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Christianity is not only one of the most evil religions ever dreamed up, it’s also by far the stupidest. Christianity has all the clarity of a cement block, and does that ever show. There’s a reason there are so damn many types of christianity, all of them at war with the rest. Each and every brand of christianity, over 33,000 of them, are absolutely positive they are the real, true christians. Christians happily plug up their brains about this, lacking the courage to address this big ol’ elephant in the room. If “christianity” is the real, true religion, why in the hell can’t you all agree on just what constitutes christian belief? Why the constant infighting and outfighting? Why are there always corpses on the ground when christians decide to fight over real, true christianity? The constant infighting is always on display, too. Every time I’m traveling home from town, I pass a billboard with “REAL Christians believe in Jesus’s teachings” with a phone number. Still doesn’t sink into all those brains pickled in Jesus juice, ever terrified of actual thinking.
 

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Your claims are utterly foolish. And sad as that is, you have accomplished to make me laugh at your repetitive foolishness.

It is a LIE for you to say I denied Christ comes as a thief in the night....
IF you were HONEST, you could QUOTE ME making that claim.

Since I said no such thing....you can NOT quote me saying that...
which reveals your DISHONESTY.

OK: let us put your claims to the test: is His coming climactic and accompanied by the sudden destruction of all the wicked and they shall not escape? Are the heavens, elements, earth and works that are therein dissolved when He comes?
 

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Yipes....
I am quite familiar with what Scripture (using a word you seem to LIKE....aka LITERALLY) says...your commentary on MEANING is suspect.

The two witnesses (rev 12:11) are NEVER called “Christians”.

Rev 14:1 is NOT a reference to “Christians”. They are the Tribes of ISRAEL!

Do you even KNOW it was an UNBELIEVER who coined the term Christian?

Not news....God began APPOINTING “mortal Priests” ... Beginning with Aaron....and mortal kings over the kingdom of ISRAEL, Beginning with Saul.

Are you hoping God will appoint you, (a mortal), to be a king, or priest, during the Tribulation? Or perhaps during Christ’s 1,000 year reign.? Or perhaps in Gods Restored new world?

There you go again. More avoidance. You cherry-pick one thing in a vain attempt to support your extra-biblical theory invented by Jesuits.

Where is your rapture in Revelation?
 

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You are an ignorant, arrogant nasty piece of work.
No true lover of the word of God Gags at it and acts like you do towards those who are reaching out to you.

May Gods light shine upon you and humble you.

Speaking of ignorant, You are the one who confused Gods Word with your own words.
....You think your gagging words is you reaching out to me...keep your words for yourself.
....You and I have a difference in Beliefs. If you think me holding to my beliefs is arrogant, so what? If you think name-calling verifies your beliefs, it doesn’t.

Rolleyes
 

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OK: let us put your claims to the test: is His coming climactic and accompanied by the sudden destruction of all the wicked and they shall not escape? Are the heavens, elements, earth and works that are therein dissolved when He comes?

To be on target with MY claims...

My claims....answered your 8 questions YES, I am in agreement with Scriptures you quoted.

My claims...is you speaking for me is errorounous.

My claims...is your commentary of what things mean is suspect.

My claims...is your name calling is laughable.
 

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There you go again. More avoidance. You cherry-pick one thing in a vain attempt to support your extra-biblical theory invented by Jesuits.

Where is your rapture in Revelation?

Yes I can choose to cherry pick and respond.
No that is not called in vain....lol
Yes what I said was a fact.
Uh no. Jesuits have nothing to do with Gods two witnesses, NOT being called Christians....lol

The Lords Rapture is not “IN” Revelations.

The Lords Rapture is FOR those already MADE whole.

The Teaching in Revelations is FOR MAKING men whole, WHO desire to be MADE whole...and Destroying the Corrupt, WHO desire to remain corrupt.
 

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OK: let us put your claims to the test: is His coming climactic and accompanied by the sudden destruction of all the wicked and they shall not escape? Are the heavens, elements, earth and works that are therein dissolved when He comes?

You TRY so HARD with your “non specific terms” and “plethora of accusations” you MISS the FACTS!!!

Every man IS an “Individual”.
Every “individual” man SHALL BE “accountable” FOR that which he BELIEVES.....AND.....DOES.....AND DOES NOT BELIEVE....AND DOES NOT DO.

You say......”HIS coming”........His, He......WHO? Non specific!
You say......”His COMING”.....His COMING...From WHERE TO WHERE?
Non-specific!

