Bible alone!

[David in NJ]

That's an ad hominem statement.

Do not take it as such for it is not a ridicule of you at all.
The Holy Spirit invites you to Truth that will save our souls.

Group A
He who corrects a scoffer gets shame for himself,
And he who rebukes a wicked man only harms himself.
Do not correct a scoffer, lest he hate you;

Group B
Rebuke a wise man, and he will love you.
Give instruction to a wise man, and he will be still wiser;
Teach a just man, and he will increase in learning.
The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom,
And the knowledge of the Holy One is understanding.

You and i want to make sure we are both part of Group B

 

[David in NJ]

The application of Scripture is all one needs

Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and dine with him, and he with Me. 21To him who overcomes I will grant to sit with Me on My throne, as I also overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne. 22“He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.”

 

[theefaith]

Types, to a minimum.

False religions have a tendency to "type" themselves into crazy doctrines.

The book of Rev is 99.9% literal with a few minor "types" to give clarity to the literal subject.

No it’s mostly figurative

 

[EloyCraft]

The only problem is , many follow a sensual LOVE and not the LOVE that comes from GOD .
Thus we better know our bibles well , all that JESUS did teach , all that the apostels did teach very well .
Too many are making a sensual love thier god and not the GOD . HIS LOVE is far different
from the love i see many now embracing and callling love .
What kind of love dont correct error . ALL whom GOD loves HE corrects , and Christ corrected and the apostels corrected .
YET todays love says oh dont judge , and worse its now embracing sins . Patterns contrary to both Christ and the apostles .
Yeah i hear this word love being hollered a lot by many and yet their fruits , actions and doctrine prove
they know neither GOD nor LOVE . SO i suggest to all , GET back in that bible and start learning . cause
many leaders , many men , many peoples are now under a false sensual love and a false sensual unity .
Cause any unity that has us yoked with a harlot , its not good . No matter how many good works it can claim .

So many people are living false notions of virtue.
The symbols attached to the gifts of Christ are used to symbolize a false version of them. People lift up anti-feedom, anti-love, anti-compassion the sum of which is anti-christ.

The harlot has charmed almost everyone. She said;

I sit as a queen, I am no widow, and mourning I shall never see.’

She is head of the family.
She has a husband.
She will never be barren.


That is happening these days

She has smeared the meaning of husband's and fathers as head of the family wouldn't you say?

 

[Truther]

No it’s mostly figurative

18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.



I trow not!

 

[theefaith]

And no man comes to the Father except by Him. For there is none other name given among men by which we may be saved

Jn 14:6

 

[theefaith]

None of these scriptures state "Mary brought salvation to her people".

Please post the scripture that confirms your statement of belief - thank you

biblical principle

Jesus Christ is our salvation
In His person so much that Simeon said: I have seen my salvation when he saw the baby Jesus!

Mary brought forth the savior!

 

[David in NJ]

biblical principle

Jesus Christ is our salvation
In His person so much that Simeon said: I have seen my salvation when he saw the baby Jesus!

Mary brought forth the savior!

CORRECT: ONLY Jesus the Christ is our salvation = Acts 4:12
Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”

Your worship of Mary are not biblical principles but are idolatry and a perversion of the Way, the Truth and the LIFE.

 

[Bob Carabbio]

The problem with the “Bible alone”!

Chuckle!!! The "Bible alone" gets in the way of all SORTS of false denominational doctrines if one bothers to actually read it!!!.

JUST IMAGINE how much of the absolute foolishness the Roman Catholic church would have to get rid of, if they took the Bible seriously (even though they supposedly wrote it). that goes for many other denominational groups as well.

There's a Bucket load of creeds, theologies, and general religious foolishness that we could deep-six if we took the Bible seriously.

And the Bible PLUS the Holy Spirit to guide and give wisdom, will take us into all truth.

 

[David in NJ]

Sola Scriptura is TRUTH = if you fight against the Truth you will remain in the same mind as 'Saul of Tarsus' and never become like the Apostle Paul.

 

[theefaith]

CORRECT: ONLY Jesus the Christ is our salvation = Acts 4:12
Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”

Jn 14:6

Your worship of Mary are not biblical principles but are idolatry and a perversion of the Way, the Truth and the LIFE.

I never said to worship Mary

And the birth of our Saviour is one that Mary, herself, with her freewill, said "YES", and delivered salvation for all mankind. Lk 1:38

New creation in Christ 2 cor 5:17
Passed from death to life 2 Tim 1:10
Out of the kingdom of darkness into the kingdom of light 1 pet 2:9
All sins washed away acts 22:16
Washed in Christ’s blood 1 pet 1:2
Member of Christ and His church
1 cor 12:13
Put on Christ gal 3:27
Died with Christ rom 6:3
Risen with Christ col 2:12
Sealed by God in the ark of salvation 1 pet 3:20-21
Sealed with the Holy Spirit eph 1:13

 

[Jim B]

Can you post the scripture verse that would verify "Mary brought salvation to her people"

I am a believer in the principle of sola scriptura, primarily because of the kind of nonsense that some denominations add to it. This glorification/deification of Mary is a prime example. Catholics clearly have a need to create a female deity so they manufacture a woman who is a virgin (as if that's important!), sinless, smarter than her son, and brings salvation to her people. The Biblical Mary was a teenage peasant who, by God's grace, was used by Him to give birth to a son and, along with Joseph, raised Him to become a carpenter (along with His siblings). Her parenting is hardly mentioned in Scripture, except that she lost track of Him for several days, was rebuffed by Him when she wanted to talk to Him, suggested that He make water into wine, and witnessed His crucifixion.

