Bible alone

[Marine0311]

The Roman Catholic Church has made many un-true proclamations about itself and those with a heart for God see through the lies, half truths,and blatant idolatry.

 

[Marine0311]

The church existed and exercised authority from Christ before the New Testament was written, and the church wrote it!


Ephesians 1:10
That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:

Requirements of the church founded by Christ!

One:
Holy:
Catholic / universal:
Apostolic succession:
The teacher of truth to all men without error:
Visible kingdom with visible unity:
Founded by God in Christ not by any man!

Not a collection of believers but a hierarchical church with jurisdictional authority!



Truth is immutable!
The church is ir-reformable!

Both are from God who is the same yesterday, today, and forever!

Lk 1:32-33 His kingdom shall have no end!

Matt 16:18-19 shall not prevail!

Jn 21:23 same mission, power, and authority as Christ!

The church is built only by Christ on His apostles! Matt 16:18 eph 2:20

. That was a pretty impressive feat considering the RCC began in 325 AD. No the RCC never wrote the scripture it was written by men inspired by the Holy Spirit before the RCC began, but a lie told over and over obviously is believed by the brain washed who don’t know scripture in context.

 

[Jim B]

The fact that you can easily protest a long list of Protestant scholars as "bad hermeneutics" shows you are a true Protestant.


But it does, as attested by the facts of history; truckloads of early church documents. It is impossible to re-write early church history based on the Bible alone. Sadly, the sola scripturist doesn't have such freedom, which forces them to re-write early church history so it fits an ideology.

I don't know which Bible you're using, but the truth certainly isn't getting through to you.

Here is what it says about Peter's ministry: "On the contrary, when they saw that I was entrusted with the gospel to the uncircumcised just as Peter was entrusted with the gospel to the circumcised [The Jews only] (for he who empowered Peter for his apostleship to the circumcised also empowered me for my apostleship to the Gentiles) and when James, Cephas, and John, who had a reputation as pillars, recognized the grace that had been given to me, they gave to Barnabas and me the right hand of fellowship, agreeing that we would go to the Gentiles and they to the circumcised." Galatians 2:7-9

So, who is rewriting early church history? You! Peter was given a certain specific task: to be the apostle to the Jews only!

BTW, when he came to Galatia, Paul called him out for his hypocritical behavior. Galatians 2:11-12, "But when Cephas came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he had clearly done wrong. Until certain people came from James, he had been eating with the Gentiles. But when they arrived, he stopped doing this and separated himself because he was afraid of those who were pro-circumcision."

This is the guy you claim is "the rock" on which your denomination is built?

 

[Jim B]

That was a pretty impressive feat considering the RCC began in 325 AD. No the RCC never wrote the scripture it was written by men inspired by the Holy Spirit before the RCC began, but a lie told over and over obviously is believed by the brain washed who don’t know scripture in context.

Catholics will compulsively repeat what they have been fed by their denomination's leaders. They don't even realize that there is no mention of "Catholic", "Catholicism", "the Pope", etc. anywhere in the Bible!

 

[theefaith]

*cough* Prayers to the dead. *cough*
*cough* Queen of Heaven. *cough*
*cough* Purgatory. *cough*

No, not a SINGLE … more like a PLETHORA.

we don’t believe in prayers to the dead Jn 11:25

if the promised land was a type of heaven then the bondage in Egypt was a type of purgatory

Queen to follow

 

[theefaith]

Son of David the king: royalty!

Matt 1:1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.

Matt 1:20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.

Matthew 9:27
And when Jesus departed thence, two blind men followed him, crying, and saying, Thou son of David, have mercy on us.

Matt 12:23
Matt 15:22
Matt 20:30
Matt 20:31
Matt 21:9-15 etc.

Romans 1:3
Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;

House of David the king:

Lk 1:27 To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary.

Received the kingdom of David:

Lk 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.

Rev 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

Christ is King, Mary must be queen!

Only a queen can bear a king!

A Royal greeting!

Lk 1:28 is the only place in the Bible where such a greeting takes place!
Mary is of the tribe of Judah and the royal house of David the king!

God himself is greeting Mary thru the instrument of the angel Gabriel!

This is a Royal greeting of the queen of heaven and earth! Queen of the angels and saints! Mary is of the house of king David!

In the line of king David the mother of the king is the queen, as Jesus Christ is the king of heaven and earth and the angels and saints so Mary is the queen of the same! Lk 1:32-33 the queen mother sits at His right hand and receives the petitions of the members of the kingdom!