Gods ORDER and WAY!!

PERSPECTIVE!!

Every man ACCORDING TO Gods ORDER and WAY!!!


You have REDUCED to YOUR one-liner, when “HE” (non-specific) COMES, (from to non-specific); the Wicked are Destroyed and the Earth dissolved.
^^ That is Deceptive.

Do not FORGET....
God IS Spirit. God IS Invisible to a human mans eyes.
God IS Omnipresent, Omnipotent, Omniscient

Do not FORGET...
God IS Creator......AND MAKER.
God Created “Very Good”....The “Very Good” BECAME CORRUPT.
God IS Merciful....
God has OFFERED...every man the OPTION to exercise his OWN FREEWILL, and FREELY CHOOSE....by, through, of THE POWER OF GOD....for ANY WILLING MAN.......TO BE MADE WHOLE...(body, soul, spirit).
* Christ IS the Power of God.

Do not FORGET...
Individual men HAVE FREEWILL.
Individual men EXERCISE their own FREEWILL,WHEN THEY CHOOSE to do so
God DOES NOT CHOOSE FOR men, NOR MAKE men CHOOSE “HIM”!

Do not FORGET...
WHENEVER an individual man FREELY chooses TO BELIEVE, in God, in Jesus, The Spirit of God IS WITH THAT MAN....
THAT MAN IS “STILL” subject to MORTAL mens Persecutions.
THAT MAN “SHALL” BE comforted By the Lord God.
THAT MAN IS “STILL” subject to Gods Wrath and Tribulations which come down from Heaven upon the Earth.

Do not FORGET...
Gods ORDER and WAY...

BELIEF is a BEGINNING. Any man who bodily dies IN BELIEF, shall THEREAFTER BE SAVED.

Do not FORGET....
WHENEVER an individual man FREELY chooses to BELIEVE.....AND Heartfully CONFESSES his TRUE BELIEF......
THAT man “SHALL BE BAPTIZED WITH the Holy Spirit of God.
THAT man “IS MADE WHOLE” once AND FOREVER.
THAT man IS “STILL” subject to MORTAL mens Persecutions.
THAT man SHALL be comforted by the Lord God.
THAT man “IS NOT” subject to Gods Wrath and Tribulations which come down from Heaven upon the Earth.

Gods ORDER and WAY.
Every Individual man...ACCORDING TO what he BELIEVES and DOES.

The COMING of the Son of Man, COMING of the Son of God, COMING of the Power of God, COMING of the Holy Spirit of God, COMING of Lord, COMING of the DEVIL, COMING of the TWO witnesses of God, COMING of the Lamb of God, COMING of 144,000 Virgin Tribesmen of Israel, COMING of the Son of Man, COMING of Christ, COMING of the Lord God Almighty....

IN PERSPECTIVE...According TO Gods ORDER and WAY the Lord God’s COMING....IS notification OF WHAT GOD HIMSELF IS DOING ....
REGARDING...VERY SPECIFIC “INDIVIDUAL men” !!

Gods LAST DAYS WRATH and TRIBULATION sent DOWN from HEAVEN...
IS SPECIFICALLY .... (SAME as in the days of Noah...aka Gods FIRST Great Wrath and Tribulation sent down from Heaven) .... TO PUNISH ALL men upon the Face of the EARTH.......FOR REJECTING the Lord God Almighty...
AND....to FULFILL Gods PROMISE to SAVE “HIS FAITHFUL PEOPLE...ISRAEL”!


Oh, oh....AND NOAH along with 7 others were SAVED....BECAUSE GOD CAUSED those 8 TO BE LIFTED UP ABOVE the face of the earth, GOD WAS DESTROYING!

Nothing new under the sun!
What WAS, shall be again.!

Learn the TRUTH before you preach against the Truth and against those who hold in the TRUTH.



 

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To be on target with MY claims...

My claims....answered your 8 questions YES, I am in agreement with Scriptures you quoted.

My claims...is you speaking for me is errorounous.

My claims...is your commentary of what things mean is suspect.

My claims...is your name calling is laughable.

So you agree with me that Pretrib and Premil are erroneous? They are fighting Scripture to have billions of wicked surviving the coming of Christ, prospering after that, and inheriting a future millennial earth? I agree!
 

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Yes I can choose to cherry pick and respond.
No that is not called in vain....lol
Yes what I said was a fact.
Uh no. Jesuits have nothing to do with Gods two witnesses, NOT being called Christians....lol

The Lords Rapture is not “IN” Revelations.