Everything beyond that is manufactured to satisfy a cultural need, as opposed to Biblical truth. If the Catholic church was more in tune with the Bible I would consider their doctrine, but unfortunately they would rather go along with their manufactured myths and strange rituals.

 

[theefaith]

Chuckle!!! The "Bible alone" gets in the way of all SORTS of false denominational doctrines if one bothers to actually read it!!!.

JUST IMAGINE how much of the absolute foolishness the Roman Catholic church would have to get rid of, if they took the Bible seriously (even though they supposedly wrote it). that goes for many other denominational groups as well.

There's a Bucket load of creeds, theologies, and general religious foolishness that we could deep-six if we took the Bible seriously.

And the Bible PLUS the Holy Spirit to guide and give wisdom, will take us into all truth.

I’ve been reading it for 40 years never seen a single Protestant word in it

the church is like a prism
When the sun light hits it beautiful colors everywhere!

the light of truth hits the church and its beautiful!

Christ and His church are one! Acts 9:4 eph 5:32

 

[theefaith]

I am a believer in the principle of sola scriptura, primarily because of the kind of nonsense that some denominations add to it. This glorification/deification of Mary is a prime example. Catholics clearly have a need to create a female deity so they manufacture a woman who is a virgin (as if that's important!), sinless, smarter than her son, and brings salvation to her people. The Biblical Mary was a teenage peasant who, by God's grace, was used by Him to give birth to a son and, along with Joseph, raised Him to become a carpenter (along with His siblings). Her parenting is hardly mentioned in Scripture, except that she lost track of Him for several days, was rebuffed by Him when she wanted to talk to Him, suggested that He make water into wine, and witnessed His crucifixion.

Everything beyond that is manufactured to satisfy a cultural need, as opposed to Biblical truth. If the Catholic church was more in tune with the Bible I would consider their doctrine, but unfortunately they would rather go along with their manufactured myths and strange rituals.

oh contrar pal

And the birth of our Saviour is one that Mary, herself, with her freewill, said "YES", and delivered salvation for all mankind. Lk 1:38

Biblical Mary, mother of God, ever Virgin, sinless, mother of our salvation!

Mother of God Lk 1:43

Immaculate conception (sinless) gen 3:15 enmity or total war none of satans works are found in Mary!
Also Lk 1:28 full of grace lk 1:49 great things plural (immaculate conception of Mary and the miraculous conception of Jesus) Rev12:1 woman clothed with the sun. Immaculate purity

Lk 1:30 found favor with God (the salvation lost by Adam) mother of our salvation Lk 2:30 and cos she consented to our salvation! Lk 1:38

Perpetual Virgin Isa 7:14 matt 1:21
Lk 1:31-34

Spiritual Mother Jn 19:26-27 rev 12:17

Mother of the creator is mother of all creation!

Mother of the Redeemer is the mother of all the redeemed!

Mother of our Savior is the mother of all those who obtain salvation!
Lk 1:30


All generations call me blessed! Lk 1:
Thanksgiving in praise of Mary for bearing our savior! Matt 1:23 And finding our salvation! Lk 1:30


Praise honor veneration and devotion redound to the Glory of God who created Mary immaculate Lk 1:49 and Christ source of all grace! Jn 1:16-17

Praise, honor, veneration, and devotion are not worship, worship requires intent!

Mary all powerful advocate!
Help of Christian’s!

Mary ever virgin, mother of God, is all powerful in her prayers, cos she is God!

Mary’s prayers are all powerful not cos she is God but because her son is God!

and on becoming man He (Jesus) obeyed his own commandments

you might check out the one that says “honor Thy father and mother”

“My hour has not come”

The time set by almighty God for the public ministry of Christ had not come, Jesus Christ still performed the miracle cos his mother interceded, thus a higher law, “honor thy father and mother” if ANYONE else asked it would NOT have been done!
John 2

and cos of her intercession the disciples believed in Him!
Jn 2:11

Is Paul Divine?

Phil 4:13 I can do all things in Christ who strengthens me.

 

[theefaith]

Let us take our helper (advocate) and intercessor the Virgin Mary, Mother of God, so that she, who from the moment of her conception overcame Satan may show her power over these evil sects, in which is revived the contumacious spirit of the demon, together with his unsubdued perfidy and deceit. Let us beseech Michael, the prince of the heavenly angels, who drove out the infernal foe; and Joseph, the spouse of the most holy Virgin, and heavenly patron of the Catholic Church; and the great Apostles, Peter and Paul, the fathers and victorious champions of the Christian faith. By their patronage, and by perseverance in united prayer, we hope that God will mercifully and opportunely succor the human race, which is encompassed by so many dangers.

