The Pre-Trib Rapture

[Truth7t7]

Ever have a gnat buzzing about you, simply being a pesky annoyance, with no meaningful worth, but to be an annoying distraction?

Yes *yawn*. Gnats are not a food source for humans.
Hoping a gnat will feed you valuable worthy information, not likely.

Off the handle with personal attacks, calling posters pesky knats?

 

[Truth7t7]

So you've said.

Much love!

As long as you continue to promote Darbyism, I will continue to expose it

Jesus Love

 

[marks]

Jesus prophesied concerning Israel and not the Church. The Church was a mystery revealed by Paul, not by Jesus.

Prophesies given concerning Israel if applied to the Church will lead to error. It's a misapplication of Scripture.

Paul was the one who revealed the church, the Body of Christ, not Jesus in the Gospels. Nothing against Jesus or anything, only, that's the way it was. Paul, not Jesus, revealed the Church.

Much love!

 

[Truth7t7]

Jesus prophesied concerning Israel and not the Church. The Church was a mystery revealed by Paul, not by Jesus.

Prophesies given concerning Israel if applied to the Church will lead to error. It's a misapplication of Scripture.

Paul was the one who revealed the church, the Body of Christ, not Jesus in the Gospels. Nothing against Jesus or anything, only, that's the way it was. Paul, not Jesus, revealed the Church.

Much love!

Your response is floating in the wind, who are you responding to?

God has one covenant with man, the shed blood on Calvary period

 

[Phoneman777]

Read this.

Luke 21
6 As for these things which ye behold, the days will come, in the which there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.

7 And they asked him, saying, Master, but when shall these things be? and what sign will there be when these things shall come to pass?

Like most people you claim that the destruction of the temple is the fulfillment of there being not one stone upon another. Well, there is still one stone upon another. If the facts aren't good enough for you, please tell WHAT SIGN was there when these things happened and what sign did Jesus say there will be when these things happen?

Interesting. Which temple buildings remain intact from the destruction today? I always thought the entire temple with all it's buildings was razed to the ground in their search for the melted gold.

 

[Phoneman777]

I don't think you understand what I'm saying here.

The only One who is going to be able to catch away all those "in Christ", bringing us up into the sky, to meet with Jesus, Whom I already know, and to be physically transformed, the body of my humiliation transformed to be like the body of His glory, well, Should that not happen . . . it doesn't translate into "beast worship".

Someone says this is beast worship?

You do understand "non-sequitor", right? Yeah. Those poor poor pre-tribbers who lost all faith and reason when their little theory didn't work out. I've heard it before. And it's making up stuff to malign those with whom you disagree, and, this can't be your best argument, can it be??

I'm just repeating what Pike and Mazzini said, major players in the global occult secret society oligarchy stage. The "multitudes disillusioned with Christianity" as described can only refer to those who expected the Rapture to scoop them up and out of here before it hits the fan.

What about you? Won't you drop to your knees and worship the beast when you realize you missed the rapture?

How will anyone who misses the Rapture drop to their knees in worship when they'll be dropping dead "at the brightness of His coming"?

(The Rapture and the Second Coming are simultaneous events that take place on the same day)

 

[Taken]

So you've said.

He did? When?

Guess he doesn’t know repeating a lie 6 times a day, has zero effect on the Converted!

 

[marks]

Your response is floating in the wind, who are you responding to?

Just posting is all.

Much love!

 

[marks]

Someone says this is beast worship?

No, the idea is that as a pre-tribber, I'm setting myself up for beast worship when the rapture doesn't happen. What a load of you know what!

Much love!

 

[marks]

How will anyone who misses the Rapture drop to their knees in worship when they'll be dropping dead "at the brightness of His coming"?

No, that's if you are right. The premise is, if you are wrong on this particular point, it means you will worship a false Christ in Jerusalem. So I mirrow that back . . . if you are wrong in what you think, do you really believe that means you will then go on to worship the devil?

I'll bet I can guess your answer!

:)

Much love!

 

[marks]

God has one covenant with man, the shed blood on Calvary period

This does not speak to my point. Paul revealed the Church, not Jesus. Oh, and there is a new covenant, btw.

Much love!

 

[Phoneman777]

No, the idea is that as a pre-tribber, I'm setting myself up for beast worship when the rapture doesn't happen. What a load of you know what!

Much love!