The Lords Rapture is FOR those already MADE whole.

The Teaching in Revelations is FOR MAKING men whole, WHO desire to be MADE whole...and Destroying the Corrupt, WHO desire to remain corrupt.

Ok, we are finally getting places. So, there is no rapture in Revelation. Agreed? Where is your 7-years trib in Revelation. Please quote actual text.
 

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You TRY so HARD with your “non specific terms” and “plethora of accusations” you MISS the FACTS!!!

Every man IS an “Individual”.
Every “individual” man SHALL BE “accountable” FOR that which he BELIEVES.....AND.....DOES.....AND DOES NOT BELIEVE....AND DOES NOT DO.

You say......”HIS coming”........His, He......WHO? Non specific!
You say......”His COMING”.....His COMING...From WHERE TO WHERE?
Non-specific!

Gods ORDER and WAY!!

PERSPECTIVE!!

Every man ACCORDING TO Gods ORDER and WAY!!!


You have REDUCED to YOUR one-liner, when “HE” (non-specific) COMES, (from to non-specific); the Wicked are Destroyed and the Earth dissolved.
^^ That is Deceptive.

Do not FORGET....
God IS Spirit. God IS Invisible to a human mans eyes.
God IS Omnipresent, Omnipotent, Omniscient

Do not FORGET...
God IS Creator......AND MAKER.
God Created “Very Good”....The “Very Good” BECAME CORRUPT.
God IS Merciful....
God has OFFERED...every man the OPTION to exercise his OWN FREEWILL, and FREELY CHOOSE....by, through, of THE POWER OF GOD....for ANY WILLING MAN.......TO BE MADE WHOLE...(body, soul, spirit).
* Christ IS the Power of God.

Do not FORGET...
Individual men HAVE FREEWILL.
Individual men EXERCISE their own FREEWILL,WHEN THEY CHOOSE to do so
God DOES NOT CHOOSE FOR men, NOR MAKE men CHOOSE “HIM”!

Do not FORGET...
WHENEVER an individual man FREELY chooses TO BELIEVE, in God, in Jesus, The Spirit of God IS WITH THAT MAN....
THAT MAN IS “STILL” subject to MORTAL mens Persecutions.
THAT MAN “SHALL” BE comforted By the Lord God.
THAT MAN IS “STILL” subject to Gods Wrath and Tribulations which come down from Heaven upon the Earth.

Do not FORGET...
Gods ORDER and WAY...

BELIEF is a BEGINNING. Any man who bodily dies IN BELIEF, shall THEREAFTER BE SAVED.

Do not FORGET....
WHENEVER an individual man FREELY chooses to BELIEVE.....AND Heartfully CONFESSES his TRUE BELIEF......
THAT man “SHALL BE BAPTIZED WITH the Holy Spirit of God.
THAT man “IS MADE WHOLE” once AND FOREVER.
THAT man IS “STILL” subject to MORTAL mens Persecutions.
THAT man SHALL be comforted by the Lord God.
THAT man “IS NOT” subject to Gods Wrath and Tribulations which come down from Heaven upon the Earth.

Gods ORDER and WAY.
Every Individual man...ACCORDING TO what he BELIEVES and DOES.

The COMING of the Son of Man, COMING of the Son of God, COMING of the Power of God, COMING of the Holy Spirit of God, COMING of Lord, COMING of the DEVIL, COMING of the TWO witnesses of God, COMING of the Lamb of God, COMING of 144,000 Virgin Tribesmen of Israel, COMING of the Son of Man, COMING of Christ, COMING of the Lord God Almighty....

IN PERSPECTIVE...According TO Gods ORDER and WAY the Lord God’s COMING....IS notification OF WHAT GOD HIMSELF IS DOING ....
REGARDING...VERY SPECIFIC “INDIVIDUAL men” !!

Gods LAST DAYS WRATH and TRIBULATION sent DOWN from HEAVEN...
IS SPECIFICALLY .... (SAME as in the days of Noah...aka Gods FIRST Great Wrath and Tribulation sent down from Heaven) .... TO PUNISH ALL men upon the Face of the EARTH.......FOR REJECTING the Lord God Almighty...
AND....to FULFILL Gods PROMISE to SAVE “HIS FAITHFUL PEOPLE...ISRAEL”!


Oh, oh....AND NOAH along with 7 others were SAVED....BECAUSE GOD CAUSED those 8 TO BE LIFTED UP ABOVE the face of the earth, GOD WAS DESTROYING!