Gen 3:15 I will put enmities between thee and the woman, and thy seed and her seed: she shall crush thy head, and thou shalt lie in wait for her heel.

Lk 1: 35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

Lk 1:28 Hail Mary, full of grace!

It only by the power of the Holy Spirit thru the immaculate purity of Mary that the virgin-mother brings forth the Holy son of God!

Lk 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

A new song!

Good enough for Angels!
Good enough for the Bible!
Good enough for me!

Hail Mary! Full of grace, the Lord is with thee, blessed art thou among women,
Lk 1:28 blessed is the fruit of thy womb, (Jesus) Lk 1:42 Holy Mary, mother of God, Lk 1:43 pray for us sinners, now,
rev 5:8 and at the hour of our death, Matt 24:13 amen!

It is really God who greeting Mary with the “Hail Mary”!
Lk 1:26 & Lk 1:45

Blessed art thou among all women! Lk 1:28 & Lk 1:45 & Lk 1:48

All generations shall call me blessed!

A song of thanksgiving for bringing our salvation!

 

[David in NJ]

I am a believer in the principle of sola scriptura, primarily because of the kind of nonsense that some denominations add to it. This glorification/deification of Mary is a prime example. Catholics clearly have a need to create a female deity so they manufacture a woman who is a virgin (as if that's important!), sinless, smarter than her son, and brings salvation to her people. The Biblical Mary was a teenage peasant who, by God's grace, was used by Him to give birth to a son and, along with Joseph, raised Him to become a carpenter (along with His siblings). Her parenting is hardly mentioned in Scripture, except that she lost track of Him for several days, was rebuffed by Him when she wanted to talk to Him, suggested that He make water into wine, and witnessed His crucifixion.

Everything beyond that is manufactured to satisfy a cultural need, as opposed to Biblical truth. If the Catholic church was more in tune with the Bible I would consider their doctrine, but unfortunately they would rather go along with their manufactured myths and strange rituals.

RCC are carnal false teachers, therefore they appeal to the carnal mind = thus for Mary to have perpetual virginity is a false 'holiness' that appeals to paganistic teachings.

Mary lost her virginity when Jesus, as a baby, burst thru her vaginal wall - game over.
She lost her 'virginity' a second time when God Ordained husband, Joseph, penetrated her in the marriage bed = according to the Will of God.

 

[Jim B]

RCC are carnal false teachers, therefore they appeal to the carnal mind = thus for Mary to have perpetual virginity is a false 'holiness' that appeals to paganistic teachings.

Mary lost her virginity when Jesus, as a baby, burst thru her vaginal wall - game over.
She lost her 'virginity' a second time when God Ordained husband, Joseph, penetrated her in the marriage bed = according to the Will of God.

Um, not quite. A woman loses her virginity when she has intercourse for the first time, not when she gives birth.

I agree with your first statement: RCC are carnal false teachers, therefore they appeal to the carnal mind = thus for Mary to have perpetual virginity is a false 'holiness' that appeals to paganistic teachings.

 

[David in NJ]

I never said to worship Mary

And the birth of our Saviour is one that Mary, herself, with her freewill, said "YES", and delivered salvation for all mankind. Lk 1:38

New creation in Christ 2 cor 5:17
Passed from death to life 2 Tim 1:10
Out of the kingdom of darkness into the kingdom of light 1 pet 2:9
All sins washed away acts 22:16
Washed in Christ’s blood 1 pet 1:2
Member of Christ and His church
1 cor 12:13
Put on Christ gal 3:27
Died with Christ rom 6:3
Risen with Christ col 2:12
Sealed by God in the ark of salvation 1 pet 3:20-21
Sealed with the Holy Spirit eph 1:13

God prepared the body for His Son = not Mary = Hebrews 10:5-10
Mary submitted unto God and she was greatly blessed by her obedience. = Luke 1:26-38
Mary gave birth to the body God had prepared for Himself. = Hebrews 10:5-10
Mary is not a virgin.
Mary is no longer a woman.

 

[Jim B]

It is astonishing to me that the Catholic church has so distorted the truths of the Bible to come up with robotic, unScriptural repetition such as saying the "Hail Mary" chant, among other non-Biblical nonsense. In fact, I would even categorize it as being as far from truths of the New Covenant as Judaism is.

The categorization of Mary as "Queen of Heaven and Earth" is blasphemy. In addition, the non-Biblical offices of the clergy, the ornate theatrical rituals (reminiscent of the OT priesthood), the confession of sins to a "father" who has the power to absolve the sinner of wrongdoing by repetition of "Hail Marys", and perhaps worst of all, claiming that the Catholic denomination is "the one true church" border on religious obscenity.

Sola scriptura!

 

[Jim B]

God prepared the body for His Son = not Mary = Hebrews 10:5-10
Mary submitted unto God and she was greatly blessed by her obedience. = Luke 1:26-38
Mary gave birth to the body God had prepared for Himself. = Hebrews 10:5-10
Mary is not a virgin.
Mary is no longer a woman.

I agree with everything you wrote except for the last sentence. Mary is dead; her corpse might be a woman depending on your definition.