The only ones who could be "from that moment without direction and leadership anxious for an ideal, but without knowledge of where to send its adoration" are those who expected to be already up there when the tribulation hits down here, and they'll be thoroughly confused as to what to do next seeing that the teachers in whom they put their trust are as confused as they are --- the rest of us who know we're going through the tribulation won't be taken by surprise and will have prayerfully prepared to meet the crisis.

 

[Taken]

Off the handle with personal attacks, calling posters pesky knats?

Did YOU apply my comment to A poster?
If so, report yourself.

 

[farouk]

If so, report yourself.

:)

 

[Phoneman777]

Your response is floating in the wind, who are you responding to?

God has one covenant with man, the shed blood on Calvary period

Yes, the covenant that Jesus "confirmed with many for one week" long ago.

 

[Taken]

Jesus prophesied concerning Israel and not the Church. The Church was a mystery revealed by Paul, not by Jesus.

Prophesies given concerning Israel if applied to the Church will lead to error. It's a misapplication of Scripture.

Paul was the one who revealed the church, the Body of Christ, not Jesus in the Gospels. Nothing against Jesus or anything, only, that's the way it was. Paul, not Jesus, revealed the Church.

Much love!

Who coined the phrase “Darbyism” and why?
I’ve never seen someone in Scripture named Darby.
If that be John Darby being referenced, pretty sure
Scripture was written LONG before Darby was born.

Seriously do people think Darby invented something secret and magically slipped that into Scripture...?

LOL

 

[farouk]

Who coined the phrase “Darbyism” and why?
I’ve never seen someone in Scripture named Darby.
If that be John Darby being referenced, pretty sure
Scripture was written LONG before Darby was born.

Seriously do people think Darby invented something secret and magically slipped that into Scripture...?

LOL

@Taken Darby basically pointed out the distinction in Scripture between the church, Israel and the gentiles; references to future events and the principle of gathering seem to revolve around this.

 

[Phoneman777]

No, that's if you are right. The premise is, if you are wrong on this particular point, it means you will worship a false Christ in Jerusalem. So I mirrow that back . . . if you are wrong in what you think, do you really believe that means you will then go on to worship the devil?

I'll bet I can guess your answer!

:)

Much love!

You don't seem to be getting it.

The occultists say their plans will cause great disillusion in Christianity. THAT CAN'T HAPPEN IF A PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE OCCURS because everyone would know what happened and be preparing for Christ's return 7 years later after going through the tribulation and won't be fooled any of Lucifer's tricks.

The only mass disillusion that can take place among Christians is if pre-tribbers find themselves neck deep in the tribulation and the long awaited pre-trib Rapture is no where to be found.

 

[Taken]

@Taken Darby basically pointed out the distinction in Scripture between the church, Israel and the gentiles; references to future events and the principle of gathering seem to revolve around this.

Oh, okay. I had never heard of him, or a lot of other names and terms pass around until I joined this forum.

Some of the terms, even being “accused” of being such and such, I have to look it up. I just laugh and think humm, how I did I become Converted without knowing all the stupid stuff men think up.

 

[Timtofly]

Those planning the NWO and the counterfeit Second Coming have written down how they're going about doing it, and they've said something very interesting which should be of great concern to all who believe the pre-trib Rapture (my words in red):

"We shall unleash the nihilists and the atheists (Antifa/BLM/CPUSA, etc) and we shall provoke a great social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to all nations the effect of absolute atheism; the origins of savagery and of most bloody turmoil (if everyone is to bow down and worship, they must first see a need and obligation to worship). Then everywhere, the people will be forced to defend themselves against the world minority of the world revolutionaries and will exterminate those destroyers of civilization (the pendulum will soon swing the other direction against leftists everywhere - we need to pray for them)..."

Now here's the part that should
concern Pretrib folks:​

"...AND THE MULTITUDES DISILLUSIONED WITH CHRISTIANITY WHOSE SPIRITS WILL BE FROM THAT MOMENT WITHOUT DIRECTION AND LEADERSHIP AND ANXIOUS FOR AN IDEAL, BUT WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE WHERE TO SEND ITS ADORATION (when the crisis reaches epic proportions and chaos reigns supreme and terror fills the streets, disillusioned Christians who've been waiting for Jesus to sneak into town and sneak out with the saints will be filling the streets, confused and terrified and shouting to the heavens demanding to know from God what happened to the Rapture) will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer brought finally out into public view."​

This is what they're planning and everything seems to be going along according to plan.

I guess you are trusting man over God. Probably not a great argument, to let humans dictate God's Will.