Nothing new under the sun!
What WAS, shall be again.!

Learn the TRUTH before you preach against the Truth and against those who hold in the TRUTH.




I skim these meandering and evasive posts you write. They do not make sense.

So, what happened to all the wicked that were not on the ark?
 

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No, the Earth is not Destroyed when the Son of Man Returns.
No, the Earth is not Destroyed when Christ Returns.
The Lord gathers Christ’s Church UP to Him FROM Earth TO the Clouds.
The Lamb sends to Earth His Wrath and Tribulations.
The Lamb sends out Satan, his minions, with great powers.
Satan roams about making False anti-God promises of peace.
Satan claims to be God.
Satan faces mortals who reject him.
Satan Makes war, death, destruction upon the Earth and Mortals Against him.
Gods sends two witnesses (with powers) for JEWS in Jerusalem.
God summons ISREAL tribes to Mt Zion.
God sends the Lamb and 144,000 ISRAEL tribesmen to Preach to ISRAEL.
Gods Faithful PEOPLE ISRAEL are saved.
Satan Kills, wars, destroys mortals, Against him.
The Son of Man, is seen (by ALL) sitting on a White Cloud.
The Son of Man, REAPS the Earth, Killing the anti-Gods, KEEPING ALIVE,
A REMNANT of BELIEVING but non-converted MORTALS.

* The Son of Man, WITH POWER (ie Christ)...AND WITH His host of Saints....
(Holy Angels, SAVED and QUICKENED men of old, SAVED and QUICKENED men Baptized IN Christ (Christ’s Church)...ALL RETURN TO EARTH.

* Christ the Lord Jesus...RETURNS “WITH” His Title...King OF kings, Lord OF lords....TO His Kingdom...TO His Governing Throne....”WITH” His Saints who are HIS anointed Priests.

* He Governs OVER the REMNANT of Believing mortals, (FOR 1,000 years) of kings, lords, people establishing new nations.

* His “immortal saints /anointed Priests”... are ministers unto the BELIEVING REMNANT “mortals”.

* Do not forget, MEN having been MADE “immortal”, do not become “angels”, however do become “LIKE angels”....And “angels” ARE created spirits, and spirits HAVE the POWER to appear “in the LIKENESS as earthy mortal men”, that “earthly moral men can see”.

* The “kings” of the BELIEVING world nations, are opted to MAKE a yearly pilgrimage to Jerusalem to HEAR the Word of God, From the Word of God Himself...

* Nothing new. All mortals who LIVE, MUST die a mortal Death. So yes, in the mortal kingdoms, mortals will be naturally born, live, work, eat, sleep, reproduce mortals, fall down and get boo boos, cry, be sad when others die, mourn, bury them, believe, convert, and BE raised up BY God After Christ’s millennial reign....and Judged along with everyone else.

* AT THE END of Christ’s millennial Reign...(not the beginning, not during, but at the END!) Satan and his minions are LOOSED from Bondage.

* Again Satan roams with Great Power and “his expertise Crafty, Cunning Ability to DECEIVE”....and infiltrates every MORTAL nation on Earth.
Nothing new. Men LISTEN, Men CONSIDER, Men DISCUSS with other men.
Nothing new. Mortal men are WEAK, lies and false promises tickles their ears, and THEY will push and shove and clamor to be first in line, in their GREEDY HOPES to receive the False Promises.

* WHOOPS...nothing new...kings become corrupt, kings establish armies, kings force men into battle, SOME people are in bewilderment...divided...standing with the KING (Christ), other with their king (a mortal)....

* AND....corrupted mortal kings, and corrupted mortal men....ARE Satan influenced TO ATTACK KING Christ Jesus’ Earthly Kingdom.

* BUMMER...

* oh, oh, oh....WAIT....LOOKING HERE...AFTER Christ Jesus’ 1,000 years reign..........ALL MORTALS upon the face of the EARTH....coming AGAINST Christ’s Earthly Kingdom.....GOD IN HEAVEN DEVOURS THEM WITH FIRE.

* OOPS, that is NOT what YOU TEACH.


* Rev 20:
9] And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
[10] And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

[11] And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
(No place for the THEM, the anti-God’s ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH)

God reveals KNOWLEDGE, bit by bit, according to His ORDER and WAY.
God Saves INDIVIDUAL mortals, time by time, according to His ORDER and WAY.
God Destroys INDIVIDUAL mortals, time by time, according to His ORDER and WAY.

