Once Saved, Always Saved?
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Michiah-Imla
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nice speech i have yet see you post any type scriptures .just a useless speech man made doctrine
nice cherry picking scriptures' looks like your trained well by men
Michiah-Imla
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That’s what Once Saved Always Saved adherents do. You should know…
My point is proven already. You cannot dismiss that scripture. You can only vainly cry “it doesn’t mean what it says!”
That’s all your type does with scriptures that refute their false theology.
lol nice speech .curious what is my type so i give scripture i have false theology? lets see you post 0 scripture and you have the correct theology. .wells without water you need to go to the well , i have yet to see you even attempt to prove your point using scripture. i have asked YOU to explain no man pluck us out of the fathers hand . then i asked you to define eternal .. so far notta..
here's the deal give defense of what your saying using scripture . or just sit back on the porch and hush. i aint a feared to compare scripture .o did a email correspondence with a Calvinist who tried to prove me wrong..... Guess what he stopped with the emails. let me know in the morning if you lost your salvation over night ..
i would try to explain a few things to you with scripture.. but it would be like water on a duck back roll right off .
either prove your theology with scripture or stop bothering me . shoot you cant even prove me wrong
...BTW ALL EYES ARE ON YOU waiting for your rusty theology I do think eternal security is clear from Romans 8.38-39, Philippians 1.6, etc.
Michiah-Imla
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Eternal security in salvation is sure to those who:
“continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel…” (Colossians 1:23)
Be blessed my friend.
Michiah-Imla
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Some true believers may not endure unto the end. This is why the Lord warned:
“he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.” (Matthew 24:13)
He didn’t say, he that truly believes unto the end…
Take heed dear brother!
Endurance in faith is a work of God; John 6 comes to mind. The Cross is a success in every true believer's life. The Parable of the Sower comes to mind as regards the great difference between those who are like good ground into which the seed falls, and those in whom there is no root, among the stones and weeds.
Michiah-Imla
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Amen!
I pray that, in the end, yourself and I (as well as others) prove to be that good ground on which the word of God fell that we may rejoice with the Lord in his kingdom on that day!
By God's grace, Philippians 1.6 is very assuring.... ( @Eternally Grateful has it on his avatar...)
Absolutely. And 1 Peter 1:
"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, He has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, to an inheritance that is imperishable, undefiled, and unfading, kept in heaven for you, who by God’s power are being guarded through faith for a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time." (1 Peter 1:3-5, emphasis added)
It cannot be state any clearer than Peter has done so here.
Grace and peace to all.
Michiah-Imla
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It’s not wise to accept only one set of scriptures at face value while devising ways to discount the face value of other scriptures.
Once Saved Always Saved is a doctrine that only stands with unbalanced scripture adherence.
Once Saved Always Saved is a doctrine that only stands with unbalanced scripture adherence.
Just ask yourself one simple question: "Does the Bible say that eternal life and salvation are the free gifts of God? If they are gifts then that should be enough.
Michiah-Imla
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@Enoch111
That’s faulty logic.
If you were in serious debt due to ignorant and unwise spending habits and I GIFTED you the money to get out of debt and offered you advice on how not to get into debt again and then you turn around and end up in the same debt situation again because you ignored my advice and ended up in financial ruin - Did my GIFT eliminate your free will to return to your own vomit again?
he cant answer simple questions only give speeches
...if it's thought that there is no more consequence of sin. That would be antinomianism, which would be the real fallacy.
But no one here is suggesting that there are no more consequences of sin for those who are in Christ. God disciplines those who are in Christ. What we are proclaiming, though ~ and this is exactly what Paul says ~ is that there is no more condemnation (by God) for sin for those who are in Christ (Romans 8:1). And since there is no more condemnation, our salvation, once given, cannot be lost, because we are kept in it by God, by His power, via the Holy Spirit, who, as Peter says, guards us through faith for a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time (1 Peter 1), and this necessarily means, among other things, aiding us in obedience to the Lord.
Grace and peace to all.
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