The mother of any king is automatically queen and rules half the kingdom!
The queen mother!

Lk 1:28 And the angel entered to her, and said, Hail, full of grace; the Lord is with thee; blessed be thou among women.

29 And when she had heard, she was troubled in his word, and thought what manner salutation this was.

30 And the angel said to her, Fear not, Mary, for thou hast found favor with God.

Mary is mother of mercy and the throne of grace!
heb 4:16

A good tree!

Matthew 7:18
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

The fruit of the tree of Mary is our salvation! Lk 2:30 Jesus is our salvation!
Lk 1:30 Mary found our salvation!

Queen of heaven
In the line of david’s kingdom the mother of the king is always queen!
Jesus is king Lk 1:32-33
And Jesus is the king of heaven & earth & all the angels & saints, so Mary is queen of heaven & earth & all the angels & saints!

so Mary too is the fruit of the merits, virtues, & graces provided by Christ! Lk 1:47 Mary also saved by God



2 Tim 2:8 Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel:

2 Tim 2: 21 If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work. How much more Mary who was prepared by God thru the immaculate conception! Lk 1:49

Heb 2:7

Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; thou crownedst him with glory and honour, and didst set him over the works of thy hands

Rev12:1 woman clothed with the sun.
Crown of stars = queen Mary


David the king carried the ark to the earthly Jerusalem.
2 Sam 6:15-16

Jesus the new king carried His ark to the heavenly Jerusalem! Rev 12:1
(Assumption of Mary into heaven and crowned with glory!)
Inaugurating the kingdom!


1 kings 2:19 Bathsheba therefore went unto king Solomon, to speak unto him for Adonijah. And the king rose up to meet her, and bowed himself unto her, and sat down on his throne, and caused a seat to be set for the king's mother; and she sat on his right hand.

Lk 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

Heb 4:16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

ONLY A KING AND A QUEEN SIT ON A THRONE!

 

[Marine0311]

we don’t believe in prayers to the dead Jn 11:25

if the promised land was a type of heaven then the bondage in Egypt was a type of purgatory

Queen to follow

 

[Marine0311]

You have no scripture that shows or supports purgatory. FYI, the imagination of lost folks is a terrible foundation for doctrine.

 

[Marine0311]

Son of David the king: royalty!

Matt 1:1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.

Matt 1:20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.

Matthew 9:27
And when Jesus departed thence, two blind men followed him, crying, and saying, Thou son of David, have mercy on us.

Matt 12:23
Matt 15:22
Matt 20:30
Matt 20:31
Matt 21:9-15 etc.

Romans 1:3
Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;

House of David the king:

Lk 1:27 To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary.

Received the kingdom of David:

Lk 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.

Rev 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

Christ is King, Mary must be queen!

Only a queen can bear a king!

A Royal greeting!

Lk 1:28 is the only place in the Bible where such a greeting takes place!
Mary is of the tribe of Judah and the royal house of David the king!

God himself is greeting Mary thru the instrument of the angel Gabriel!

This is a Royal greeting of the queen of heaven and earth! Queen of the angels and saints! Mary is of the house of king David!

In the line of king David the mother of the king is the queen, as Jesus Christ is the king of heaven and earth and the angels and saints so Mary is the queen of the same! Lk 1:32-33 the queen mother sits at His right hand and receives the petitions of the members of the kingdom!

The mother of any king is automatically queen and rules half the kingdom!
The queen mother!

Lk 1:28 And the angel entered to her, and said, Hail, full of grace; the Lord is with thee; blessed be thou among women.

29 And when she had heard, she was troubled in his word, and thought what manner salutation this was.

30 And the angel said to her, Fear not, Mary, for thou hast found favor with God.

Mary is mother of mercy and the throne of grace!
heb 4:16

A good tree!

Matthew 7:18
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

The fruit of the tree of Mary is our salvation! Lk 2:30 Jesus is our salvation!
Lk 1:30 Mary found our salvation!