Gods SAV-ED are NOT appointed to SUFFER Gods Wrath and Tribulations.
Gods SAV-ED mortals “IN” Christ, receive appointments AS anointed Priests,
Those “IN” Christ ARE Servants of Christ’s Earthly Kingdom, and SERVE Christ according to His WORD.

Glory to God...
 

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No, the Earth is not Destroyed when the Son of Man Returns.
No, the Earth is not Destroyed when Christ Returns.
The Lord gathers Christ’s Church UP to Him FROM Earth TO the Clouds.
The Lamb sends to Earth His Wrath and Tribulations.
The Lamb sends out Satan, his minions, with great powers.
Satan roams about making False anti-God promises of peace.
Satan claims to be God.
Satan faces mortals who reject him.
Satan Makes war, death, destruction upon the Earth and Mortals Against him.
Gods sends two witnesses (with powers) for JEWS in Jerusalem.
God summons ISREAL tribes to Mt Zion.
God sends the Lamb and 144,000 ISRAEL tribesmen to Preach to ISRAEL.
Gods Faithful PEOPLE ISRAEL are saved.
Satan Kills, wars, destroys mortals, Against him.
The Son of Man, is seen (by ALL) sitting on a White Cloud.
The Son of Man, REAPS the Earth, Killing the anti-Gods, KEEPING ALIVE,
A REMNANT of BELIEVING but non-converted MORTALS.

* The Son of Man, WITH POWER (ie Christ)...AND WITH His host of Saints....
(Holy Angels, SAVED and QUICKENED men of old, SAVED and QUICKENED men Baptized IN Christ (Christ’s Church)...ALL RETURN TO EARTH.

* Christ the Lord Jesus...RETURNS “WITH” His Title...King OF kings, Lord OF lords....TO His Kingdom...TO His Governing Throne....”WITH” His Saints who are HIS anointed Priests.

* He Governs OVER the REMNANT of Believing mortals, (FOR 1,000 years) of kings, lords, people establishing new nations.

* His “immortal saints /anointed Priests”... are ministers unto the BELIEVING REMNANT “mortals”.

* Do not forget, MEN having been MADE “immortal”, do not become “angels”, however do become “LIKE angels”....And “angels” ARE created spirits, and spirits HAVE the POWER to appear “in the LIKENESS as earthy mortal men”, that “earthly moral men can see”.

* The “kings” of the BELIEVING world nations, are opted to MAKE a yearly pilgrimage to Jerusalem to HEAR the Word of God, From the Word of God Himself...

* Nothing new. All mortals who LIVE, MUST die a mortal Death. So yes, in the mortal kingdoms, mortals will be naturally born, live, work, eat, sleep, reproduce mortals, fall down and get boo boos, cry, be sad when others die, mourn, bury them, believe, convert, and BE raised up BY God After Christ’s millennial reign....and Judged along with everyone else.

* AT THE END of Christ’s millennial Reign...(not the beginning, not during, but at the END!) Satan and his minions are LOOSED from Bondage.

* Again Satan roams with Great Power and “his expertise Crafty, Cunning Ability to DECEIVE”....and infiltrates every MORTAL nation on Earth.
Nothing new. Men LISTEN, Men CONSIDER, Men DISCUSS with other men.
Nothing new. Mortal men are WEAK, lies and false promises tickles their ears, and THEY will push and shove and clamor to be first in line, in their GREEDY HOPES to receive the False Promises.

* WHOOPS...nothing new...kings become corrupt, kings establish armies, kings force men into battle, SOME people are in bewilderment...divided...standing with the KING (Christ), other with their king (a mortal)....

* AND....corrupted mortal kings, and corrupted mortal men....ARE Satan influenced TO ATTACK KING Christ Jesus’ Earthly Kingdom.

* BUMMER...

* oh, oh, oh....WAIT....LOOKING HERE...AFTER Christ Jesus’ 1,000 years reign..........ALL MORTALS upon the face of the EARTH....coming AGAINST Christ’s Earthly Kingdom.....GOD IN HEAVEN DEVOURS THEM WITH FIRE.

* OOPS, that is NOT what YOU TEACH.


* Rev 20:
9] And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
[10] And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

[11] And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
(No place for the THEM, the anti-God’s ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH)

God reveals KNOWLEDGE, bit by bit, according to His ORDER and WAY.
God Saves INDIVIDUAL mortals, time by time, according to His ORDER and WAY.
God Destroys INDIVIDUAL mortals, time by time, according to His ORDER and WAY.

