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But nobody has ever completed it!

That’s my point!

Some of you probably have many years in the faith but never say that your sanctification process is completed.

BECAUSE IT’S A LIE!

YOU EITHER SERVE SIN, OR SERVE GOD!

“Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.” (John 8:34)
You are proving my point, I've been reluctant to say, sorry to say, but even so, the Lord Jesus Christ saves us.

Much love!
 

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sorry to say, but even so, the Lord Jesus Christ saves us.

Sorry to say your wrong!

“But and if that servant say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken; The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers.” (Luke 12:45-46)

Read it again:

WITH THE UNBELIEVERS!!!
 

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Yes.

Grace rejectors talk about self effort and sin and only use the bible to try to find some verse that they believe teaches that they can go to hell unless they dont do whatever it is...
They are always trying to save themselves.
Always.

The born again, who understand Salvation, talk about Grace and The Cross, and are amazed by this Blood of Jesus and the Cross of Christ and the Love of God.

They write songs like this....

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1 What can wash away my sin?
Nothing but the blood of Jesus.
What can make me whole again?
Nothing but the blood of Jesus.

Refrain:
O precious is the flow
that makes me white as snow;
no other fount I know;
nothing but the blood of Jesus.

2 For my pardon this I see:
nothing but the blood of Jesus.
For my cleansing this my plea:
nothing but the blood of Jesus.

3 Nothing can for sin atone:
nothing but the blood of Jesus.
Naught of good that I have done:
nothing but the blood of Jesus.

4 This is all my hope and peace:
nothing but the blood of Jesus.
This is all my = RIGHTEOUSNESS
nothing but the blood of Jesus


As you know, I have been proclaiming “ Nothing But The Blood “ for years ( I used to be “ Blood Bought 1953” for many years)

God help any man or woman that is on the Wrong Side Of “ That” Truth!
 

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The New Testament alone speaks of sin at least 275 times.

I guess you don’t read the Bible anymore…


That New Testament also speaks about the CURE for Sin....Grace.
It’s mentioned 122 times for all of you trivia buffs....
The numbers make no difference —- The Important thing to remember is that “ Where Sin abounds, Grace Super Abounds”

It is exceedingly obvious who doesn’t “ read the Bible anymore” ....This stuff is all Christianity 101....

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again.....” Its like shooting fish in a barrel” with these Confused and probably Lost “ Accusers Of The Brethren”......
 

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“ Where Sin abounds, Grace Super Abounds”

“What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?” (Romans 6:1-2)

“…and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.” (Romans 11:20-21)

If I were you, I wouldn’t be trying to find out what “spare not thee” leads to…
 

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No.

I read and meditate on the word of God.

People who stop reading the Bible end up having a wrong, unbiblical, understanding of what sin is.

Never an “ IMPURE” thought? Hahahahahahahahahahahaah..........You are either a Liar or you are somebody that is completely Deluded—— who on EARTH do you think you are Fooling? It’s not US! And it sure as heck ain’t God!

It took some time, but you finally showed you “ True Colors” .....there’s nothing complicated about you....you just lack a brain that has any insight or Truth in it....and any sense of Honesty? Pffttt....we won’t even go there....it won’t be easy or even 100% heart- felt, but I will try to pray for you....you are worse off than I ever imagined...
 
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Never an “ IMPURE” thought? Hahahahahahahahahahahaah........

Never read this scripture?

“Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ” (2 Corinthians 10:5)
 

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“…the LORD hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep, and hath closed your eyes: the prophets and your rulers, the seers hath he covered.” (Isaiah 29:10)
 

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Never an “ IMPURE” thought?

And since you scorn me and watch for iniquity in me…

“…the terrible one is brought to nought, and the scorner is consumed, and all that watch for iniquity are cut off: That make a man an offender for a word, and lay a snare for him that reproveth in the gate, and turn aside the just for a thing of nought.” (Isaiah 29:20-21)

ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED is a thing of naught!
 

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Boy did Isaiah the prophet prophesy of this generation who love to overrule the scriptures with commentaries and love doctrines that support their sin habit:

“Woe to the rebellious children, saith the LORD, that take counsel, but not of me; and that cover with a covering, but not of my spirit, that they may add sin to sin…” (Isaiah 30:1)
 
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Never read this scripture?

“Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ” (2 Corinthians 10:5)
2 CORINTHIANS—NOTE ON 10:1–13:10 Paul’s Appeal to the Rebellious
Minority in Corinth. In the third major section of his letter, Paul directly
appeals to those who are still rejecting his gospel and apostolic authority.
For in his third visit, Paul will be forced to judge those who have not

repented (10:6; 12:20–21; 13:1–10).
2 CORINTHIANS—NOTE ON 10:1–11 Paul’s Defense of His Humility as an
Apostle. Paul directly responds to those who are criticizing his humble
appearance in Corinth (vv. 1–6) and his refusal to employ the professional
rhetoric of his day in order to impress others (vv. 7–11; see 1 Cor. 2:1–5).
2 CORINTHIANS—NOTE ON 10:1 the meekness and gentleness of Christ. A
reference to Christ’s slowness to anger and patience in order to allow time
for repentance before he returns to judge (see 2 Pet. 3:8–10), which Paul
imitates in his dealings with the Corinthians (1 Cor. 5:1–5; 2 Cor. 1:23–2:4;
7:5–16). I who am humble when … with you, but bold toward you when
I am away.

Paul is probably quoting some accusations made by his
opponents (see 10:10). Paul is trying to avoid the kind of “consistency” his
opponents call for, since it would mean judgment for the Corinthians (see
vv. 6, 11).

2 CORINTHIANS—NOTE ON 10:3–4 Paul is not waging a fleshly battle but a
spiritual one. The weapons of his warfare are not physical but spiritual,
such as prayer, the Word of God, faith, and the power of the Holy Spirit. By
the Spirit Paul tears down the strongholds of wrong thinking and behavior

that are reflected in the lives of those who resist his authority.

How to Wage Spiritual Warfare (10:1–6)
The accusation (vv. 1–2). This is not difficult to find.
The rebels in the church (led by the Judaizers) said that
Paul was very courageous when he wrote letters from a
distance, but very timid and even weak when he was
present with the Corinthians (see also 2 Cor. 10:9–11).

The Judaizers, of course, were consistently overbearing
in their attitudes—and the people loved them (2 Cor.
11:20). Paul’s “inconsistent” manner of life paralleled
his “yes and no” approach to making promises (2 Cor.
1:15–20).

When Paul founded the church at Corinth, his purpose was to exalt Christ and not himself (1 Cor.
2:1–5). Christians usually grow the way they are born.

If they are born in an atmosphere of dictatorial leadership, they grow up depending on man’s wisdom and
strength. If they are born in an atmosphere of humility
and love, they learn to depend on the Lord. Paul
wanted his converts to trust the Lord, and not the servant; so he deliberately “played down” his own
authority and ability.

How ignorant the Corinthians were, even after all
that Paul had taught them. They failed to realize that
true spiritual power is in “meekness and gentleness” (2

Cor. 10:1), not in “throwing weight around.”

Paul’s
very attitude in these opening verses disarmed his
opponents. (In fact, his use of his own name is significant; for Paul means “little.”) If Paul was a weakling,
then so was Jesus Christ; for Jesus exhibited meekness
and gentleness (Matt. 11:29). However, our Lord
could also be stern and even angry when the occasion
demanded it (see Matt. 15:1–2; 23:13–33; Mark
11:15–17; John 2:13–16).

Paul was warning them in a
loving way, “Please don’t force me to come and show
how bold I can be!”

The answer (vv. 3–6). This reveals what spiritual
warfare is all about. Because the Corinthians (led by
the false teachers) judged Paul’s ministry by the outward appearance, they completely missed the power

that was there.

They were evaluating things “according
to the flesh” (2 Cor. 10:2) and not according to the
Spirit. The Judaizers, like some “great” religious personalities today, impressed the people with their
overpowering abilities, their oratorical powers, and

their “commendations” from church leaders.


Paul took a different approach; for, though he was
as human as anyone else, he did not depend on the
human but on the divine, the spiritual weapons provided by the Lord. His warfare was not according to
the flesh, because he was not fighting against flesh and

blood (see Eph. 6:10ff.).