Queen of heaven
In the line of david’s kingdom the mother of the king is always queen!
Jesus is king Lk 1:32-33
And Jesus is the king of heaven & earth & all the angels & saints, so Mary is queen of heaven & earth & all the angels & saints!

so Mary too is the fruit of the merits, virtues, & graces provided by Christ! Lk 1:47 Mary also saved by God



2 Tim 2:8 Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel:

2 Tim 2: 21 If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work. How much more Mary who was prepared by God thru the immaculate conception! Lk 1:49

Heb 2:7

Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; thou crownedst him with glory and honour, and didst set him over the works of thy hands

Rev12:1 woman clothed with the sun.
Crown of stars = queen Mary


David the king carried the ark to the earthly Jerusalem.
2 Sam 6:15-16

Jesus the new king carried His ark to the heavenly Jerusalem! Rev 12:1
(Assumption of Mary into heaven and crowned with glory!)
Inaugurating the kingdom!


1 kings 2:19 Bathsheba therefore went unto king Solomon, to speak unto him for Adonijah. And the king rose up to meet her, and bowed himself unto her, and sat down on his throne, and caused a seat to be set for the king's mother; and she sat on his right hand.

Lk 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

Heb 4:16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

ONLY A KING AND A QUEEN SIT ON A THRONE!

 

[Marine0311]

If you ever wondered why no apostle gave Mary any glory here is your answer:

Gal 6:14 - But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.

 

[Illuminator]

There aren’t.
Name all tens of thousands.
Name one thousand.

The figure comes from a freakish way of counting. If we SAY that every RCC congregation (local assembly) is a distinct denomination, then how many “Catholic” denominations would there be?

Only one, because a parish is not a denomination, a diocese is not a denomination, a rite is not a denomination. All share ONE set of doctrines, so what you SAY is a straw man fallacy.

That is the sort of game being played with the Protestant denominations. If you disagree, then prove me wrong and list them.

Ok.
According to the Dictionary of Christianity in America [Protestant] (Downers Grove, IL: Intervarsity Press, 1990): “As of 1980 David B. Barrett identified 20,800 Christian denominations worldwide . . .” (that was 42 years ago)

(“Denominationalism,” p. 351). I have this book, so I have seen this with my own eyes. Barrett “classified them into seven major blocs and 156 ecclesiastical traditions.” This is from Oxford World Christian Encyclopedia, 1982, of which he is the editor.

Also, according to United Nations there were over 23,000 competing and often contradictory denominations world-wide (World Census of Religious Activities [U.N. Information Center, NY, 1989]). This was cited in Frank Schaeffer’s book Dancing Alone (Brookline, MA: Holy Cross Press, 1994), p. 4. Schaeffer is Orthodox.

The 1999 Encyclopedia of Christianity has this to say: “In 1985 David Barrett could count 22,150 distinct denominations worldwide.” {edited by E. Fahlbusch, et al., Grand Rapids, MI: Eerdmans, 1999, vol. 1, p. 800, s.v. “Denomination.” David B. Barrett is the statistical editor}
read more here

 

[Davy]

The fact that you can easily protest a long list of Protestant scholars as "bad hermeneutics" shows you are a true Protestant.


But it does, as attested by the facts of history; truckloads of early church documents. It is impossible to re-write early church history based on the Bible alone. Sadly, the sola scripturist doesn't have such freedom, which forces them to re-write early church history so it fits an ideology.

FUNNY!!!

 

[Davy]

Only one, because a parish is not a denomination, a diocese is not a denomination, a rite is not a denomination. All share ONE set of doctrines, so what you SAY is a straw man fallacy. Ok.
According to the Dictionary of Christianity in America [Protestant] (Downers Grove, IL: Intervarsity Press, 1990): “As of 1980 David B. Barrett identified 20,800 Christian denominations worldwide . . .” (that was 42 years ago)
....

And of course ALL the FACTS needed that proves who is following The Word of God, and who is not, isn't with men's leaven traditions added, but by those who heed God's Word as written!

One of the Catholic traditions that Martin Luther abhorred were Indulgences. For a donation of money, animals, whatever you had, you could get your dead loved ones out of Purgatory! That reveals how backward the leaders in the early Catholic Church were especially. And now they have a pope that says aliens are real???

 

[Berserk]

Jim B: "Peter, a.k.a. Cephas, was given a specific task: apostle to the circumcised (the Jews). Claiming that Peter was the rock on which the church was built is not scriptural.[/QUOTE]

First, you duck the plain sense of Matthew 16:18-19 and thus overlook Jesus' intent for Peter.
2nd, you overlook Paul's need to get his Gospel validated by Peter and James (Gal. 1:18-19; 2:2), though Paul seems annoyed by the need to do so.
3rd, you overlook the fact that the Palestinian Jewish church, especially in Jerusalem, is the foundation and launching pad for the Gentile mission.
4th, you ignore the fact that Peter's mission, though initially directed to Jews, ignites and validates the Gentile mission (see Acts 10-11) and plays the lead role in establishing the Gentile church of Rome, which (together with the Antioch and Jerusalem churches) is the most important church in the fledgling Christian movement. You also ignore Peter's authority and connection with Gentiles in the 5 districts of Anatolia (see 1Peter 1:1).

