Exactly. I no longer believe it is merely indoctrination and reading comprehension but point blank intellectual dishonesty...
Well, regarding non-trinitarians, it's actually all three ~ indoctrination, reading miscomprehension, and intellectual dishonesty ~ to varying degrees.
...anything to rationalize the man-is-god thesis.
Total non sequitur. "Man is God thesis"? Pish. A total mischaracterization, and demagoguery. No,
God made man:
"The Word became flesh and dwelt among us" (John 1:14), and
"(t)hough in the form of God, (Christ Jesus) emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men... (a)nd being found in human form, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross" (Philippians 2:5-8). This is Scripture. There is nothing to rationalize; it is what it is.
Such passion for it, folks like PinSeeker fail to realize IF he is correct that 2 modify the one antecedent, a trinity does not make. How is a desperate trinitarian to handle that?
LOL! One should not even attempt to handle something so totally nonsensical as what you have in red bolded text here. We're just talking about language structure, and the fact that two different appositive phrases can most certainly modify a common antecedent.
There is no "synthesis," artificial or otherwise. It is what it is.
We'll just tack on the HS at the end.
Taking other passages into account, it is what it is.
No one even knows his name anyway.
Oh, we do... YHVH. :) We can gather that from Genesis 1, when God refers to Himself ~ Father (undisputed), Son (John 1), and Holy Spirit (Genesis 1:2) ~ as "Us" and "Our" in Genesis 1:26... the three Persons of the Godhead were all present and participating in the act of Creation. And we know the Holy Spirit's role and what He does, and His relation to the Father and the Son (John 14). :)
And this goes back to their "implications" which rest on merely 'possible' interpretations...
No, they are inevitable and necessary facts based on things we are explicitly told by God via His Holy Spirit.
Simple poetic way to express producing life. Not mystical dualism.
LOL! It's... not about procreation (if that's what you're somehow trying to say). The two lives, two persons ~ already exist, for sure, but in marriage, which is the subject of both the Genesis 2 and Ephesians 5 passages, the two are to become one flesh, so we have to try to understand what that truly means. Paul, in Ephesians 5, gives us a pretty good idea what truly being two persons yet one flesh is about in giving men instructions as husbands...
"...love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave Himself up for her, that He might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word, so that He might present the church to Himself in splendor, without spot or wrinkle or any such thing, that she might be holy and without blemish. In the same way husbands should love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. For no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as Christ does the church, because we are members of His body. 'Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.' This mystery is profound, and I am saying that it refers to Christ and the church. However, let each one of you love his wife as himself..." (Ephesians 5:25-33a)
...and women as wives...
"...submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife even as Christ is the head of the church, His body, and is Himself its Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit in everything to their husbands... and let the wife see that she respects her husband." (Ephesians 5:22-24, 33b)
Okay, this is an aside, really, and there is absolutely no telling what you'll try to twist this into... :)... but the mystery ~ which we can certainly understand at least in base concept, but cannot yet fully fathom ~ is that a husband and wife become part of, are made to be in, a triune relationship with God. The covenant of marriage is a triune relationship between God, husband, and wife, with God certainly over the husband and wife. This covenant is initiated by God and entered into by the husband and the wife together.
He claimed to be the Son of God 3 times...
And He called Himself the Son of Man several times, too.
Not once did he claim to be God incarnate.
Well, He did, you just deny it. And it was proclaimed by various writers of the Bible, and the Word of God was breathed into these writers by God Himself. But just as importantly, if not more so, He showed it... many times.
LOL Except for when they do reject God only exists in a unitarian nature.
Well, we reject the
misunderstanding of God's oneness. And yes, God does not only exist as one, but also in three (and vice-versa).
LOL. Since the trinity is not in the Bible - the word or the concept...
The word is not, but the concept certainly is. Jesus (yet again) is absolutely clear about the three distinct Persons of the Godhead in John 14, in particular:
"If you love Me, you will keep My commandments. And I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper, to be with you forever, even the Spirit of truth, Whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him. You know him, for He dwells with you and will be in you. I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you. Yet a little while and the world will see Me no more, but you will see Me. Because I live, you also will live. In that day you will know that I am in my Father, and you in me, and I in you. Whoever has My commandments and keeps them, he it is who loves Me. And he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and manifest Myself to him... If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word, and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him. Whoever does not love Me does not keep My words. And the word that you hear is not Mine but the Father’s who sent Me. These things I have spoken to you while I am still with you. But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, Whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you."
...it is very much refutable.
Well, people can refute anything, I guess, so sure. But to no avail; it is what it is.
Please state a stronger anti-trinitarian statement than 'For us, there is one God, the Father?'
You're cutting it off, Wrangler. You're... wrangling. :) Yet again. :) Once again, it's the indoctrination, reading miscomprehension, and intellectual dishonesty in you rearing their ugly heads. :) No, yet again, one God, yes, but 'God' is further explained by a compound appositive phrase, which includes the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. It's abundantly clear. This is the language structure of what Paul says there in 1 Corinthians 8:6. It's like science (good science anyway... :)), Wrangler; you can refute it, deny it, whatever you want to do, but it is ~ yet still ~ what it is. Like Peter says (referring to Isaiah's words centuries before),
"The grass withers, and the flower fades, but the Word of our God endures forever" (Isaiah 40:7-8; 1 Peter 1:24-25).
Grace and peace to you.