Gods SAV-ED are NOT appointed to SUFFER Gods Wrath and Tribulations.
Gods SAV-ED mortals “IN” Christ, receive appointments AS anointed Priests,
Those “IN” Christ ARE Servants of Christ’s Earthly Kingdom, and SERVE Christ according to His WORD.

Glory to God...

There you go again, contradicting yourself again. You are contradicting everything you just argued. Remember, others are watching on. They can see your constant U-turns. This is what you do! You are fighting with yourself. It seems like you do not know what you believe. You are talking out of both sides of your mouth at the one time.

Come back to me when you find out what you really believe.
 
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Matt: 16:
[28] Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.

Matt.24

[27] For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

[30] And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

[37] But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

[39] And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Matt.26
[64] Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.

Mark.13
[26] And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.

Mark.14
[62] And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.

Luke.21

[26] Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

[27] And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

Luke.23

[25] Verily, Verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.

1Cor.15

[23] But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

1Thes.3

[13] To the end he may stablish your hears unblameable in holiness before God, even our Father, at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all his saints.

1 Thes.4

[15] For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

1Thes.5

[23] And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

2Thes.2

[1] Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

[8] And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

[9] Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

1Pet.2

[4] To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious,

2Pet.3

[12] Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

The UNDERSTANDING of Gods WORD IS given men WHO Believe Gods WORD (as it IS), and such men WHO heartfully CONFESS their BELIEF.

Twisting Gods WORD of KNOWLEDGE....OUT OF GODS ORDER...IS NOT GODS WAY.

GOD DOES NOT punish and send His Wrath upon men that which HE HAS MADE WHOLE.
GOD HAS PROVIDED and OFFERED every man IN his own order, A WAY, to Forever BE WITH God....
GOD HAS PROVIDED and OFFERED A WAY, for every man IN his own order, TO ESCAPE GODS WRATH.
GOD HAS PREPARED every man WITH Him An Express PLACE of Peace and Comfort.
GOD HAS PREPARED every man WITH AND IN HIM An Express PROMISE to NEVER Leave that man.


GOD HAS PREPARED and PROVIDED and GIVEN His Son Title, Power and Authority OF and FOR His own Earthly Kingdom WHILE mortals still occupy the Earth, VOID of Satan’s Presence ON the Earth.

GOD PREPARES all MORTALS, according to HIS ORDER and WAY.

It matters NOT if any mortal KNOWS Gods Order and Way, BELIEVES Gods Order and Way, UNDERSTANDS Gods Order and Way, AGREES with Gods Order and Way...........Gods Order and Way, SHALL BE DONE.


Glory to God...
 

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So you agree with me that Pretrib and Premil are erroneous? They are fighting Scripture to have billions of wicked surviving the coming of Christ, prospering after that, and inheriting a future millennial earth? I agree!

IF and WHEN I should EVER AGREE WITH YOU... YOU WILL KNOW BY MY WORD.....NOT by, through, of your imagination and words.
But don’t hold your breath...doesn’t appear likely to happen.


Again...YOU should ACTUALLY read, learn, study, to show yourself approved IN Gods WORD...

WHY CONTINUE making up LIES?...
No one has said
....BILLIONS of wicked....or even ONE wicked...SURVIVE the Coming of Christ.

Christ DOES NOT COME before the Son of Man....duh!
Human EYES CAN NOT SEE “CHRIST...He is SPIRIT”....duh!
It is the Son of Man ALL MEN CAN SEE.....duh!
AFTER the Jews, Israel IS SAVED....fulfilling Gods Promise....
AFTER Satan has given power and authority to REEK havoc on the EARTH...
THEN does a SINGLE HOLY ANGEL Preach the Gospel to the WHOLE world.
THEN shall MANY remaining mortals CONFESS Heartful BELIEF.
THEN shall a REMNANT BELIEVE, but NOT CONFESS.
THEN does the Son of Man APPEAR in the air ON A WHITE CLOUD.
(Are you aware....clouds are NOT EARTH)...duh!
THEN is the Son of Man SEEN BY ALL....duh!
THEN does the Son of MAN REAP THE EARTH....
(SEPARATING, CLAIMING, The CONVERTED....SAVING THEM)...duh!
setting ASIDE His REMNANT...of non-converted mortal BELIEVERS!
THEN does GOD UNLEASH, His Plagues, Wrath, Vengeance, UPON the NON BELIEVERS on the face of the earth, kill them, and the Birds Feast on their dead body’s.
THEN does the Son of Man, THE KING, WITH POWER (Christ) and WITH His Saints TAKE occupancy of HIS Kingdom, of His Throne....
THeN does the mortal REMNANT.........BELIEVERS.....
(NOT WICKED MEN AS YOU FALSELY TEACH)...
Begin establishing kings and kingdoms upon the face of the Earth.

