The Pre-Trib Rapture

[Phoneman777]

Why don't you bring that confidence and address the questions that I asked?

I'm pretty sure I answered them. You have yet to produce any evidence that any temple stones remain intact as when they were laid. All I see is stones thrown down and cast to the side which is what happened when they were retrieving the melted gold.

 

[Truth7t7]

EGW never predicted Jesus would come in 1844, so please stop listening to your Jesuit handlers and do a little research for yourself.

Ellen G White was a follower of William Miller who made the 1844 false prediction, yes Ellen promoted and taught the "Cover Up" of this great disappointment in the "Investigative Judgement"

Yes Ellen G. White claimed to have 2,000 dreams and visions, in my opinion a lie

Yes Ellen G. White taught Sunday Observance is the mark of the beast

Yes Ellen G. White is a false Prophetess

 

[Phoneman777]

The is NO SCRIPTURE that says there are 7 years after the rapture.

Look around. The lie has been in place for years to explain the disappearance of people.......alien abductions.

How many movies have you seen in the last couple of years that show people vanishing?

Wait, you think aliens in spaceships abduct people?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

The is NO SCRIPTURE that says there are 7 years after the rapture.

Look around. The lie has been in place for years to explain the disappearance of people.......alien abductions.

How many movies have you seen in the last couple of years that show people vanishing?

Can you tell me where I can find the scripture that describes the sudden disappearance of millions of people throughout the world along with all the chaos and destruction that would result from such an event?

 

[Phoneman777]

Ellen G White was a follower if William Miller who made the 1844 false prediction, yes Ellen promoted and taught the "Cover Up" of this great disappointment in the "Investigative Judgement"

Yes Ellen G. White claimed to gave 2,000 dreams and visions, in my opinion a lie

Yes Ellen G. White taught Sunday Observance is the mark of the beast

Yes Ellen G. White is a false Prophetess

You said she falsely predicted the Second Coming of Jesus in 1844. If you don't produce anything to back that up or apologize for your error, I'm blocking you b/c I will not deal with dishonest people in this chat.

 

[Truth7t7]

I wasn't asking as if I didn't know the answer. I was making a point. I asked the question because you conclude that Jesus will literally use a sword to kill people "because that is what the Bible describes in Revelation 19". So, my point is that the Bible also describes a woman sitting on many waters while riding on a beast with seven heads and ten horns, but that doesn't make it literal.

Don't forget the beast rising out of the "Sea" a creature from the Black lagoon, late Saturday night Sci-Fi

Revelation 13:1KJV
And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

 

[The Light]

Where are the pictures of the stones that remain arranged as they were when the temple buildings were built? All I see are a bunch of stones that were pulled down and cast to the side.

The Word says one stone upon another. A pile of stones is one stone upon another. Additionally, if it happened WHAT WAS THE SIGN? And what did Jesus say the sign was? I think you are stuck of this one.

 

[Truth7t7]

Can you tell me where I can find the scripture that describes the sudden disappearance of millions of people throughout the world along with all the chaos and destruction that would result from such an event?

In the book of Aesops fables

 

[The Light]

There is no Scripture that supports Jesus' return after any rapture, 7 years or 3 1/2 years. Scripture says Jesus comes back in glory and power and Earthshattering thunder to collect the saints, both dead and living.

If that's the case, why would you insinuate that you could count 7 years from the rapture? There will be a pretribulation rapture. When it happens, if you know anyone that is not worthy to escape, don't tell them they can count 7 years to Jesus return as that is not true.

 

[The Light]

I'm pretty sure I answered them. You have yet to produce any evidence that any temple stones remain intact as when they were laid. All I see is stones thrown down and cast to the side which is what happened when they were retrieving the melted gold.

Ok, if you think you are correct, what was the sign that happened? And what did Jesus say the sign was.

And you may not understand that a pile of stones is one stone upon another. The prophecy is unfulfilled.

 

[The Light]

Wait, you think aliens in spaceships abduct people?

Did I say that? I said the lie is in place to explain the pre tribulation week rapture......alien abductions. I don't believe in aliens. I do believe in fallen angels.

 

[Phoneman777]

The Word says one stone upon another. A pile of stones is one stone upon another. Additionally, if it happened WHAT WAS THE SIGN? And what did Jesus say the sign was? I think you are stuck of this one.

I'm pretty sure Jesus was talking about "no stone left one upon another as they were placed in the building of the temple."

 

[Phoneman777]

If that's the case, why would you insinuate that you could count 7 years from the rapture? There will be a pretribulation rapture. When it happens, if you know anyone that is not worthy to escape, don't tell them they can count 7 years to Jesus return as that is not true.

My comment was to someone else and you kinda interjected yourself without taking the time to acquaint yourself: the mark of a contentious man. I'm not really interested in dealing with such, thank you.

 

[The Light]

Can you tell me where I can find the scripture that describes the sudden disappearance of millions of people throughout the world along with all the chaos and destruction that would result from such an event?

I'd look right here for that answer.

Matthew 24
42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.

44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.

 

[The Light]

My comment was to someone else and you kinda interjected yourself without taking the time to acquaint yourself: the mark of a contentious man. I'm not really interested in dealing with such, thank you.

I understand. Hi. I'm The Light. Nice to meet you. I certainly understand that you are a confident person, that cuts and runs when the Word disproves what they are saying. A wise man would open his eyes and seek the truth. The alternative is cut and run.

Have no answer for the sign?

 

[Truth7t7]

You said she falsely predicted the Second Coming of Jesus in 1844. If you don't produce anything to back that up or apologize for your error, I'm blocking you b/c I will not deal with dishonest people in this chat.

Quote EGW: “ I have seen the 1843 chart was directed by the hand of the Lord, and that it should not be altered; that the figures were as he wanted them; that His hand was over and hid a mistake in some of the figures, so that none could see it, until His hand was removed." Early Writings, p. 74.

Quote EGW: “...and the same evidence which they had presented to show that the prophetic periods closed in 1843, proved that they would terminate in 1844.” Early Writings, p. 236.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Don't forget the beast rising out of the "Sea" a creature from the Black lagoon, late Saturday night Sci-Fi

Revelation 13:1KJV
And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

Yes, we need to be on the lookout for that since that is what is described.

 

[ewq1938]

I wasn't asking as if I didn't know the answer. I was making a point.

So was I. Why ask such a question when Revelation itself tells us those are symbolisms giving the explanations? It doesn't help your position to cite universally recognized symbols and then ask, are these literal? Fail.

You interpret a sword coming from Christ's mouth as fire raining down from heaven without any support or justification at all except that it supports your theological position's bias. My position that the sword is symbolic and kills people is in line with the bible, yours is not. Your weak claim that a symbolic sword cannot cause physical deaths is laughable.

 

[ewq1938]

The Beast claims its Mark is Sunday observance

That doesn't come from the bible. It's imaginary.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

In the book of Aesops fables

I can't seem to find that book in my Bible. How did I end up with a Bible that doesn't have all the books in it?