense – and WHY do you present it aas “fact”??

If you were to have presented it as a question because you obviously DON’T know – then that would have been fine. By, as it stands now – you are guilty of violating God’s Commandment against bearing FALSE witness.