...as you are fighting against flesh and blood, using the Scriptures wrongfully


You cannot fight spiritual battles with carnal weapons.
The word warfare in 2 Corinthians 10:4 means
“campaign.” Paul was not simply fighting a little
skirmish in Corinth; the attack of the enemy there was
part of a large satanic campaign. The powers of hell are
still trying to destroy the work of God (Matt. 16:18),
and it is important that we not yield any ground to the
enemy, not even one church!


There are walls of resistance in the minds of people,
and these walls (like the walls of Jericho) must be pulled
down. What are these “mental walls”? Reasoning's that
are opposed to the truth of God’s Word. Pride of intelligence that exalts itself. Paul was not attacking
intelligence, but intellectualism, the high-minded attitude that makes people think they know more than they

really do (Rom. 12:16).

Paul had faced this “wisdom of
men” when he founded the church (1 Cor. 1:18ff.), and
it had surfaced again with the coming of the Judaizers.
Paul’s attitude of humility was actually one of his
strongest weapons, for pride plays right into the hands
of Satan.

The meek Son of God had far more power
than Pilate (see John 19:11), and He proved it. Paul
used spiritual weapons to tear down the opposition—
prayer, the Word of God, love, the power of the Spirit
at work in his life. He did not depend on personality,
human abilities, or even the authority he had as an
apostle. However, he was ready to punish the offenders,
if necessary, once the congregation had submitted to
the Lord.


Many believers today do not realize that the church
is involved in warfare, and those who do understand
the seriousness of the Christian battle do not always
know how to fight the battle. They try to use human
methods to defeat demonic forces, and these methods
are doomed to fail.

When Joshua and his army
marched around Jericho for a week, the spectators
thought they were mad. When the Jews trusted God
and obeyed orders, they brought down the high walls
and conquered the enemy (Josh. 6:1–20).

Just to put it in context for you.
 
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Luk 18:10 Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.

Luk 18:11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.

Luk 18:12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.

Luk 18:13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.

Luk 18:14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.

This fits you well, the Pharisee, you are all out making war against flesh and blood, when our warfare is.....
Eph 6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

J.
 
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“…the LORD hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep, and hath closed your eyes: the prophets and your rulers, the seers hath he covered.” (Isaiah 29:10)
Another scripture out of context....

For the Lord hath poured out upon you a spirit of deep sleep,.... Gave them up to a stupid frame of spirit; to a reprobate mind, a mind void of judgment and sense; to judicial blindness and hardness of heart: this was remarkably fulfilled in the Jews, in the times of Christ and his apostles, who choosing darkness rather than the light of the Gospel, which shone around them, were righteously given up to such a temper of mind; and to nothing else can be imputed their obstinate rejection of the Messiah, against the most glaring light and evidence. The Apostle Paul produces this passage, in proof of that blindness that had happened unto them in his time, Rom_11:7,
and hath closed your eyes; that is, the eyes of their understandings, so that they could not see the characters of the Messiah, and the fulfilment of prophecies in Jesus of Nazareth; nor the danger they were in, nor the ruin that was coming upon their nation, nor even when it was come, still flattering themselves with safety and deliverance:

the prophets and your rulers, the seers hath he covered; the eyes of them, as before; not only the common people were blinded, but even the Scribes and Pharisees, the elders of the people, their ecclesiastical rulers, who pretended to be seers, and to know more than others; even "for judgment", for the judicial blindness and hardness of these Christ "came, that they which see might be made blind", Joh_9:39.

The words may be rendered, "your heads, the seers, hath he covered" (t); and there may be an allusion to the covering of the head with a veil, an emblem of that veil of ignorance and infidelity which still remains upon the Jews. The Targum renders it,
"the prophets, and the Scribes, and the teachers that teach the law.''
(t) וראשיכם "et capita vestra, videntes, operuit", Montanus. So Cocceius.
Gill

You are in serious trouble.
J.
 
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@Johann

I see you picked up on the serpents tactics…

God tells Adam:

“And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.” (Genesis 2:16-17)

Then the serpent meets up with Eve to provide his commentary:

“… Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?” (Genesis 3:1)

“And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.” (Genesis 3:4-5)

And the same way that Eve:

“…saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.” (Genesis 3:6)

So to you, @Johann , when you saw those commentary books, that they were good for “food”, and that they were pleasant to the eyes, and books to be desired to make one wise, you took of the fruits thereof, and did eat.