ONE thousand years PASS...
Satan is LOOSED...
Satan again DECEIVES mortal nations.

Satan and evil Spirits are overcome, SENT TO the PITS of HELL for eternity.
THE DECEIVED mortals are DEVOURED BY FIRE that GOD SENDS DOWN FROM HEAVEN...
(NOT what you falsely teach).

God RESTORES the WHOLE Earth.
God SENDS down the Holy City of Lights, Jerusalem.
ONLY the men, MADE WHOLE...body, soul, spirit....OCCUPY the earth, which has been MADE as it is IN HEAVEN...
THE WHOLE of HEAVEN and EARTH...Gods Kingdom.
AND the Lord God Almighty, IS their God, IS seen by them.


Your repetitive false preaching, is of no advantage, or honor unto you.
 

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I skim these meandering and evasive posts you write. They do not make sense.

So, what happened to all the wicked that were not on the ark?

What I say is not evasive.

It is on point with Gods Word.

Your gagging, implying I agree with you, snarky comments, etc....’I react between laughing and ignoring.”

You skimming, not verifying, IS TYPICAL of a lazy man who delights in his own understanding, not interested in Gods Truth OR Gods Understanding.

You saying what I write does not make sense to you....IS TYPICAL of a man who knows NOT the TRUTH of God, nor UNDERSTANDS Gods Word according to GODS UNDERSTANDING.

God TRUTHS ARE SPIRITUAL. A man TRYING to Understand Gods TRUTHS with his CARNAL LOGICAL THINKING MIND.......IS A FAIL.

Don’t you KNOW, atheists can NOT BELIEVE....because THEY are solely depending on their CARNAL MIND to understand God WHO IS SPIRIT?

Don’t you KNOW, mortal men CAN NOT understand according to Gods Understanding.........UNTIL AFTER they are MADE “whole”...body, soul, spirit?

Don’t you KNOW....God “changing”...”making” a man WHOLE....is NEVER TAUGHT.....God Changes a mans CARNAL MIND! ?

Don’t you KNOW....CARNAL MINDS...ARE AGAINST GOD?

Don’t you KNOW...Gods SPIRITUAL WAY...is NOT suppose to MAKE “LOGICAL” sense to a mortal mans Natural Carnal Mind?

It is NOT Carnally Mindful for mortal men to LOGICALLY with their senses....TO BELIEVE in A GOD...
* They can NOT...see, hear, smell, taste, touch!!!

Don’t you KNOW....God does NOT ask mortal men TO CONFESS THEIR BELIEF IN HIM.......by, through, of or according to the THOUGHTS in a mortal mans CARNAL MIND?

Men DISCUSSING Spiritual things.....according to their mortal CARNAL MINDS, is a teaching of PHILOSOPHERS, and WARNED AGAINST by the Word of God.

You have made clear, what I say, makes no SENSE to you.
It’s not supposed to makes sense to a Carnal Mind!

You have made clear, you skim, AVOID hearing...and thus DO NOT search the Scriptures to verify what you hear.

I speak with INTENT to be VERY SPECIFIC because of my own specific background of TEACHING TO people, WITHOUT your advantage....OF them HAVING ability to physically HEAR... And seriously, And amazingly, THE DEAF Have a great eagerness to hear, learn, read and VERIFY in Scripture....
Unlike a great many of the advantaged Hearing folks, you included.
 

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There you go again, contradicting yourself again. You are contradicting everything you just argued. Remember, others are watching on. They can see your constant U-turns. This is what you do! You are fighting with yourself. It seems like you do not know what you believe. You are talking out of both sides of your mouth at the one time.

Come back to me when you find out what you really believe.

No, I have not contradicted myself.

TRUE, your Carnal Minded Understanding is FAILING you.
TRUE, your Snarky accusations are old and boring.

Here is SCRIPTURE you might consider...

Rom 8:
[7] Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

AND the Apostles themselves...were DELIGHTED when THEY DISCOVERED HOW TO OBTAIN Gods Spiritual Understanding, and prayed that OTHERS MIGHT GAIN the same.