 

[Illuminator]

And of course ALL the FACTS needed that proves who is following The Word of God, and who is not, isn't with men's leaven traditions added, but by those who heed God's Word as written!

The Word of God mandates tradition, so you are forced to turn "tradition" into a dirty word.
"Tradition" Isn't a Dirty Word

One of the Catholic traditions that Martin Luther abhorred were Indulgences. For a donation of money, animals, whatever you had, you could get your dead loved ones out of Purgatory! That reveals how backward the leaders in the early Catholic Church were especially.

That myth has been debunked 1000 times. Luther abhorred the abuse of indulgences, and blamed it on doctrines. Indulgences are NOT a tradition.
Myths about Indulgences
Myth 6: A person can buy indulgences.
The Council of Trent instituted severe reforms in the practice of granting indulgences, and, because of prior abuses, “in 1567 Pope Pius V canceled all grants of indulgences involving any fees or other financial transactions” (Catholic Encyclopedia).
That was 455 years ago and prots like you are still complaining about it. It's about time you grew up.

And now they have a pope that says aliens are real???

A good example of making false claims against what the pope actually said.

 

[Taken]

2 John 1:12
Having many things to write unto you, I would not write with paper and ink: but I trust to come unto you, andspeak face to face, that our joy may be full.

What about 2 John 1:12?

Are you expecting the author of 2 John to show up face to face and speak to you?

 

[theefaith]

This is shown to be false by Galatians 2:7-9, "On the contrary, when they saw that I was entrusted with the gospel to the uncircumcised just as Peter was entrusted with the gospel to the circumcised (for he who empowered Peter for his apostleship to the circumcised also empowered me for my apostleship to the Gentiles) and when James, Cephas, and John, who had a reputation as pillars, recognized the grace that had been given to me, they gave to Barnabas and me the right hand of fellowship, agreeing that we would go to the Gentiles and they to the circumcised."

Peter, a.k.a. Cephas, was given a specific task: apostle to the circumcised (the Jews). Claiming that Peter was the rock on which the church was built is not scriptural.

a mission to preach the gospel is very different than who is identified with Christ and is the visible head of the church on earth!

Jesus Christ is the rock of salvation!

Peter is the rock that the church is built on by Christ alone!

Lk 22
All apostles But Jesus prays for Peter alone

Jn 21:17 Peter entrusted with the flock or church

Only Peter and His successors have
Jurisdictional authority from Christ to govern the church!

Already acting in the person of Christ even acting as intermediary!

It is Jesus Christ who identifies peter with himself!

Matt 17:24 And when they were come to Capernaum, they that received tribute money came to Peter, and said, Doth not your master pay tribute?

25 He saith, Yes. And when he was come into the houser, Jesus prevented him, saying, What thinkest thou, Simon? of whom do the kings of the earth take custom or tribute? of their own children, or of strangers?

26 Peter saith unto him, Of strangers. Jesus saith unto him, Then are the children free.

27 Notwithstanding, lest we should offend them, go thou to the sea, and cast an hook, and take up the fish that first cometh up; and when thou hast opened his mouth, thou shalt find a piece of money: that take, and give unto them for me and thee.

It is Jesus Christ who identifies peter with himself! Matt 17:27

Jesus Christ gives the keys of the kingdom to peter matt 16:18-19 making him prime minister applying Isa 22:21-22 to peter

It’s Christ who does this

Why is the name of peter even mentioned?

Why does Christ change Peter’s name, God changing a persons name like Abram to Abraham or Jacob to Israel always signifies a mission or ministry!

Why does Christ give him the keys of jurisdictional authority that the prime minister holds under the king to administer the kingdom? Isa 22:21-22

How do you govern the church and administer the kingdom with a confession?

How do you give jurisdictional authority to a confession? (Keys of the kingdom)

How do you give a confession the power to bind and loose?


also have to explain
Isa 22:21-22 jurisdictional authority of the keys and called father
Matt 28:19 go teach baptize
Jn 20:21-23 same mission power and authority as christ
Eph 2:20 church built on the apostles
Matt 23 successors of Moses have the jurisdictional authority and the power to bind and loose which Christ says must be obeyed, then taken from them matt 21:43 given to Peter and the apostles and their successors

Lk 22:29 And I appoint unto you a kingdom, as my Father hath appointed unto me;
30 That ye may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
31 And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat: (plural Peter and his successors)
32 But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren.



