attacking another denomination are included in this rule.

[amigo de christo]

Correct. As you will have noted, there is an "innumerable company of angels" in Heaven. The issue is not so much about praying to saints and angels as it is about the FACT of them being alive and awake witnesses in Heaven. Many Christians do not even understand this basic truth. Catholics ask the saints to intercede and intervene for them, but that is a separate issue. Non-Catholics pray to the Father, through the Son, and by the Spirit.

Yeah but it is BLASPHEMY for folks to pray to angels to saints .
IT is blasphemy for us to make statues of said men and then burn incense to it . THAT IS A FACT .

 

[Blue Dragonfly's]

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We've had discussions along these lines before.

Things are what they are, but anti-denominationalism is not the Gospel, Amigo.

It is all the rage, though.
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I think Denominationalism , as the enemy intended, has divided the church.

The church in scripture isn't dwellings built by human hands. Because God is not found there. Acts 7.

The church is comprised of the faithful united in the truth of God and in Christ.

Sadly, Denominationalism has fractured what that means into tiny shards. As has all the different edits applied to God's original words that were first delivered in spoken form.

That's why we should seek to meditate and pray for God's leading today. And when reading scrupture, test the spirits that is behind the message to see if it comports with God's truth.

Far too many of us believe in the Bible. And I believe that's missing the point of the Bible.

 

[Raccoon1010]

That's not unusual for the worldly egocentrics is it?

Think about man's place in the history of dispensing God's words.
''You're'' [impersonal contraction] asking readers to believe the power within all creation entrusted you to take dictation as to his plans for eternity.We objectified a spirit and made it male in the process.

Now, many centuries later, many councils afterward, over 40 diffetent male authors past, and countless ''versions'' of a universal message, and dozens of denominations interpreting said message over the ages we've arrived at where we are today.

In a world worse now than before the Prince of Peace arrived with a new testimony.

It's a human thing. That insured as long as we exist here, the world and we are always going to need to be saved.....from us.

Well I think there are many people that despise dominion and want to be leaders, so they start their own church. And now we have so many Christian denominations that it really shows that people have fallen away from the one church of Christ.

 

[Blue Dragonfly's]

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I was a Baptist for 26 years.

Never heard of any accusations of cult beliefs.

Just my experience.

I wonder why Jesus didn't just come right out and tell the woman at the well of Sychar she was in a cult?

Maybe he thought it would feel more like a knife to her than a big gun.
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In my familial experience if Catholics in my extended family, in their minds any practice outside holy mother church qualifies as cult.

 

[farouk]

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Wouldn't know about that.

I'm not a denominationalist.

I'm not anti-denominational, either.

There might be a couple of good ones out there, for all I know.
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Acts 2.42 seems to be all about doctrine and practice, rather than about denominations....

 

[Raccoon1010]

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We've had discussions along these lines before.

Things are what they are, but anti-denominationalism is not the Gospel, Amigo.

It is all the rage, though.
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Yes, the bible spells out a church and it's organization of Bishops and Deacons. Sola Scriptura is not a biblical teaching. I think I've had similar discussions with members that despise religion, but no success.

 

[farouk]

Well I think there are many people that despise dominion and want to be leaders, so they start their own church. And now we have so many Christian denominations that it really shows that people have fallen away from the one church of Christ.

If one sees independency in the NT (the local church being directly dependent on the Lord rather than on a circuit), then for a like-minded group to start a new congregation can presumably be a good idea.

 

[amigo de christo]

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Wouldn't know about that.

I'm not a denominationalist.

I'm not anti-denominational, either.

There might be a couple of good ones out there, for all I know.
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And the RCC is not one of the good ones my friend . Never sell out my friend . I know folks want them some unity , but not at the cost of truth
we dont .

 

[farouk]

Yes, the bible spells out a church and it's organization of Bishops and Deacons. Sola Scriptura is not a biblical teaching. I think I've had similar discussions with members that despise religion, but no success.

Are you saying that the Scriptures are after all supposedly not the final appeal?

 

[Blue Dragonfly's]

Well I think there are many people that despise dominion and want to be leaders, so they start their own church. And now we have so many Christian denominations that it really shows that people have fallen away from the one church of Christ.

Jesus, who was God,the word made flesh, is the only ''high priest'' of his one true church. And that church are those redeemed,reborn,Sanctified, by his calling of irrevocable faith and grace and his good news.

 

[Dropship]

..I have yet to determine which church is most correct. And I think it will take God's guidance to discover that. I'm still lost I think as far as a church..

If you find a good church where you feel comfortable that'd be great, but personally I never found one, so I'm happy to go it alone because strictly speaking we don't need any denomination to tell us what to think as long as we stay focussed on Jesus..:)
Jesus said:-"You have one teacher, me" (Matthew 23:10),
"Thomas said to him, Lord, we don’t know where you are going, so how can we know the way?”
Jesus replied- 'I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me'" (John 14:5-6)
"And the common people heard him gladly" (Mark 12:37)

 

[amigo de christo]

@Heart2Soul, you had said you knew all members here and weren't aware of any Roman Catholics? Below is one among many.

A bit more names could be added to that list my friend .

 

[farouk]

Jesus, who was God,the word made flesh, is the only ''high priest'' of his one true church. And that church are those redeemed,reborn,Sanctified, by his calling of irrevocable faith and grace and his good news.

Our Great High Priest is passed into the heavens (Hebrews 4.14).....

 

[Blue Dragonfly's]

A bit more names could be added to that list my friend .

True. But she said she didn't know of any so I had to start somewhere.;) Posting @ her attention when other names post may help her realize there are RC members aboard.:)

 

[Raccoon1010]

Are you saying that the Scriptures are after all supposedly not the final appeal?

Not sure what your saying farouk.

 

[Blue Dragonfly's]

Our Great High Priest is passed into the heavens (Hebrews 4.14).....

Our great high priests holy spirit indwells his faithful so that we are never far from him. And upon our hearts he has written his laws for that same reason.:)

 

[amigo de christo]

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We've had discussions along these lines before.

Things are what they are, but anti-denominationalism is not the Gospel, Amigo.

It is all the rage, though.
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Never said it was . We must flee any place ,however whose leaders teach falsehoods and have refused to repent of their blasphemous
and heretical teachings . AND take anyone you can with ya . THIS ol lamb dont have unity for the sake of unity
and i dont find common ground with false doctrines nor those who teach them . CORRECTION just as the bible taught .
And i am a sticking to that pattern no matter the cost .

 

[farouk]

Not sure what your saying farouk.

You mentioned you didn't like Sola Scriptura ....

 

[Raccoon1010]

Jesus, who was God,the word made flesh, is the only ''high priest'' of his one true church. And that church are those redeemed,reborn,Sanctified, by his calling of irrevocable faith and grace and his good news.

Yes but I think if we follow the bible and it's teachings, that God has called leaders for his church and established deacons and bishops to preside over it. And I think being part of that is important for a Christian.

 

[farouk]

Our great high priests holy spirit indwells his faithful so that we are never far from him. And upon our hearts he has written his laws for that same reason.:)

@Blue Dragonfly's Romans 8.9 indeed says: 'If any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of His...'