Continue trusting your commentary books and stay in your errors if you wish…
 

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“He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me. Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.” (Mark 7:6-7)

You hypocrites continue to this day teaching for doctrines your commandments with your commentary books! You probably are incapable of just reading your Bibles without corrupting it with a secondary source!

What a sham!

“Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.” (2 Timothy 3:7-8)

You and @mailmandan are just an increase of truth resisters that will always be among us…

And as for the rest….

Crickets.
 

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“He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me. Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.” (Mark 7:6-7)

You hypocrites continue to this day teaching for doctrines your commandments with your commentary books! You probably are incapable of just reading your Bibles without corrupting it with a secondary source!

What a sham!

“Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.” (2 Timothy 3:7-8)

You and @mailmandan are just an increase of truth resisters that will always be among us…

And as for the rest….

Crickets.
You are not fooling us for one second and we see right through your deception and your hypocrisy. You are crafty like the devil and a false accuser of the brethren. It's a shame that you have nothing better to do with your time than troll Christian forum sites sowing discord, stirring up contention and perverting the gospel. All you want to do is fight, argue and judge and condemn others, yet you expect us to believe that you are sinless, 100% of the time? Give me a break! :rolleyes: You really need to find a better hobby.
 

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Boy, if commentaries were prevalent in the days of Paul the apostle I can only imagine how one of these commentary book idolaters would have responded to Paul when he quoted Habakkuk:

“Beware therefore, lest that come upon you, which is spoken of in the prophets; Behold, ye despisers, and wonder, and perish: for I work a work in your days, a work which ye shall in no wise believe, though a man declare it unto you.” (Acts 13:40-41)

Here’s a commentary that might have been thrown in Paul’s face to ridicule his use of scripture “out of context”:

Here’s the garbage:

(Expositors fair voice)

An Exposition, With Practical Observations, of​

The Prophecy of Habakkuk​

Chapter 1​

In this chapter,

  • I. The prophet complains to God of the violence done by the abuse of the sword of justice among his own people and the hardships thereby put upon many good people (v. 1-4).
  • II. God by him foretels the punishment of that abuse of power by the sword of war, and the desolations which the army of the Chaldeans should make upon them (v. 5-11).
  • III. Then the prophet complains of that too, and is grieved that the Chaldeans prevail so far (v. 12-17), so that he scarcely knows which is more to be lamented, the sin or the punishment of it, for in both many harmless good people are very great sufferers.
Hab 1:5-11

We have here an answer to the prophet's complaint, giving him assurance that, though God bore long, he would not bear always with this provoking people; for the day of vengeance was in his heart, and he must tell them so, that they might by repentance and reformation turn away the judgment they were threatened with.

  • I. The preamble to the sentence is very awful (v. 5): Behold, you among the heathen, and regard.Since they will not be brought to repentance by the long-suffering of God, he will take another course with them. No resentments are so keen, so deep, as those of abused patience. The Lord will inflict upon them,
    • 1. A public punishment, which shall be beheld and regarded among the heathen, which the neighbouring nations shall take notice of and stand amazed at; see Deu. 29:24, 25. This will aggravate the desolations of Israel, that they will thereby be made a spectacle to the world.
    • 2. An amazing punishment, so strange and surprising, and so much out of the common road of Providence, that it shall not be paralleled among the heathen, shall be sorer and heavier than what God has usually inflicted upon the nations that know him not; nay, it shall not be credited even by those that had the prediction of it from God before it comes, or the report of it from those that were eye-witnesses of it when it comes: You will not believe it, though it be told you; it will be thought incredible that so many judgments should combine in one, and every circumstance so strangely concur to enforce and aggravate it, that so great and potent a nation should be so reduced and broken, and that God should deal so severely with a people that had been taken into the bond of the covenant and that he had done so much for. The punishment of God's professing people cannot but be the astonishment of all about them.
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(Don’t you feel as intelligent and intellectual as the commentary writer now?)

“For ye suffer fools gladly, seeing ye yourselves are wise.” (2 Corinthians 11:19)
 
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