Applies only to Peter as “prince of the apostles”!

Peter and his successors are the Leader of the apostles and the head of the church until Christ returns!

First and chief apostle!

Matt 10:2 Now the names of the twelve apostles are these; The first, Simon, who is called Peter,

Lk 22:29 And I appoint unto you a kingdom, as my Father hath appointed unto me;
30 That ye may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
31 And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat: (plural Peter and his successors)
32 But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren.

Lk 22:32 Christ prayed for Peter!

Peter is head of the church on earth in the place of Christ until His return!

Isa 22:21-22 21 And I will clothe him with thy robe, and strengthen him with thy girdle, and I will commit thy government into his hand: and he shall be a father to the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and to the house of Judah.

22 And the key of the house of David will I lay upon his shoulder; so he shall open, and none shall shut; and he shall shut, and none shall open.

Matt 16:19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

Matt 23:1 power and authority of the kingdom known in the keys and binding and loosing, Matt 21:43 kingdom shall be taken from you given to another who will bear fruit. (Peter the apostles in holy church Lk 22:29)

Matt 17:27 Jesus identified peter with himself.

Matt 16:17 Peter alone received revelation from the Father

Lk 22:32 Peter to strengthen his brethren (the apostles)

Jn 21:17 feed my sheep

Peter exercises his authority over the apostles and the church!

Acts 1:15
Acts 3:4
Acts 5:5 5:10
Acts 10:44
Acts 15:7

ONLY TO PETER CHRIST SAID: THOU ART PETER AND UPON THIS ROCK I WILL BUILT MY CHURCH, AND THE GATES OF HELL SHALL NOT PREVAIL AGAINST IT!Matt 16:18

Peter is the prime minister, father, and head of the church on earth until Christ returns Isa 22:21-22

Seat of peter remains Until Christ returns
Matt 28:19-20


Matthew 5:14
Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.


Rom 14:10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.

4 important questions:

1) How do you govern the church and administer the kingdom with a confession?

2) How do you give jurisdictional authority to a confession? (Keys of the kingdom)

3) How do you give a confession the power to bind and loose?

4) why did Christ give the keys to Peter (and only to Peter) keys of jurisdictional authority. Isa 22:21-22 why even bother to mention Peter if he is not involved?

Explain Jn 20:21 Peter and the apostles and their successors have the same mission, ministry, power, and authority as Christ! “As the father sent me, so I send you”!

Matt 28:19 christ communicates his authority to peter and the apostles to teach all nations, baptize all disciples!
Jn 20:21-23 apostles even have authority to forgive sins
Eph 2:20 church built on the apostles
Matt 23 the authority and power of the successors of Moses required to be obeyed are taken from them and given to Peter and the apostles

Jn 21:17
Peter commanded to Feed my sheep:

 

[theefaith]

It says in the Bible that Jesus expected His disciples to carry on His work. That doesn't mean, by any stretch of the imagination, that this refers to the Roman Catholic denomination! There is no mention of the Catholic denomination in Scripture; it is the invention of men who seek power over others.

Sola scriptura!

how is this work carried out without the jurisdictional authority of Peter and the his successors who alone possess the “keys of Christ’s kingdom“???

 

[BreadOfLife]

A local church let a peedo join them a few years ago even they knew he'd got past convictions for it, but they never warned the parents.
Guess what, he started abusing the daughters of other church members.
Was that a good church or bad church? You tell me..:)

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That’s a perfect example of a bad, sinful man/men allowing this to happen.
This has NOTHING to do with Catholic doctrine – anymore than Protestant pedophiles have to do with any particular Protestant doctrine.

Do YOU think that we should blame ALL Baptist congregations when a Baptist minister molests a child?
How about Lutherans? Presbyterians? SDAs?

 

[theefaith]

. That was a pretty impressive feat considering the RCC began in 325 AD. No the RCC never wrote the scripture it was written by men inspired by the Holy Spirit before the RCC began, but a lie told over and over obviously is believed by the brain washed who don’t know scripture in context.

youre 325 is the lie

Christ founded one church Jn 10:16 on Peter Matt 16:18-19