Col 1:
[9] For this cause we also, since the day we heard it, do not cease to pray for you, and to desire that ye might be filled with the knowledge of his will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding;

You have been told, Yet you respond being hell bent on remaining in Carnal Minded ... against Gods teaching...and against those who teach Gods teaching.

Psssst, IFY, I am not the only one who notices...
 

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What I say is not evasive.

It is on point with Gods Word.

Your gagging, implying I agree with you, snarky comments, etc....’I react between laughing and ignoring.”

You skimming, not verifying, IS TYPICAL of a lazy man who delights in his own understanding, not interested in Gods Truth OR Gods Understanding.

You saying what I write does not make sense to you....IS TYPICAL of a man who knows NOT the TRUTH of God, nor UNDERSTANDS Gods Word according to GODS UNDERSTANDING.

God TRUTHS ARE SPIRITUAL. A man TRYING to Understand Gods TRUTHS with his CARNAL LOGICAL THINKING MIND.......IS A FAIL.

Don’t you KNOW, atheists can NOT BELIEVE....because THEY are solely depending on their CARNAL MIND to understand God WHO IS SPIRIT?

Don’t you KNOW, mortal men CAN NOT understand according to Gods Understanding.........UNTIL AFTER they are MADE “whole”...body, soul, spirit?

Don’t you KNOW....God “changing”...”making” a man WHOLE....is NEVER TAUGHT.....God Changes a mans CARNAL MIND! ?

Don’t you KNOW....CARNAL MINDS...ARE AGAINST GOD?

Don’t you KNOW...Gods SPIRITUAL WAY...is NOT suppose to MAKE “LOGICAL” sense to a mortal mans Natural Carnal Mind?

It is NOT Carnally Mindful for mortal men to LOGICALLY with their senses....TO BELIEVE in A GOD...
* They can NOT...see, hear, smell, taste, touch!!!

Don’t you KNOW....God does NOT ask mortal men TO CONFESS THEIR BELIEF IN HIM.......by, through, of or according to the THOUGHTS in a mortal mans CARNAL MIND?

Men DISCUSSING Spiritual things.....according to their mortal CARNAL MINDS, is a teaching of PHILOSOPHERS, and WARNED AGAINST by the Word of God.

You have made clear, what I say, makes no SENSE to you.
It’s not supposed to makes sense to a Carnal Mind!

You have made clear, you skim, AVOID hearing...and thus DO NOT search the Scriptures to verify what you hear.

I speak with INTENT to be VERY SPECIFIC because of my own specific background of TEACHING TO people, WITHOUT your advantage....OF them HAVING ability to physically HEAR... And seriously, And amazingly, THE DEAF Have a great eagerness to hear, learn, read and VERIFY in Scripture....
Unlike a great many of the advantaged Hearing folks, you included.

So, what happened to all the wicked that were not on the ark?
 

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I skim these meandering and evasive posts you write. They do not make sense.

So, what happened to all the wicked that were not on the ark?

Noah, plus 7 others....ENTERED the ARK SEVEN DAYS BEFORE;
the first drop of rain fell.

God SHUT the door to the ark.

God SENT DOWN from Heaven, His Tribulations, Wrath, Destruction upon the face of the Earth.

RAIN from Heaven Fell.

Water from UNDER the Earth was released.

ALL on the FACE of the EARTH, Were drowned, killed, dead.

ALL the SAVED IN the ark were RISEN UP Above the Face of the Earth.

ALL the SAVED IN the ark were RISEN UP “SO” High, above the mountain tops, they were “IN” the CLOUDS.


ONCE GOD restored the EARTH...(you do know Earth IS DRY LAND...eh?)
God RETURNED the ARK and the SAVED, TO the Earth.

Nothing NEW, what WAS shall be Again.

According to Gods Understanding and Wisdom.

IF you are amiss in Gods Understanding and Wisdom....

The “SEVEN” before Gods tribulation will mean nothing to you.
The SAVED “IN” the ARK will mean nothing to you.
God SHUTTING “the DOOR”, will mean nothing to you.
God “LIFTING above the Earth” to the CLOUDS His SAVED, will mean nothing to you.
God “DESTROYING the EARTH” and the Wicked upon the FACE of the Earth, will mean nothing to you.
God “RETURNING the ARK WITH the SAVED” to Earth, will mean nothing to you.
God “RESTORING” the Earth, will mean nothing to you.
God “WITH” His people forever, will mean nothing to you.

If you do not know OR understand what was...nor will you know or understand what shall be.